https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/american-airlines-passenger-meltdown-b2372287.html
You're not the only one. Many men around the internet have commented on her spot on the Crazy/Hot matrix.Bregxit said:
Wood? Could be fun.
G Martin 87 said:
This is apparently a huge story right now, and in addition to the obvious entertainment value, may be an alien sighting. This lady seems convinced that she was sitting next to a reptilian shapeshifter on an AA flight out of DFW. Imagine my astonishment when I searched TexAgs at the behest of the missus and didn't find a single reference anywhere. This seems like a good place.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/american-airlines-passenger-meltdown-b2372287.html
Well yeah, we have a 4-star admiral who thinks he's a woman, and just had a bald transgender top nuclear waste official stealing clothes from airport luggage just to name two we know about.Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:TCTTS said:Rubio: The government either 1) has retrieved alien craft and reverse engineered them, or 2) a lot of high-level govn't officials are crazy. "We've got to figure out which one of these two it is." 👏🛸 #UFOTwitter https://t.co/5hGBX3AeoO
— David Bates (@DavidBWriter) July 12, 2023
I know where I'm placing my bet.
Joes said:
Alright, I just watched every minute of this hour and a half long video with Ross posted last night (in addition to, as I've said, watching some of his others recently.)
The guy presents himself very well, but that in itself means nothing. He may be completely honest and well-intentioned, that's certainly possible, but my point is that the best scam artists are by definition "convincing". It's the reason so many killers like Bundy and Dahmer were said to be so charming and likeable.
But anyway..
He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.
And like I said before, this whole business of studying Pentagon pilot videos to determine what's going on is made completely pointless by the fact that the specific claims are that we have multiple intact and damaged craft, plus bodies in our hands, plus, as Ross reminds us in this video, we've even entered into agreements with these beings.
Multiple times now he has stated unequivocally that at least one craft is too big to move, in a country outside the U.S, and that we've simply built a building over it to cover it up. He admits he knows a lot more about it, including the location, but can't say.
I just don't even understand the point of making these semi-statements unless it's all bull*****
What is the point of Grusch even doing the interview at all if he can only give evidence to Congress in private? What is the point of Ross going on show after show to basically say "I know specific things that would blow people's minds and cause panic, but I can't tell you what they are"? Don't they know that only frustrates and torments the very people they claim to represent?
These people who claim to be helping all the believers in reality are just trolling them, whether intended or not.
I mean, Ross is there live on video, just say "Yeah, I know there's a stadium sized craft under a building on this highway outside Milan, Italy that can't be moved" and within hours 2 million followers and investigators and media people would have it surrounded and this would all be over. But no, this man who is determined to see disclosure happen won't do it himself.
Instead, it's an endless breadcrumb trail of "we know stuff but we can't tell you", "stuff would have come out already except for this unlucky event", "stuff probably will be disclosed now but only to other select people behind closed doors that the public won't know about so don't get your hopes up", etc. Also, towards the end there was the unintended comedy of Ross telling the host that in his opinion it's optimistic for hearings to happen in July, more likely September, followed a few minutes later during the wrap-up of the host reminding everyone that Ross' UFO book will be re-issued in September.
Oh well, we'll see. I'm NOT outright calling them liars but the weak spots are constant and it's always "wait til next year!" like Charlie Brown and his baseball team.
Again, like the point I made on another recent post, in spite of the radically different forms they take, the bottom line is that almost all people seem to require that in their worldview they're living in a special time in which something incredible is always on the horizon.
Doomsayers are always saying the end of the world is at hand. Just in my lifetime it was "Reagan will kill us all any day!", then the Gulf War, then Y2K, then 2012, now the Russia thing. Preppers just know it's any day now. "Just look around, the world has never been more dangerous!"
Nature worshippers are obsessed that the Earth itself will end us in retaliation by 1990. Or maybe 2000. Or maybe 2008. Or maybe 2020. Or maybe some other year right around the corner. "Just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
Religious people are convinced that the rapture is coming any day now, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
And UFO enthusiasts are convinced that we're about to enter a whole new phase of reality interacting with alien creatures and interdimensional travel and anti-gravity technology, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
And some of these people on show after show will swear they can tell you what and where it is, but maybe some other time, here's the link to my podcast and bookstore.
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He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.
Joes said:
Alright, I just watched every minute of this hour and a half long video with Ross posted last night (in addition to, as I've said, watching some of his others recently.)
The guy presents himself very well, but that in itself means nothing. He may be completely honest and well-intentioned, that's certainly possible, but my point is that the best scam artists are by definition "convincing". It's the reason so many killers like Bundy and Dahmer were said to be so charming and likeable.
But anyway..
He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.
And like I said before, this whole business of studying Pentagon pilot videos to determine what's going on is made completely pointless by the fact that the specific claims are that we have multiple intact and damaged craft, plus bodies in our hands, plus, as Ross reminds us in this video, we've even entered into agreements with these beings.
Multiple times now he has stated unequivocally that at least one craft is too big to move, in a country outside the U.S, and that we've simply built a building over it to cover it up. He admits he knows a lot more about it, including the location, but can't say.
I just don't even understand the point of making these semi-statements unless it's all bull*****
What is the point of Grusch even doing the interview at all if he can only give evidence to Congress in private? What is the point of Ross going on show after show to basically say "I know specific things that would blow people's minds and cause panic, but I can't tell you what they are"? Don't they know that only frustrates and torments the very people they claim to represent?
These people who claim to be helping all the believers in reality are just trolling them, whether intended or not.
I mean, Ross is there live on video, just say "Yeah, I know there's a stadium sized craft under a building on this highway outside Milan, Italy that can't be moved" and within hours 2 million followers and investigators and media people would have it surrounded and this would all be over. But no, this man who is determined to see disclosure happen won't do it himself.
Instead, it's an endless breadcrumb trail of "we know stuff but we can't tell you", "stuff would have come out already except for this unlucky event", "stuff probably will be disclosed now but only to other select people behind closed doors that the public won't know about so don't get your hopes up", etc. Also, towards the end there was the unintended comedy of Ross telling the host that in his opinion it's optimistic for hearings to happen in July, more likely September, followed a few minutes later during the wrap-up of the host reminding everyone that Ross' UFO book will be re-issued in September.
Oh well, we'll see. I'm NOT outright calling them liars but the weak spots are constant and it's always "wait til next year!" like Charlie Brown and his baseball team.
Again, like the point I made on another recent post, in spite of the radically different forms they take, the bottom line is that almost all people seem to require that in their worldview they're living in a special time in which something incredible is always on the horizon.
Doomsayers are always saying the end of the world is at hand. Just in my lifetime it was "Reagan will kill us all any day!", then the Gulf War, then Y2K, then 2012, now the Russia thing. Preppers just know it's any day now. "Just look around, the world has never been more dangerous!"
Nature worshippers are obsessed that the Earth itself will end us in retaliation by 1990. Or maybe 2000. Or maybe 2008. Or maybe 2020. Or maybe some other year right around the corner. "Just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
Religious people are convinced that the rapture is coming any day now, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
And UFO enthusiasts are convinced that we're about to enter a whole new phase of reality interacting with alien creatures and interdimensional travel and anti-gravity technology, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
And some of these people on show after show will swear they can tell you what and where it is, but maybe some other time, here's the link to my podcast and bookstore.
redline248 said:Quote:
He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.
I think I would have explained it differently. Cracks me up.Quote:
Rubio: It's either, we have alien spacecraft and the biggest story in human history ..... or we have people in really important positions of government that are crazy.
Ghost of Bisbee said:G Martin 87 said:
This is apparently a huge story right now, and in addition to the obvious entertainment value, may be an alien sighting. This lady seems convinced that she was sitting next to a reptilian shapeshifter on an AA flight out of DFW. Imagine my astonishment when I searched TexAgs at the behest of the missus and didn't find a single reference anywhere. This seems like a good place.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/american-airlines-passenger-meltdown-b2372287.html
What's weird is I haven't seen that lady pop up in any follow up reporting. Anyone catch anything?
TCTTS said:
Again, I'd be shocked to discover she didn't either have either a mental or drug-induced breakdown
NEW: Senator Schumer introducing legislation to create a review panel that will oversee release of UFO/UAP documents held by the government. https://t.co/zvDnDYHded
— Julian E. Barnes (@julianbarnes) July 13, 2023
A hugely important move: Senator Schumer Pushes Measure to Declassify UFO Records @nytimes. Also, “gives the federal government the power to claim any crashed spaceships in private or corporate hands…”
— Ross Coulthart (@rosscoulthart) July 14, 2023
Did @nytimes just splutter ‘Spaceships’? https://t.co/bAYm06dqTT
Schumer’s staff says Congress is pissed off that the DoD and IC haven’t made public more recent data on UFOs.
— ᴋʟᴀᵾs (@tinyklaus) July 14, 2023
So they’re setting up a review board to retrieve documents from all over the government and declassify what they can.
Wow.https://t.co/3gp5KkNodw pic.twitter.com/C2VCyGosFD
Redstone said:
Fims of James Fox, especially The Phenomenon
Ron James, "Accidental Truth-UFO Revelations."
Michael Cera Palin said:
Can't believe I'm just now finding this thread
TCTTS, thank you for starting this and genuinely engaging everyone, both fellow believers and those who come with skepticism/criticism.
I would consider myself a fellow traveler when it comes to UAPs. Totally in on this thread
As @Coulthart_Zabel predicted last week, these #UAP transparency amendments now enjoy bipartisan support of three of the most powerful oversight committees in Congress. The heat is on @DeptofDefense to reveal what it knows. https://t.co/ZMzP0aAMO4
— Ross Coulthart (@rosscoulthart) July 14, 2023
Let's read between the lines here: a Gang of 8 member who is theoretically 1 of 8 Americans who should be aware of *all* SAPs/WUSAPs is annoyed that his staff is unable to access certain records - none of which (to my knowledge) should be legal to withhold from him. #UFOtwitter
— Katie Howland🔮 (@katieshowland) July 14, 2023
There is a near zero percent chance that Majority Leader Schumer would introduce this bill without direct and intimate consultation with the White House. https://t.co/sBRoJWFQ8k
— richard butt (@conterammundi) July 14, 2023
To all my debunker friends, there ISN’t a conspiracy theory where:
— Diego Diaz (@6diego32) July 13, 2023
Experienced pilots have lied about near misses, multiple sensor data from our multimillion dollar equipment has been ‘manipulated’ by the same people that have ‘nefariously convinced’ congress UAP are real. Also,…
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To all my debunker friends, there ISN't a conspiracy theory where:
Experienced pilots have lied about near misses, multiple sensor data from our multimillion dollar equipment has been 'manipulated' by the same people that have 'nefariously convinced' congress UAP are real. Also, current and former intel community officials, who have all then 'conspired', under penalty of perjury, by lying to the members of the senate intelligence committee, who then wrote specific 'nonsense language', which then unanimously passed the intel committee… that would be, absolutely, a wild conspiracy theory.
Occam's razor indicates that the credible witnesses are NOT lying to congress and there isn't a 'conspiracy' where congress was 'tricked' into passing legislation about UAP during an election year.
So @neiltyson
— Jon Hudson (@_Desmoden) July 14, 2023
You really think that #DavidGrusch
1.) Gave up his career
2.) Lied to the AG
3.) Convinced the AG his lie was real.
4.) Arranged for others to lie to the AG as well.
5.) Testified under oath
All so he can sell books?
That is your well thought out analysis?
I specifically said he may be entirely honest and well intentioned and also later emphasized I'm NOT calling him a liar. All I said was that the way he presents himself alone does not make him credible. And I say that because commenters all over, including on that video, are determined to constantly point out how believable he sounds. That means nothing.TCTTS said:Joes said:
Alright, I just watched every minute of this hour and a half long video with Ross posted last night (in addition to, as I've said, watching some of his others recently.)
The guy presents himself very well, but that in itself means nothing. He may be completely honest and well-intentioned, that's certainly possible, but my point is that the best scam artists are by definition "convincing". It's the reason so many killers like Bundy and Dahmer were said to be so charming and likeable.
But anyway..
He says that had Hillary won in 2016 that this would have all been disclosed in 2017 because she was negotiating with all involved parties for that purpose, but that when Trump won he was deemed too erratic to be trusted to disclose it all properly.
And like I said before, this whole business of studying Pentagon pilot videos to determine what's going on is made completely pointless by the fact that the specific claims are that we have multiple intact and damaged craft, plus bodies in our hands, plus, as Ross reminds us in this video, we've even entered into agreements with these beings.
Multiple times now he has stated unequivocally that at least one craft is too big to move, in a country outside the U.S, and that we've simply built a building over it to cover it up. He admits he knows a lot more about it, including the location, but can't say.
I just don't even understand the point of making these semi-statements unless it's all bull*****
What is the point of Grusch even doing the interview at all if he can only give evidence to Congress in private? What is the point of Ross going on show after show to basically say "I know specific things that would blow people's minds and cause panic, but I can't tell you what they are"? Don't they know that only frustrates and torments the very people they claim to represent?
These people who claim to be helping all the believers in reality are just trolling them, whether intended or not.
I mean, Ross is there live on video, just say "Yeah, I know there's a stadium sized craft under a building on this highway outside Milan, Italy that can't be moved" and within hours 2 million followers and investigators and media people would have it surrounded and this would all be over. But no, this man who is determined to see disclosure happen won't do it himself.
Instead, it's an endless breadcrumb trail of "we know stuff but we can't tell you", "stuff would have come out already except for this unlucky event", "stuff probably will be disclosed now but only to other select people behind closed doors that the public won't know about so don't get your hopes up", etc. Also, towards the end there was the unintended comedy of Ross telling the host that in his opinion it's optimistic for hearings to happen in July, more likely September, followed a few minutes later during the wrap-up of the host reminding everyone that Ross' UFO book will be re-issued in September.
Oh well, we'll see. I'm NOT outright calling them liars but the weak spots are constant and it's always "wait til next year!" like Charlie Brown and his baseball team.
Again, like the point I made on another recent post, in spite of the radically different forms they take, the bottom line is that almost all people seem to require that in their worldview they're living in a special time in which something incredible is always on the horizon.
Doomsayers are always saying the end of the world is at hand. Just in my lifetime it was "Reagan will kill us all any day!", then the Gulf War, then Y2K, then 2012, now the Russia thing. Preppers just know it's any day now. "Just look around, the world has never been more dangerous!"
Nature worshippers are obsessed that the Earth itself will end us in retaliation by 1990. Or maybe 2000. Or maybe 2008. Or maybe 2020. Or maybe some other year right around the corner. "Just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
Religious people are convinced that the rapture is coming any day now, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
And UFO enthusiasts are convinced that we're about to enter a whole new phase of reality interacting with alien creatures and interdimensional travel and anti-gravity technology, "just look around and you'll see the evidence everywhere!"
And some of these people on show after show will swear they can tell you what and where it is, but maybe some other time, here's the link to my podcast and bookstore.
First of all, there is absolutely nothing that even remotely points to Coulthart being a "scam artist." His credentials are real/verified, his contacts are real/verified, and he has proven his integrity time and again. Not to mention, he's a highly respected 60 Minutes Australia journalist, one who simply started looking into the subject of UAP, with the intent to debunk it, only to discover there was a lot more there that he couldn't outright dismiss. He then used his clout and contacts to continue digging, and now here we are.
Tell me, why, exactly, is Coulthart making the claims these "completely pointless" or "all bullsh*t"? You simply declared as much without any reasoning whatsoever. When it's apparent he's not only trying to raise awareness amongst the general public, but more importantly, attempting to get the powers-that-be to take this subject more seriously. While it sounds like you're just boxing him into some arbitrary scenario where he's only allowed to make claims that come with immediate proof that satisfy you.
Except that's not at all the point.
It's a process, not some exercise meant to solely and immediately appease people on message boards.
The primary point of Coulthart's claims, and the point of him helping Grusch come forward, is to get the attention of the people who can actually do something about this, i.e. the Congress and the Senate.
And guess what?
It worked.
As a *direct* result of Coulthart's bonafides, and his interview with Grusch, Congress is now holding a hearing at the end of this month to question Grusch and others, with the Senate then doing the same in the fall.
And isn't that *exactly* what we want?
We certainly know it's what Grusch wants, because he's said as much time again. He WANTS the powers-that-be to look into this. He WANTS them to try and call his bluff. He's *literally* saying as much. He's not hiding or backing down. He WANTS his claims investigated. Which is why this whole, dubious, Negative Nancy schtick you've got going on makes zero sense. If Grusch is telling the truth, the world changes for forever. If he's lying, he goes to prison. It's that simple. He's put himself on that line, and yet all you can do is call bullsh*t? That makes absolutely no sense, and tells me you're not approaching this with an actual desire for truth, but rather a desire for the thing you want to happen to be true (i.e. these guys all being hacks).
Also, do you *really* think Coulthart is somehow dictating when these hearings are? Not only do we know for a fact that one is happening at the end of the month, and we know for a fact that there are others to follow, it's just asinine to believe that this is all some coordinated effort - that our government is somehow in on - to help Australian journalist Ross Coulthart sell the new paperback edition of his book. In your mind it's either that, or the most hilariously elaborate Nathan for You episode ever…
Like, really? These are the straws you're grasping at?
You can roll your eyes all you want, but for me at least, I'm simply reacting to the unprecedented series of events that are happening in front of my face; the unprecedented language being put into the Intelligence Authorization Act, the unprecedented number of credible officials and pilots coming forward, the unprecedented seriousness with which this subject is suddenly being treated in general, etc. I've agreed time and again that this could all just be our tech, or a psyop, or whatever. Whatever it is, though, something unprecedented *is* happening, whether you believe it or not. It's just a matter of where we discover its origins. Regardless, that you can so easily dismiss all of it says more about what your goal here is than anyone else's.