I mean, it does make you invisible to anyone who can't see the shadow realm, that's getting a little pedantic I think. And I think he means the idea is that these rings amplify the wearer, not the One Ring.
It's not pedantic at all. Being invisible is one thing. The fact it pulls you into the spiritual realm is something completely different and more foreboding. Making a magic ring that makes you invisible is no more ominous than Harry Potter's invisibility cloak.bobinator said:
I mean, it does make you invisible to anyone who can't see the shadow realm, that's getting a little pedantic I think. And I think he means the idea is that these rings amplify the wearer, not the One Ring.
Dude... I was literally giving a correction based on the source material. No need to get so defensive.TCTTS said:
I'm just having a conversation here, and was clearly speaking in a guessing nature. I'm sorry I don't remember the exact wording from a 21-year-old voice over. I just remember Bilbo *wanting* to be invisible, putting on the ring, and then becoming invisible. That, to me, says he has at least some say so in how/when it works. But apparently not. Also, for all intents and purposes, he's invisible. I get the distinction you're making, but it's ultimately besides the point.
Stupid green-FX-bad-hair-day-smokers-voice Galadriel kind of covered it n Lothlorien.TCTTS said:
That's what I figured.
I wonder whether Galadriel would have been able to truly wield it. I think Gandalf would, because he is a Maia. It's interesting to think about Galadriel, though.Brian Earl Spilner said:
The person wearing the ring most definitely makes a difference. An incredibly powerful being like Gandalf or Galadriel would be incredibly dangerous with the ring, whereas a Hobbit wearing it poses little threat because they are easygoing and have no evil ambitions.
DallasTeleAg said:It doesn't make you invisible. It pulls you into the spirit realm. That's why the wraiths can still see Frodo and he sees their true images. It has nothing to do with the will of the wearer because no being who has worn the Ring, other than Sauron, has the power to bend it to their will.TCTTS said:
Totally valid question, but the same could be asked of how the ring worked in the original trilogy. I never understood *how* it made someone invisible, I just knew that it did. To that point, I'm assuming it has to do with the will of the person wearing the ring. It basically amplifies the desires in some way of whoever possesses it.
In the prologue, you are literally told that Sauron poured his essence into the One Ring. That is why he could no longer take physical shape without it.
Lol...bobinator said:
He wasn't saying the One Ring's only ability is to make someone invisible. The point was that the mechanics of the One Ring aren't spelled out in the movie.
I'm not familiar to what you are referring. Are you referencing something from the book or the movie? Can you link the line?gggmann said:
But he did take physical form, at least that's my interpretation from what Gollum says about the black hand with only 4 fingers.
Now the Shadow grew ever greater, and the hearts of Elrond and Mithrandir darkened. Therefore on a time Mithrandir at great peril went again to Dol Guldur and the pits of the Sorcerer, and he discovered the truth of his fears, and escaped. And returning to Elrond he said:DallasTeleAg said:I'm not familiar to what you are referring. Are you referencing something from the book or the movie? Can you link the line?gggmann said:
But he did take physical form, at least that's my interpretation from what Gollum says about the black hand with only 4 fingers.
I'll have to check the Fellowship, sometime. I'm curious if Tolkien contradicted himself on that account. I know the movies mentioned he hasn't been able to take physical shape.C@LAg said:Now the Shadow grew ever greater, and the hearts of Elrond and Mithrandir darkened. Therefore on a time Mithrandir at great peril went again to Dol Guldur and the pits of the Sorcerer, and he discovered the truth of his fears, and escaped. And returning to Elrond he said:DallasTeleAg said:I'm not familiar to what you are referring. Are you referencing something from the book or the movie? Can you link the line?gggmann said:
But he did take physical form, at least that's my interpretation from what Gollum says about the black hand with only 4 fingers.
'True, alas, is our guess. This is not one of the lairi, as many have long supposed. It is Sauron himself who has taken shape again and now grows apace; and he is gathering again all the Rings to his hand; and he seeks ever for news of the One, and of the Heirs of Isildur, if they live still on earth.'
It took him about 1000 years, but he was able to again take a humanoid form and used such as the Necromancer. From 1000TA on. And why he was physical enough for Gollum to see when he was being tortured.
PatAg said:
It wasnt super subtle, but anyone catch the "follow your nose" line?
Orome said:
I think them ham-fisting so many Lord of the Rings symmetries hurt the story. #MemberBerries
KCup17 said:
I'm only halfway through the season finale and haven't read anything from this board since I last posted but Halbrand and Sauron is a lock.
Edit: I don't think I need a spoiler tag for that as I haven't finished the episode?? but in my mind he is 100% a sneaky devil Morgoth servant.
Definitely not on that level.ChipFTAC01 said:PatAg said:
It wasnt super subtle, but anyone catch the "follow your nose" line?
I caught it because they were being super unsubtle and could tell it was a reference to something but I don't remember.
I really hope this isn't akin to me forgetting "On your left" when it popped up in Endgame.
KCup17 said:
Who is to say that the Blue Wizards don't show up in a subsequent season? I'm totally fine with the stranger being Gandalf. After all the Israeli were sent to Middle Earth to combat Sauron. So to me it wouldn't be a stretch to get an introduction to all of them throughout this series.
DVC2010 said:KCup17 said:
Who is to say that the Blue Wizards don't show up in a subsequent season? I'm totally fine with the stranger being Gandalf. After all the Israeli were sent to Middle Earth to combat Sauron. So to me it wouldn
't be a stretch to get an introduction to all of them throughout this series.
Peter Jackson lied. Here's the real last alliance.
YNWA_AG said:‘The Rings of Power’ Showrunners: Sauron Will Be Like Walter White in Season 2 https://t.co/RxqtdgMubk
— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) October 14, 2022
Sauron is going to cook some meth
PatAg said:Definitely not on that level.ChipFTAC01 said:PatAg said:
It wasnt super subtle, but anyone catch the "follow your nose" line?
I caught it because they were being super unsubtle and could tell it was a reference to something but I don't remember.
I really hope this isn't akin to me forgetting "On your left" when it popped up in Endgame.
That guy did such a great job of sounding like McKellan's Gandalf when he was talking about banishing them to the shadow realm.
KCup17 said:
Who is to say that the Blue Wizards don't show up in a subsequent season? I'm totally fine with the stranger being Gandalf. After all the Istari were sent to Middle Earth to combat Sauron. So to me it wouldn't be a stretch to get an introduction to all of them throughout this series.
DVC2010 said:KCup17 said:
I'm only halfway through the season finale and haven't read anything from this board since I last posted but Halbrand and Sauron is a lock.
Edit: I don't think I need a spoiler tag for that as I haven't finished the episode?? but in my mind he is 100% a sneaky devil Morgoth servant.
The 100% tell was when he told Celebrimbor, "consider it a gift."
Halbrand=Sauron=Boromir=Mephisto confirmed.Brian Earl Spilner said:DVC2010 said:KCup17 said:
I'm only halfway through the season finale and haven't read anything from this board since I last posted but Halbrand and Sauron is a lock.
Edit: I don't think I need a spoiler tag for that as I haven't finished the episode?? but in my mind he is 100% a sneaky devil Morgoth servant.
The 100% tell was when he told Celebrimbor, "consider it a gift."