It's like they ripped the dialogue straight from Lucas!

Kenobi - "Use the Force, Luke. Let go"
Ice - "It's time to let go"

Kenobi - "I need your help, Luke. She needs your help"
Ice - "The Navy needs Maverick. The Kid needs Maverick"

Kenobi - "Who is more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?"
Ice - "Who's the better pilot? You or me?"

Kenobi - *Dies at a critical moment*
Ice - *Dies at a critical moment*

I honestly think Andor is clouding our memory of the first season of the Mandalorian.

Overall the show seems pretty consistently aimless and episodic to me.

powerbelly said:

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I honestly think Andor is clouding our memory of the first season of the Mandalorian.

Overall the show seems pretty consistently aimless and episodic to me.

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Meh. I'm not a big Star Wars fan. But I loved Andor and I actually enjoyed the first two seasons of Mando, the whole episodic space western was fairly entertaining.

This season has been bad. I bailed after the dumb scene where all the Mandalorians had the really poorly down cosplay fight training scene.

Star Wars is always gonna get Star Wars fans to watch even if it's crap. You guys will gripe but still watch. It's the meh fan like me that will only tune in if it's good TV or film.

The Star Wars universe is fascinating, they don't really do it justice very often IMO.

The Porkchop Express said:

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The Hollywood reporter article is just reporting what other websites are writing and quoting rotten tomato reviews. Do they actually have reporters?

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plenty of similar thoughts all over youtube, and the star wars subreddit and twitter and....

so ridiculous to blame this one outlet with running the story

Still not as bad as the ones who write entire articles about a single theory posted on Reddit as if it were an actual scoop.

TCTTS said:

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I guess I just I don't know what else they're supposed to do for a story like this, or who these sources are supposed to be. It's a story about the declined quality of the show. If I were a critic and they reached out to me for comment, I would simply refer them to my review, which has plenty of quotes they can pull from. Are they supposed to interview someone at Lucasfilm and ask them why the show is so aimless now? I guess they could find some insider who could maybe speculate as to why they *think* the quality has dipped, but that would ultimately be just as arbitrary as all these opinions they're aggregating.

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If you ran CNN, would you cultivate your own sources for stories or would you start every article and newscast with "According to the BBC, Joe Biden forgot his car keys today."

The Hollywood Reporter, in publication for 92 years, should be better than some intern typing in "Mando Season 3 bad reviews" and then writing a summary of what they find and calling it a news story.

The majority of critics of love to be asked to talk about their opinions and give more context and detail. Get them on a 10-minute Zoom call and ask them for more detail, and then you have a fresh take of information that is not something that any 2-bit blogger can find on the Internet, because you went out and actually made contact with the person with the opinion and got more details.

And you absolutely should go to Lucasfilm and ask for a quote about it, because that's fair and balanced journalism. Even if they say no comment, you did your due diligence and went and talked to them. They took a quote from Producer RIck after Bo Katan's upgraded role, but they definitely got that from some other source. They didn't ask the question themselves.

My issue is not with you TC, it's not with anyone having a negative opinion of Mando, it's a free country. But reporters should want to report on news - meaning something no one else has written yet, even if it's just one new quote or one new detail. Writing a summary of what's already out there and adding zero new context or information is just ****ty, unimaginative journalism. The way you feel about ****ty storytelling in movies/TV is the way I feel about it in written pieces from supposedly top publications.

Damn Damn Damn. That was fun!

This episode had a little bit of everything.

Grogu and the "No!" button. LOL

RIP Paz. Hoped you would make it. I wouldn't be mad if they cheated and you somehow survived.

boogieman said:

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RIP Paz. Hoped you would make it. I wouldn't be mad if they cheated and you somehow survived.

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"somehow, Chad Vizla came back."

someone made the joke a few days ago

"Paz Vizla? You mean Past Vizla".

Esposito is one fantastic villain.

The Praetorian Guard ruthless.

Captain Pelleaon breathed right to life from a 31year old book. That was just beautiful to us old EU fans.

Also I loved the look of the land ship that the refugees had. Shame it got destroyed. Not sure why they decided to drive within 3 feet of the giant monster before swerving.

Actual villains!

With clearly stated goals!

Mandalorian factions coming together!

With clearly stated goals!

Well-articulated stakes that affect each side and not just The Problem of the Week.

THESE are the things that should have been established in, say, episode two or three of this season. Instead, there was so much needless wheel spinning just to get here.

For budgetary reasons, obviously they couldn't have given us this much action in one episode, so early in the season. But if they just would have established these opposing forces earlier, and established their respective goals and stakes like they did tonight, they could have drawn this basic story out for so many more episodes - the story so many of us were expecting this season to actually be about - and it would have been so much more engaging.

Favreau and Filoni really chose violence and chaos when they wrote Grogu in IG-12, huh? I am living for it. I was laughing so hard I nearly cried.

Also, RIP Paz. I was hoping he would survive.

Can Moff Gideon be treated for Mando imposter syndrome? Give it up dude.

Also calling it now, Grogu gonna save his dad to parallel S2 finale.

No No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

Star Wars was COOKING

TCTTS said:

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Actual villains!

With clearly stated goals!

Mandalorian factions coming together!

With clearly stated goals!

Well-articulated stakes that affect each side and not just The Problem of the Week.

THESE are the things that should have been established in, say, episode two or three of this season. Instead, there was so much needless wheel spinning just to get here.

For budgetary reasons, obviously they couldn't have given us this much action in one episode, so early in the season. But if they just would have established these opposing forces earlier, and established their respective goals and stakes like they did tonight, they could have drawn this basic story out for so many more episodes - the story so many of us were expecting this season to actually be about - and it would have been so much more engaging.

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TC being my junior high basketball coach the time I made a game winning shot and the first thing he told me was that I left too much time on the clock.