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This is apparently a huge story right now, and in addition to the obvious entertainment value, may be an alien sighting. This lady seems convinced that she was sitting next to a reptilian shapeshifter on an AA flight out of DFW. Imagine my astonishment when I searched TexAgs at the behest of the missus and didn't find a single reference anywhere. This seems like a good place.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/american-airlines-passenger-meltdown-b2372287.html



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Wood? Could be fun.
You're not the only one. Many men around the internet have commented on her spot on the Crazy/Hot matrix.
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Yeah, it was funny because I'm like okay Karen get tf off the plane, but then when she says that man isn't real, she got a lot less annoying.

Also this:

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G Martin 87 said:

This is apparently a huge story right now, and in addition to the obvious entertainment value, may be an alien sighting. This lady seems convinced that she was sitting next to a reptilian shapeshifter on an AA flight out of DFW. Imagine my astonishment when I searched TexAgs at the behest of the missus and didn't find a single reference anywhere. This seems like a good place.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/american-airlines-passenger-meltdown-b2372287.html






What's weird is I haven't seen that lady pop up in any follow up reporting. Anyone catch anything?
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Alright, I just watched every minute of this hour and a half long video with Ross posted last night (in addition to, as I've said, watching some of his others recently.)




The guy presents himself very well, but that in itself means nothing. He may be completely honest and well-intentioned, that's certainly possible, but my point is that the best scam artists are by definition "convincing". It's the reason so many killers like Bundy and Dahmer were said to be so charming and likeable.

But anyway..

He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.

And like I said before, this whole business of studying Pentagon pilot videos to determine what's going on is made completely pointless by the fact that the specific claims are that we have multiple intact and damaged craft, plus bodies in our hands, plus, as Ross reminds us in this video, we've even entered into agreements with these beings.

Multiple times now he has stated unequivocally that at least one craft is too big to move, in a country outside the U.S, and that we've simply built a building over it to cover it up. He admits he knows a lot more about it, including the location, but can't say.



I just don't even understand the point of making these semi-statements unless it's all bull*****

What is the point of Grusch even doing the interview at all if he can only give evidence to Congress in private? What is the point of Ross going on show after show to basically say "I know specific things that would blow people's minds and cause panic, but I can't tell you what they are"? Don't they know that only frustrates and torments the very people they claim to represent?

These people who claim to be helping all the believers in reality are just trolling them, whether intended or not.

I mean, Ross is there live on video, just say "Yeah, I know there's a stadium sized craft under a building on this highway outside Milan, Italy that can't be moved" and within hours 2 million followers and investigators and media people would have it surrounded and this would all be over. But no, this man who is determined to see disclosure happen won't do it himself.

Instead, it's an endless breadcrumb trail of "we know stuff but we can't tell you", "stuff would have come out already except for this unlucky event", "stuff probably will be disclosed now but only to other select people behind closed doors that the public won't know about so don't get your hopes up", etc. Also, towards the end there was the unintended comedy of Ross telling the host that in his opinion it's optimistic for hearings to happen in July, more likely September, followed a few minutes later during the wrap-up of the host reminding everyone that Ross' UFO book will be re-issued in September.


Oh well, we'll see. I'm NOT outright calling them liars but the weak spots are constant and it's always "wait til next year!" like Charlie Brown and his baseball team.


Again, like the point I made on another recent post, in spite of the radically different forms they take, the bottom line is that almost all people seem to require that in their worldview they're living in a special time in which something incredible is always on the horizon.

Doomsayers are always saying the end of the world is at hand. Just in my lifetime it was "Reagan will kill us all any day!", then the Gulf War, then Y2K, then 2012, now the Russia thing. Preppers just know it's any day now. "Just look around, the world has never been more dangerous!"

Nature worshippers are obsessed that the Earth itself will end us in retaliation by 1990. Or maybe 2000. Or maybe 2008. Or maybe 2020. Or maybe some other year right around the corner. "Just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

Religious people are convinced that the rapture is coming any day now, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And UFO enthusiasts are convinced that we're about to enter a whole new phase of reality interacting with alien creatures and interdimensional travel and anti-gravity technology, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And some of these people on show after show will swear they can tell you what and where it is, but maybe some other time, here's the link to my podcast and bookstore.






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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

TCTTS said:




I know where I'm placing my bet.
Well yeah, we have a 4-star admiral who thinks he's a woman, and just had a bald transgender top nuclear waste official stealing clothes from airport luggage just to name two we know about.
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Joes said:

Alright, I just watched every minute of this hour and a half long video with Ross posted last night (in addition to, as I've said, watching some of his others recently.)




The guy presents himself very well, but that in itself means nothing. He may be completely honest and well-intentioned, that's certainly possible, but my point is that the best scam artists are by definition "convincing". It's the reason so many killers like Bundy and Dahmer were said to be so charming and likeable.

But anyway..

He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.

And like I said before, this whole business of studying Pentagon pilot videos to determine what's going on is made completely pointless by the fact that the specific claims are that we have multiple intact and damaged craft, plus bodies in our hands, plus, as Ross reminds us in this video, we've even entered into agreements with these beings.

Multiple times now he has stated unequivocally that at least one craft is too big to move, in a country outside the U.S, and that we've simply built a building over it to cover it up. He admits he knows a lot more about it, including the location, but can't say.



I just don't even understand the point of making these semi-statements unless it's all bull*****

What is the point of Grusch even doing the interview at all if he can only give evidence to Congress in private? What is the point of Ross going on show after show to basically say "I know specific things that would blow people's minds and cause panic, but I can't tell you what they are"? Don't they know that only frustrates and torments the very people they claim to represent?

These people who claim to be helping all the believers in reality are just trolling them, whether intended or not.

I mean, Ross is there live on video, just say "Yeah, I know there's a stadium sized craft under a building on this highway outside Milan, Italy that can't be moved" and within hours 2 million followers and investigators and media people would have it surrounded and this would all be over. But no, this man who is determined to see disclosure happen won't do it himself.

Instead, it's an endless breadcrumb trail of "we know stuff but we can't tell you", "stuff would have come out already except for this unlucky event", "stuff probably will be disclosed now but only to other select people behind closed doors that the public won't know about so don't get your hopes up", etc. Also, towards the end there was the unintended comedy of Ross telling the host that in his opinion it's optimistic for hearings to happen in July, more likely September, followed a few minutes later during the wrap-up of the host reminding everyone that Ross' UFO book will be re-issued in September.


Oh well, we'll see. I'm NOT outright calling them liars but the weak spots are constant and it's always "wait til next year!" like Charlie Brown and his baseball team.


Again, like the point I made on another recent post, in spite of the radically different forms they take, the bottom line is that almost all people seem to require that in their worldview they're living in a special time in which something incredible is always on the horizon.

Doomsayers are always saying the end of the world is at hand. Just in my lifetime it was "Reagan will kill us all any day!", then the Gulf War, then Y2K, then 2012, now the Russia thing. Preppers just know it's any day now. "Just look around, the world has never been more dangerous!"

Nature worshippers are obsessed that the Earth itself will end us in retaliation by 1990. Or maybe 2000. Or maybe 2008. Or maybe 2020. Or maybe some other year right around the corner. "Just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

Religious people are convinced that the rapture is coming any day now, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And UFO enthusiasts are convinced that we're about to enter a whole new phase of reality interacting with alien creatures and interdimensional travel and anti-gravity technology, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And some of these people on show after show will swear they can tell you what and where it is, but maybe some other time, here's the link to my podcast and bookstore.







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He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.
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Great post, thanks for taking the time.
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Joes said:

Alright, I just watched every minute of this hour and a half long video with Ross posted last night (in addition to, as I've said, watching some of his others recently.)




The guy presents himself very well, but that in itself means nothing. He may be completely honest and well-intentioned, that's certainly possible, but my point is that the best scam artists are by definition "convincing". It's the reason so many killers like Bundy and Dahmer were said to be so charming and likeable.

But anyway..

He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.

And like I said before, this whole business of studying Pentagon pilot videos to determine what's going on is made completely pointless by the fact that the specific claims are that we have multiple intact and damaged craft, plus bodies in our hands, plus, as Ross reminds us in this video, we've even entered into agreements with these beings.

Multiple times now he has stated unequivocally that at least one craft is too big to move, in a country outside the U.S, and that we've simply built a building over it to cover it up. He admits he knows a lot more about it, including the location, but can't say.



I just don't even understand the point of making these semi-statements unless it's all bull*****

What is the point of Grusch even doing the interview at all if he can only give evidence to Congress in private? What is the point of Ross going on show after show to basically say "I know specific things that would blow people's minds and cause panic, but I can't tell you what they are"? Don't they know that only frustrates and torments the very people they claim to represent?

These people who claim to be helping all the believers in reality are just trolling them, whether intended or not.

I mean, Ross is there live on video, just say "Yeah, I know there's a stadium sized craft under a building on this highway outside Milan, Italy that can't be moved" and within hours 2 million followers and investigators and media people would have it surrounded and this would all be over. But no, this man who is determined to see disclosure happen won't do it himself.

Instead, it's an endless breadcrumb trail of "we know stuff but we can't tell you", "stuff would have come out already except for this unlucky event", "stuff probably will be disclosed now but only to other select people behind closed doors that the public won't know about so don't get your hopes up", etc. Also, towards the end there was the unintended comedy of Ross telling the host that in his opinion it's optimistic for hearings to happen in July, more likely September, followed a few minutes later during the wrap-up of the host reminding everyone that Ross' UFO book will be re-issued in September.


Oh well, we'll see. I'm NOT outright calling them liars but the weak spots are constant and it's always "wait til next year!" like Charlie Brown and his baseball team.


Again, like the point I made on another recent post, in spite of the radically different forms they take, the bottom line is that almost all people seem to require that in their worldview they're living in a special time in which something incredible is always on the horizon.

Doomsayers are always saying the end of the world is at hand. Just in my lifetime it was "Reagan will kill us all any day!", then the Gulf War, then Y2K, then 2012, now the Russia thing. Preppers just know it's any day now. "Just look around, the world has never been more dangerous!"

Nature worshippers are obsessed that the Earth itself will end us in retaliation by 1990. Or maybe 2000. Or maybe 2008. Or maybe 2020. Or maybe some other year right around the corner. "Just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

Religious people are convinced that the rapture is coming any day now, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And UFO enthusiasts are convinced that we're about to enter a whole new phase of reality interacting with alien creatures and interdimensional travel and anti-gravity technology, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And some of these people on show after show will swear they can tell you what and where it is, but maybe some other time, here's the link to my podcast and bookstore.

First of all, there is absolutely nothing that even remotely points to Coulthart being a "scam artist." His credentials are real/verified, his contacts are real/verified, and he has proven his integrity time and again. Not to mention, he's a highly respected 60 Minutes Australia journalist, one who simply started looking into the subject of UAP, with the intent to debunk it, only to discover there was a lot more there that he couldn't outright dismiss. He then used his clout and contacts to continue digging, and now here we are.

Tell me, why, exactly, is Coulthart making the claims these "completely pointless" or "all bullsh*t"? You simply declared as much without any reasoning whatsoever. When it's apparent he's not only trying to raise awareness amongst the general public, but more importantly, attempting to get the powers-that-be to take this subject more seriously. While it sounds like you're just boxing him into some arbitrary scenario where he's only allowed to make claims that come with immediate proof that satisfy you.

Except that's not at all the point.

It's a process, not some exercise meant to solely and immediately appease people on message boards.

The primary point of Coulthart's claims, and the point of him helping Grusch come forward, is to get the attention of the people who can actually do something about this, i.e. the Congress and the Senate.

And guess what?

It worked.

As a *direct* result of Coulthart's bonafides, and his interview with Grusch, Congress is now holding a hearing at the end of this month to question Grusch and others, with the Senate then doing the same in the fall.

And isn't that *exactly* what we want?

We certainly know it's what Grusch wants, because he's said as much time again. He WANTS the powers-that-be to look into this. He WANTS them to try and call his bluff. He's *literally* saying as much. He's not hiding or backing down. He WANTS his claims investigated. Which is why this whole, dubious, Negative Nancy schtick you've got going on makes zero sense. If Grusch is telling the truth, the world changes for forever. If he's lying, he goes to prison. It's that simple. He's put himself on that line, and yet all you can do is call bullsh*t? That makes absolutely no sense, and tells me you're not approaching this with an actual desire for truth, but rather a desire for the thing you want to happen to be true (i.e. these guys all being hacks).

Also, do you *really* think Coulthart is somehow dictating when these hearings are? Not only do we know for a fact that one is happening at the end of the month, and we know for a fact that there are others to follow, it's just asinine to believe that this is all some coordinated effort - that our government is somehow in on - to help Australian journalist Ross Coulthart sell the new paperback edition of his book. In your mind it's either that, or the most hilariously elaborate Nathan for You episode ever…



Like, really? These are the straws you're grasping at?

You can roll your eyes all you want, but for me at least, I'm simply reacting to the unprecedented series of events that are happening in front of my face; the unprecedented language being put into the Intelligence Authorization Act, the unprecedented number of credible officials and pilots coming forward, the unprecedented seriousness with which this subject is suddenly being treated in general, etc. I've agreed time and again that this could all just be our tech, or a psyop, or whatever. Whatever it is, though, something unprecedented *is* happening, whether you believe it or not. It's just a matter of where we discover its origins. Regardless, that you can so easily dismiss all of it says more about what your goal here is than anyone else's.
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He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.


This isn't something Coulthart just pulled out of his ass. There's *some* actual merit there, that might very well go deeper...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-campaign-chief-john-podesta-s-interest-ufos-out-world-n674711
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Rubio: It's either, we have alien spacecraft and the biggest story in human history ..... or we have people in really important positions of government that are crazy.
I think I would have explained it differently. Cracks me up.
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What in the world?
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

G Martin 87 said:

This is apparently a huge story right now, and in addition to the obvious entertainment value, may be an alien sighting. This lady seems convinced that she was sitting next to a reptilian shapeshifter on an AA flight out of DFW. Imagine my astonishment when I searched TexAgs at the behest of the missus and didn't find a single reference anywhere. This seems like a good place.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/american-airlines-passenger-meltdown-b2372287.html






What's weird is I haven't seen that lady pop up in any follow up reporting. Anyone catch anything?

That's been the craziest part. The internet obviously usually IDs someone like this within a matter of hours. Yet this happened over a week ago and nothing. This woman has disappeared off the face of the earth. No leads, no follow ups, no name, nada. Personally, I think she's just someone with mental issues, or was on drugs, but the no-ID part *is* suspicious. Especially given how big this story is on social media and how much it's already been memed to death.
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I've only seen memes about it, so this is the first Im seeing of this story. That's wild.

She thought the guy was a shapeshifter?
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Basically, yeah.

Again, I'd be shocked to discover she didn't either have either a mental or drug-induced breakdown, and hopefully she's at some rehab center now or holed up with family.

Also, that dude that comments on the guy blinking sideways straight up admitted he was making the story up, and wanted to see how much traction it could get, so I don't know why people keep running with that part at all.
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Again, I'd be shocked to discover she didn't either have either a mental or drug-induced breakdown

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And now this. Things are really starting to snowball...



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Interesting. I don't know much about the subject...is there a docu / series that covers this well? When I think of UFO stuff, I think Spyderman/bigfoot/loch ness/Redstone, but there seem to be legitimate stuff out there.
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Fims of James Fox, especially The Phenomenon

Ron James, "Accidental Truth-UFO Revelations."
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Start with UFOs: Investigating the Unknown, a four-part documentary-series released earlier this year from National Geographic, on Hulu.

It's an incredible primer, extremely well done, and features serious journalists/investigators, notable government officials, etc. It's the complete opposite of the typical Ancient Aliens crap.
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Thanks! I'll check it out and yeah Ancient Aliens was kinda what I thought about it.


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Can't believe I'm just now finding this thread

TCTTS, thank you for starting this and genuinely engaging everyone, both fellow believers and those who come with skepticism/criticism.

I would consider myself a fellow traveler when it comes to UAPs. Totally in on this thread

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Redstone said:

Fims of James Fox, especially The Phenomenon

Ron James, "Accidental Truth-UFO Revelations."

I second The Phenomenon. It is a great film that really lays out a timeline of UFOs/UAPs from the end of WWII up to today
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Michael Cera Palin said:

Can't believe I'm just now finding this thread

TCTTS, thank you for starting this and genuinely engaging everyone, both fellow believers and those who come with skepticism/criticism.

I would consider myself a fellow traveler when it comes to UAPs. Totally in on this thread




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Glad you found it. I've provided quite high-quality and detailed content across a multitude of threads, yet do plan to concentrate a decent portion of material here.
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It really does feel like this is starting to come to a head. Senators, Congressmen, and now a Gang of 8 member - many of whom should be in-the-know, to the highest degree - are becoming increasingly pissed that they're not. Things are leaking/coming forward via Grusch and the like, and these people had no idea this kind of stuff was being hidden from them. So now the question is, can those guarding the secrets stand up to this level of scrutiny/pressure, when they've never had to before, in 70+ years? Does the damn break - or - or does the confuscation persist, and win out in the end?

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To all my debunker friends, there ISN't a conspiracy theory where:

Experienced pilots have lied about near misses, multiple sensor data from our multimillion dollar equipment has been 'manipulated' by the same people that have 'nefariously convinced' congress UAP are real. Also, current and former intel community officials, who have all then 'conspired', under penalty of perjury, by lying to the members of the senate intelligence committee, who then wrote specific 'nonsense language', which then unanimously passed the intel committee… that would be, absolutely, a wild conspiracy theory.

Occam's razor indicates that the credible witnesses are NOT lying to congress and there isn't a 'conspiracy' where congress was 'tricked' into passing legislation about UAP during an election year.

In other words, you're just trading out one conspiracy theory for another. And somehow, of the two, the "aliens" one makes more sense.
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I just want to know what happened to the lady on the plane that saw that reptilian skinwalker shapeshifter mother****er. It wasn't real, and she hasn't been seen since.

3 more people have fled plane cabins i saw recently
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Sounds familiar…

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Thanks for this. As I've said multiple times on this thread, this story isn't being driven by UFO aficionados trying to eke out a meager living selling conspiracy theories on book signing junkets anymore. Now it's mainstream media, Congress, elected officials from other countries, and public whistleblowers like Grusch saying "there is actually something worth investigating and the details are being deliberately and illegally withheld." Whatever else we believe or don't believe about UFOs/UAPs is, frankly, beside the point.
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TCTTS said:

Joes said:

Alright, I just watched every minute of this hour and a half long video with Ross posted last night (in addition to, as I've said, watching some of his others recently.)




The guy presents himself very well, but that in itself means nothing. He may be completely honest and well-intentioned, that's certainly possible, but my point is that the best scam artists are by definition "convincing". It's the reason so many killers like Bundy and Dahmer were said to be so charming and likeable.

But anyway..

He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.

And like I said before, this whole business of studying Pentagon pilot videos to determine what's going on is made completely pointless by the fact that the specific claims are that we have multiple intact and damaged craft, plus bodies in our hands, plus, as Ross reminds us in this video, we've even entered into agreements with these beings.

Multiple times now he has stated unequivocally that at least one craft is too big to move, in a country outside the U.S, and that we've simply built a building over it to cover it up. He admits he knows a lot more about it, including the location, but can't say.



I just don't even understand the point of making these semi-statements unless it's all bull*****

What is the point of Grusch even doing the interview at all if he can only give evidence to Congress in private? What is the point of Ross going on show after show to basically say "I know specific things that would blow people's minds and cause panic, but I can't tell you what they are"? Don't they know that only frustrates and torments the very people they claim to represent?

These people who claim to be helping all the believers in reality are just trolling them, whether intended or not.

I mean, Ross is there live on video, just say "Yeah, I know there's a stadium sized craft under a building on this highway outside Milan, Italy that can't be moved" and within hours 2 million followers and investigators and media people would have it surrounded and this would all be over. But no, this man who is determined to see disclosure happen won't do it himself.

Instead, it's an endless breadcrumb trail of "we know stuff but we can't tell you", "stuff would have come out already except for this unlucky event", "stuff probably will be disclosed now but only to other select people behind closed doors that the public won't know about so don't get your hopes up", etc. Also, towards the end there was the unintended comedy of Ross telling the host that in his opinion it's optimistic for hearings to happen in July, more likely September, followed a few minutes later during the wrap-up of the host reminding everyone that Ross' UFO book will be re-issued in September.


Oh well, we'll see. I'm NOT outright calling them liars but the weak spots are constant and it's always "wait til next year!" like Charlie Brown and his baseball team.


Again, like the point I made on another recent post, in spite of the radically different forms they take, the bottom line is that almost all people seem to require that in their worldview they're living in a special time in which something incredible is always on the horizon.

Doomsayers are always saying the end of the world is at hand. Just in my lifetime it was "Reagan will kill us all any day!", then the Gulf War, then Y2K, then 2012, now the Russia thing. Preppers just know it's any day now. "Just look around, the world has never been more dangerous!"

Nature worshippers are obsessed that the Earth itself will end us in retaliation by 1990. Or maybe 2000. Or maybe 2008. Or maybe 2020. Or maybe some other year right around the corner. "Just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

Religious people are convinced that the rapture is coming any day now, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And UFO enthusiasts are convinced that we're about to enter a whole new phase of reality interacting with alien creatures and interdimensional travel and anti-gravity technology, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"

And some of these people on show after show will swear they can tell you what and where it is, but maybe some other time, here's the link to my podcast and bookstore.

First of all, there is absolutely nothing that even remotely points to Coulthart being a "scam artist." His credentials are real/verified, his contacts are real/verified, and he has proven his integrity time and again. Not to mention, he's a highly respected 60 Minutes Australia journalist, one who simply started looking into the subject of UAP, with the intent to debunk it, only to discover there was a lot more there that he couldn't outright dismiss. He then used his clout and contacts to continue digging, and now here we are.

Tell me, why, exactly, is Coulthart making the claims these "completely pointless" or "all bullsh*t"? You simply declared as much without any reasoning whatsoever. When it's apparent he's not only trying to raise awareness amongst the general public, but more importantly, attempting to get the powers-that-be to take this subject more seriously. While it sounds like you're just boxing him into some arbitrary scenario where he's only allowed to make claims that come with immediate proof that satisfy you.

Except that's not at all the point.

It's a process, not some exercise meant to solely and immediately appease people on message boards.

The primary point of Coulthart's claims, and the point of him helping Grusch come forward, is to get the attention of the people who can actually do something about this, i.e. the Congress and the Senate.

And guess what?

It worked.

As a *direct* result of Coulthart's bonafides, and his interview with Grusch, Congress is now holding a hearing at the end of this month to question Grusch and others, with the Senate then doing the same in the fall.

And isn't that *exactly* what we want?

We certainly know it's what Grusch wants, because he's said as much time again. He WANTS the powers-that-be to look into this. He WANTS them to try and call his bluff. He's *literally* saying as much. He's not hiding or backing down. He WANTS his claims investigated. Which is why this whole, dubious, Negative Nancy schtick you've got going on makes zero sense. If Grusch is telling the truth, the world changes for forever. If he's lying, he goes to prison. It's that simple. He's put himself on that line, and yet all you can do is call bullsh*t? That makes absolutely no sense, and tells me you're not approaching this with an actual desire for truth, but rather a desire for the thing you want to happen to be true (i.e. these guys all being hacks).

Also, do you *really* think Coulthart is somehow dictating when these hearings are? Not only do we know for a fact that one is happening at the end of the month, and we know for a fact that there are others to follow, it's just asinine to believe that this is all some coordinated effort - that our government is somehow in on - to help Australian journalist Ross Coulthart sell the new paperback edition of his book. In your mind it's either that, or the most hilariously elaborate Nathan for You episode ever…



Like, really? These are the straws you're grasping at?

You can roll your eyes all you want, but for me at least, I'm simply reacting to the unprecedented series of events that are happening in front of my face; the unprecedented language being put into the Intelligence Authorization Act, the unprecedented number of credible officials and pilots coming forward, the unprecedented seriousness with which this subject is suddenly being treated in general, etc. I've agreed time and again that this could all just be our tech, or a psyop, or whatever. Whatever it is, though, something unprecedented *is* happening, whether you believe it or not. It's just a matter of where we discover its origins. Regardless, that you can so easily dismiss all of it says more about what your goal here is than anyone else's.
I specifically said he may be entirely honest and well intentioned and also later emphasized I'm NOT calling him a liar. All I said was that the way he presents himself alone does not make him credible. And I say that because commenters all over, including on that video, are determined to constantly point out how believable he sounds. That means nothing.

I in no way implied that he is controlling congress, haha! I said it was unintentional comedy that it came off like he was trying to time the reissue of his book for when he expects the hearings to be in the news.

Newsnation keeps pumping out videos meanwhile and the commenters there have their hopes raised to the skies that billions of people will be in shock over what we're all about to be shown. Undeniable proof. Well let's get it on.


Burchett says they're going to have about a half dozen people, including pilots, testify. Why anyone cares what pilots have to say at this point when the supposedly credible people say we have the ships parked in our garage and we have agreements with the entities is beyond me, though.
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