Early OT?

Origin Theory?

Old Testatment

Data derived from a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute for military espionage purposes. You can run, but you can't hide...


Good thoughts on the current status of all things et.

Farsight's project targets have included The Fatima "Miracle", Moses, Jesus, Mohamed, Shroud of Turin etc.

The implications derived from the data collected are profound.

I rarely go down reddit rabbit holes of this sort, but this one, posted just a few hours ago, is so incredibly compelling and detailed, written with such a high level of knowledge and expertise, that I can't help but be intrigued. Other biologists are chiming in as well, claiming that, scientifically speaking, everything this guy is saying checks out, and points to him, at the very least, being an actual expert in the field. Of course, that doesn't preclude him from being an expert hoaxer as well, but something about this dude comes off as genuine, at least compared to similar BS attempts in the past. Not to mention all the weird things going on with his account, that even the mods can't figure out. Again, I'm not saying I believe any of this, but it does make for a hell of a read...

https://t.co/vpinNsfdZD

— 💭 think tank (@528vibes) July 6, 2023

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14rp7w9/from_the_late_2000s_to_the_mid2010s_i_worked_as_a/

What's also interesting is that so much of it lines up with various leaks and rumors over the years, as to the apparent biological makeup/purpose of these beings. Now, one on hand, if he's bullsh*tting, this dude could have of course been knowledgeable of many of those rumors, and reverse engineered his story to fit them. But the scientific level at which he describes the biology, fills in certain gaps, and presents new theories/ideas is insane. As many in the thread are saying, if this dude is a LARP, he's one of the best reddit has ever seen.

The Biology/A&P/Microbiology technical jargon is legit. Including assays, BSL, etc

— @therealbyronian (@therealbyronian) July 6, 2023

The mod was saying only an admin can shadowban or suspend. So you can rule out a lone hoaxer doing it for credibility unless EBOScientistB is a senior molecular biologist who works at reddit as an admin.

Which ofc not

— TƎᑫᑫUᑫ_ꓘƆOM (@MOCK_PUPPET) July 6, 2023

It's simultaneously depressing and so much more plausible that we wouldn't be dealing with something original that flew here from far away, but instead are dealing with organic machinery based on the data they sent.

Also, it's insane that their religion is basically The Force without all that manipulate-it-to-cast-magic-spells part.

I've read his entire post three times now, along with every last reply. I realize this won't be nearly the same for most everyone else, and I'll likely get sh*t for even admitting it, but if true (and that's obviously a big "if"), this is one of the most interesting if not profound things I've ever read regarding this subject. If only because it makes *perfect* sense of so much speculation, and so many rumors, that have been circulating for years now.

Especially when it comes to the "soul field," which sounds much more like actual science we don't yet understand than their "religion."

I've even mentioned this emerging theory in various religious discussion on this very board - the increasingly popular (and increasingly scientifically supported) idea that we *receive* consciousness, on a quantum level, rather than produce it - and his explanation is so spot on in that regard, and breaks it down so well, that I'm more persuaded than ever. Ha, it really is basically The Force.

Anyway, I know exactly how much of a lunatic I sound like right now, so I'll stop before I embarrass myself any further. But yeah... between David Grusch coming forward last month, and now this post this month, things are getting pretty wild.

I just finished reading, in its entirety, the Reddit thread on Exo-Biospheric-Organisms (EBOs). Like others have mentioned, if this is a larp, it is the greatest larp ever written on Reddit, 4chan, what have you. Just speculating, but whoever posted this could have been part of… pic.twitter.com/TxJxUk9Rqv

— TheJuan1️⃣ (@planethunter56) July 6, 2023

And now even Rogan is getting sucked in...

I think there are rabbits in these holes https://t.co/P1FTXAPcoT

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) July 6, 2023

Azariah said:

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It's simultaneously depressing and so much more plausible that we wouldn't be dealing with something original that flew here from far away, but instead are dealing with organic machinery based on the data they sent.

Also, it's insane that their religion is basically The Force without all that manipulate-it-to-cast-magic-spells part.

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Initially, it all sounds like an average episode of Star Trek Voyager or something George Lucas tossed in the reject pile. Yes, if this is part of the truth, it does seem less than what we might expect, or even hope for.

Archive post before the government deletes it!

The author is excellent, either as a LARP or something genuine. Very well done.

Let's assume it's mostly accurate. If so, this is obviously religious, including travel / "research" motivations.

Therefore, "powers of the air" that can materially and / or mentally interact with humanity, fallen elohims, has decent explanatory powers.

There is a (Catholic / Orthodox) Christian parallel to what the supposed religious analysis of the entities found:
The telos of life is theosis to Logos.

If we assume Christianity is true, then there would be a test, an invitation to affirm the Logos Incarnate. If rejected in some way, this would fit the accounts of "abductions being stopped" by an appeal to God.

And we know there are many people in the Pentagon who think along these lines, according to informed testimony placed on this and the 16 thread.

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What we've learned so far has enabled us to outline some disconcerting perspectives about our place in this universe. Briefly, we've discovered that the EBO genome is a chimera of genomes from our biosphere and from an unknown one. They are artificial, ephemeral and disposable organisms created for a purpose that still partially eludes us. I'll be substantiating my statements after a brief introduction.

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Now, how would one 'know' that a genome (or sequence of genes) from any kind of organism is from this biosphere (planet) or elsewhere?

We are at the very early "model T" stages of gene therapy/genetic programming in the body. The advances over the past 5 or 10 years have been huge.

This is inherently religious, no matter how uncomfortable that becomes. So many indications, even among the possible highly skilled hoaxers, of the non-material / spiritual.

The above bolded quote, 97, runs parallel to Protestant scholar and close textual analyst Michael Heiser's Unseen Realm. Whatever the actual details of the matter - 2nd Temple writers throughout the Levant really believed that primarily non-material entities, fallen elohims, could and did interact materially with humans, including via what we would understand as DNA, from sharing a meal to sexually.

Redstone said:

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This is inherently religious, no matter how uncomfortable that becomes. So many indications, even among the possible highly skilled hoaxers, of the non-material / spiritual.

The above bolded quote, 97, runs parallel to Protestant scholar and close textual analyst Michael Heiser's Unseen Realm. Whatever the actual details of the matter - 2nd Temple writers throughout the Levant really believed that primarily non-material entities, fallen elohims, could and did interact materially with humans, including via what we would understand as DNA, from sharing a meal to sexually.

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However, if these EBO details are true, there doesn't seem to be any simple mechanism for exchanging DNA. They can't eat solid food, or indeed, any liquid that isn't specifically designed for their digestive and excretion systems. Sounds like we would find their diet revolting and possibly dangerous as well. And they have no sexual organs at all, apparently. Encounters to exchange genetic material with these beings could not have been in a context that Biblical era humans would have understood.

I'm entertaining this possibility at present: that these beings could be flawed, twisted versions of life created not in His image by God, but rather imperfect constructs of the Deceiver made for the sole purpose of leading us astray. Does that really sound any more fantastical than what we've read so far?

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What we've learned so far has enabled us to outline some disconcerting perspectives about our place in this universe. Briefly, we've discovered that the EBO genome is a chimera of genomes from our biosphere and from an unknown one. They are artificial, ephemeral and disposable organisms created for a purpose that still partially eludes us. I'll be substantiating my statements after a brief introduction.

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Now, how would one 'know' that a genome (or sequence of genes) from any kind of organism is from this biosphere (planet) or elsewhere?

We are at the very early "model T" stages of gene therapy/genetic programming in the body. The advances over the past 5 or 10 years have been huge.

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Exactly! Word!

This is part of the reason why I'll never believe any of this bullcrap. Humans being behind this is more realistic than off world life forms.

G Martin 87 said:

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Azariah said:

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It's simultaneously depressing and so much more plausible that we wouldn't be dealing with something original that flew here from far away, but instead are dealing with organic machinery based on the data they sent.

Also, it's insane that their religion is basically The Force without all that manipulate-it-to-cast-magic-spells part.

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Initially, it all sounds like an average episode of Star Trek Voyager or something George Lucas tossed in the reject pile. Yes, if this is part of the truth, it does seem less than what we might expect, or even hope for.

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At least they're not here to kill us.

Seriously, though, if at all true, I think it sounds pretty cool, all things considered.

What would you rather them be/do?

Redstone said:

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The author is excellent, either as a LARP or something genuine. Very well done.

Let's assume it's mostly accurate. If so, this is obviously religious, including travel / "research" motivations.

Therefore, "powers of the air" that can materially and / or mentally interact with humanity, fallen elohims, has decent explanatory powers.

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I don't necessarily agree with this.

The basic idea is that consciousness is as fundamental to existence as space, time, and gravity. In fact, it would not only be the bedrock of all things, it would be what brought all things into existence.

And yes, for all intents and purposes, that's God.

It's just God explained slightly more through "science," i.e. not so much a strictly spiritual God of the Bible that resides "heaven," but something more tangible in the here and now that we can tap into and eventually return to after death.

I guess I just don't understand the urge to try and immediately force all of this to fit Christianity, when it's much more likely that Christianity (and every other religion) took cues from, or was man's early interpretation of, consciousness as the bedrock/creator, as a fundamental aspect of existence.

In the end, yes, it's all basically the same thing, and yes, I'm splitting hairs in a way. Again, I just get a bit uneasy when people try to immediately force these beings into the "demon" category. And who knows, they could very well be just as malevolent. But I'd much prefer to take a wait-and-see approach, rather than trying to make all of this fit some "good vs. evil" religious narrative from the jump.

We don't really disagree, except obviously for our personal commitments.

My points are twofold:

- for either this disclosure, or the LARP, we are in the realm of metaphysics, of considerations for some manner of first cause
- if the testimony is valid, the first cause is of motivating concern for the entities, and from the Christian perspective such a motivation can be tested

Demon is a loaded umbrella term and why I write elohim, or spiritual entity with some ability for materialization

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it's much more likely that Christianity (and every other religion) took cues from, or was man's early interpretation of, consciousness as the bedrock/creator, as a fundamental aspect of existence.

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This is not an anti-Christian stance, assuming that the faith was in some manner present for all earnest seekers before the 1st Century (and I do), and would remain so for anyone in our time or elsewhere with restricted teaching / knowledge. Regardless, it does seem that spiritual experiences can be tested, and it remains curious to me why we hear so little of those testimonies where people have "stopped" supposed abductions.

All well said.

And yes, I've been curious about the "stopped" supposed abductions as well. IF true, it's an interesting data point for sure. But as of now, it remains something that we can't even come close to verifying.

What we don't know is much greater than what we know.

Bingo.

Maybe I missed it in the reddit thread, but did the scientist ever explain why he/she left the project?

I only saw a reference in the replies to it being a dead-end job.

He/she talked about a NDA during the interview/onboarding process, but what about when leaving?

It doesn't add or subtract from the story, but I would like to know...

lunchbox said:

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Maybe I missed it in the reddit thread, but did the scientist ever explain why he/she left the project?

I only saw a reference in the replies to it being a dead-end job.

He/she talked about a NDA during the interview/onboarding process, but what about when leaving?

It doesn't add or subtract from the story, but I would like to know...

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I've been through that thread extensively and don't recall seeing anything about how the OP left the project.

G Martin 87 said:

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lunchbox said:

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Maybe I missed it in the reddit thread, but did the scientist ever explain why he/she left the project?

I only saw a reference in the replies to it being a dead-end job.

He/she talked about a NDA during the interview/onboarding process, but what about when leaving?

It doesn't add or subtract from the story, but I would like to know...

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I've been through that thread extensively and don't recall seeing anything about how the OP left the project.

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Right? I didn't even see anyone ask about it....which I thought was odd.

It would have been the first thing I would have asked since I don't have the credentials to ask all the bio-scientific questions.

Did they cycle off? Leave on their own accord? Forced out?

It's not addressed in the post, but from what I understand (if any of this is real, mind you), a number of these types are in it for only a few years at a time, a decade max, by design. I think the only career individuals are upper management and the like, not the scientists and engineers. So I imagine his contract was simply up, but who knows.

TCTTS said:

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It's not addressed in the post, but from what I understand (if any of this is real, mind you), a number of these types are in it for only a few years at a time, a decade max, by design. I think the only career individuals are upper management and the like, not the scientists and engineers. So I imagine his contract was simply up, but who knows.

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Makes sense...it sounded like the scientist was fresh out of grad school when starting...and worked for 10 yrs...I doubt they were paid well enough to just retire, so how do you go from aliens to...yeast cells or something?

It would be like Jimmy Butler saying he had enough of the NBA and would just play in the G-League until he was ready to retire.

Also, in order to get another non-entry level job, they'd have to give him a good back story to what he's been doing for the last 10 yrs. They probably just put them in another non-alien lab that they run so they could keep tabs on them.

I get distracted by the details that don't matter to the overall story. Sorry.

lunchbox said:

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TCTTS said:

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It's not addressed in the post, but from what I understand (if any of this is real, mind you), a number of these types are in it for only a few years at a time, a decade max, by design. I think the only career individuals are upper management and the like, not the scientists and engineers. So I imagine his contract was simply up, but who knows.

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Makes sense...it sounded like the scientist was fresh out of grad school when starting...and worked for 10 yrs...I doubt they were paid well enough to just retire, so how do you go from aliens to...yeast cells or something?

It would be like Jimmy Butler saying he had enough of the NBA and would just play in the G-League until he was ready to retire.

Also, in order to get another non-entry level job, they'd have to give him a good back story to what he's been doing for the last 10 yrs. They probably just put them in another non-alien lab that they run so they could keep tabs on them.

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All good points and definitely interesting to consider. Yeah, I don't how the hell I would move on from working on aliens, in a job more secret that the Manhattan Project. That said, I could see the secrecy aspect eventually wearing me down, not to mention working in windowless basements, etc. It might ultimately get pretty frustrating and weirdly monotonous.