Mace asked Grusch directly if the government has made contact with non-human intelligence. Grusch said he could discuss in a closed session.

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IMO, each one of these witnesses have been incredibly impressive. We could not have asked for three better officials to kick these hearings off…

David Grusch is insanely credible.

Super comfortable and confident in his answers.

I'm beyond impressed.

— ᴋʟᴀᵾs (@tinyklaus) July 26, 2023

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I am not saying one way or the other, but being confident in answers does not automatically = credible.

Many liars are confident in their lies. Again, not saying he is lying.

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True, but his credibility in this instance is also based on the clearance and positions he's held, along with the many credible officials who have come forward to vouch for him and corroborate his info.

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IMO, each one of these witnesses have been incredibly impressive. We could not have asked for three better officials to kick these hearings off…

David Grusch is insanely credible.

Super comfortable and confident in his answers.

I'm beyond impressed.

— ᴋʟᴀᵾs (@tinyklaus) July 26, 2023

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I am not saying one way or the other, but being confident in answers does not automatically = credible.

Many liars are confident in their lies. Again, not saying he is lying.

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Agreed. Grusch has been impressive. Honestly he seems far better to me here than in his interview. But as I said earlier in this thread with any of the other UFO experts the idea that they "come off as credible" itself doesn't really mean anything, the very best manipulators and criminals and liars are extremely convincing. In the event that he's lying (which I don't think he is) it wouldn't be like catching your teenager trying to sneak out of the house.

I am NOT saying I think that about Grusch, just that it's always best to focus on the presented facts and statements, not on how comfortable someone looks. Unfortunately, the lack of any solid data to study over all these decades has reduced most people to simply trying to determine what and who sounds believable. We've got to get past that.

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Grusch said he could discuss in a closed session.

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He claims it's classified and he would be prosecuted for revealing the information in an open setting. He's not the only witness. Frankly, Fravor and Graves have been the most interesting witnesses today.

Graves described the object as a "dark gray cube inside a clear sphere". Said that another pilot flew within 50 feet of it.

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Graves described the object as a "dark gray cube inside a clear sphere". Said that another pilot flew within 50 feet of it.

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The varying descriptions is also pretty fascinating to me. Do we have multiple groups of ETs coming here?

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Graves described the object as a "dark gray cube inside a clear sphere". Said that another pilot flew within 50 feet of it.

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The varying descriptions is also pretty fascinating to me. Do we have multiple groups of ETs coming here?

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The variety in size and form of human aircraft is practically unlimited, and we're a single species. Who's to say that each ET/NHI only uses 1 design?

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Just gotta say, I love Commander Fravor.

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He's been fantastic.

That's it. Very interesting hearing, I would recommend everyone watch later if able. The emphasis was clearly on the national security and public safety consequences of UAP encounters, as well as the claims of reprisals against military and commercial pilots for reporting incidents. We got more details from both Graves and Fravor about the incidents they reported, including that multiple aircraft and ship borne systems tracked the objects. The released Tic Tac and Gimbal videos are not the only footage. Need to see the rest.

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Graves described the object as a "dark gray cube inside a clear sphere". Said that another pilot flew within 50 feet of it.

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The varying descriptions is also pretty fascinating to me. Do we have multiple groups of ETs coming here?

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The variety in size and form of human aircraft is practically unlimited, and we're a single species. Who's to say that each ET/NHI only uses 1 design?

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True, there's nothing unreasonable about that, but I do think that the wide variety of descriptions hurts some. They're harmless but they're also malevolent, they're short but they're also tall, their craft are drone sized but they're also football field sized, they're cubes within spheres but they're also disc shaped, and triangle shaped, and tic-tac shaped, etc.

It's like Grand Central Station around here apparently, right out of MiB. I can't quite reconcile the conflicting idea that life is common everywhere and we're just some random example of it but at the same time we seem to be absolutely swarmed with interest.

I don't know, it WAS interesting and I'll continue to follow it all, but I'm as confident as ever we'll never have a smoking gun shock-the-world type disclosure moment. I guess we'll see.

Great first hearing. Great first step. It definitely pierced the mainstream, as I'm seeing clips, quotes, and excerpts all over my social media feeds, and it will no doubt make all the major news stations as well. If anything, it's so incredibly satisfying to see so many notable names, on both sides of the isle, taking this subject seriously, and asking genuinely thoughtful questions.

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Foxx asking Grusch directly about recovered craft and bodies. She's quoting back AARO's assertion that they have not found any evidence of that. She's pushing for transparency, also citing the Chinese spy balloon incident.

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I have a buddy with "3 letter organization" connections that has told me some crazy **** about the Chinese balloon incident.

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Care to share?

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Maybe in a closed door session /badjoke


No, I'm not gonna take even a tiny chance of him losing his clearance by repeating what he told me on a message board.

I guess the most I'll say is that other than is being too slow to detect what was going on, our government handled it exactly like they needed to…. both behind closed doors, and in public.

Love seeing the fire and determination here. That, and never in a million years could I have imagined a press conference with these kinds of questions being asked and answers being given…

Congress won’t stop, they all now know this is real and also that laws are being broken.

The core of the secrecy is dead ☠️ #UFOTwitter #UAPTwitter #EndUAPSecrecy pic.twitter.com/v7oY7zlfrx

— Adam Goldsack (@AdamGoldsack) July 26, 2023

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Care to share?

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Maybe in a closed door session /badjoke


No, I'm not gonna take even a tiny chance of him losing his clearance by repeating what he told me on a message board.

I guess the most I'll say is that other than is being too slow to detect what was going on, our government handled it exactly like they needed to…. both behind closed doors, and in public.

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Holy ***** Grusch posts on TexAgs!

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Love seeing the fire and determination here. That, and never in a million years could I have imagined a press conference with these kinds of questions being asked and answers being given…

Congress won’t stop, they all now know this is real and also that laws are being broken.

The core of the secrecy is dead ☠️ #UFOTwitter #UAPTwitter #EndUAPSecrecy pic.twitter.com/v7oY7zlfrx

— Adam Goldsack (@AdamGoldsack) July 26, 2023

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Burchett sounds crazy sometimes. He's dropping a lot of hokey sound bites that are frankly counterproductive. More Luna and Mace, please.

It really does feel like we're right on the cusp of something huge. If we don't get any goods on this, one way or the other, going to be a massive blue balls session.

Agreed.

(Now, prepare for a dozen posts telling you how it's going be blue balls for eternity.)

And that's perfectly sane/normal. I don't blame you at all. I'm more calling out the people who feel the need to tell us over and over and over and over again.

Almost a million views on BBC. https://t.co/lgl9S3Zdjh

— ᴋʟᴀᵾs (@tinyklaus) July 26, 2023

So now that high ranking former military/intelligence official has claimed we have "exotic..not of this planet materials and vehicles".....where do we go from here?

I think 3 very important questions need to be asked and answered. Hopefully honestly.

Who initiated the original lie about Roswell?

Who has been responsible for its maintenance?

Why?

Here is a link to today's congressional hearing:

Congressional hearing on UFOs just ended. Serious, diligent. Absolutely stunning testimony. Hard to walk away from this thinking anything other than there’s something profound happening on our planet that we do not understand.

— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) July 26, 2023

A former Air Force intelligence officer testifying before Congress said the U.S. is concealing a longstanding program that retrieves unidentified flying objects. The Pentagon has denied his claims.

Here’s what you missed in the hearing. pic.twitter.com/dZETVxCxLC

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 26, 2023

.@RepNancyMace asks about extraterrestrials: "If you believe we have crashed craft...do we have the bodies of the pilots...?"

David Grusch: "As I've stated...biologics came with some of these recoveries."

Mace: "Were they Human or non-human?"

Grusch: "Non-human." pic.twitter.com/TJVbIRp4jw

— CSPAN (@cspan) July 26, 2023

What is disclosure? Seriously.

Here we are.

Disclosure is primarily a process, and less an event. I've said this since shortly after sign-up (Spring 1999, Blocker computer lab).

Extra-terrestrial entities exist, exactly like I've stated here for 24 years.

Former Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves reveals chilling details on the existence of UFOs:

“These objects were staying completely stationary in Category 4 hurricane winds. These same objects would then accelerate to supersonic speeds.” pic.twitter.com/oEkLQHckof

— Pop Crave (@PopCrave) July 26, 2023

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Care to share?

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Maybe in a closed door session /badjoke


No, I'm not gonna take even a tiny chance of him losing his clearance by repeating what he told me on a message board.

I guess the most I'll say is that other than is being too slow to detect what was going on, our government handled it exactly like they needed to…. both behind closed doors, and in public.

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Balloon was not actually there and it was a UAP they couldn't risk taking down over somewhere that a lot of people could take pictures and videos.....When the time came to shoot it down, the balloon was staged?

Officer David Grush declares under oath for the first time that the US government is in possession of UFOs and non-human bodies. pic.twitter.com/ltLk6caSQo

— Anonymous (@YourAnonOne) July 26, 2023

*BREAKING*

Whistleblower David Grusch tells Congress under oath that non-human bodies have been recovered from crashed UFOs. https://t.co/26UifllVlZ

— OutKick (@Outkick) July 26, 2023

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Agreed.

(Now, prepare for a dozen posts telling you how it's going be blue balls for eternity.)

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Grusch appears willing to discuss behind closed doors with anyone with sufficient clearance. The more he does then things will begin to leak. Which will hopefully force things with those controlling access to the proof.

I still can't shake this feeling the past 4-5 years is all a big ruse but it's certainly becoming harder to keep my marker there.