Now I guess I'm not so sure which character the series title refers to.

I can't wait to see Bridges put a bullet between the eyes of that snot-nosed CIA agent.

This series, especially this episode, asks a lot of questions about what it means to be a parent. That makes me believe even more in my theory about Emily's/Angela's true parentage.

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Now I guess I'm not so sure which character the series title refers to.
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This series, especially this episode, asks a lot of questions about what it means to be a parent. That makes me believe even more in my theory about Emily's/Angela's true parentage.

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I think Angela/Emily's true parentage has been fairly well telegraphed too.

Also too funny that Harper refers to Bote as the "old man".

I can suspend a lot of belief in the process of a good story...but like a lot of shows I think this one suffers from trying to be too tangled up and the story suffers.

The airplane dialogue - no way they would have that conversation in an unsecured place. They would definitely assume someone would be listening.

And unless Zoe turns out to be the Old Old Man's asset, her presence is way overdone. If they needed a vehicle for explaining the past, fine - but I agree with the others who feel she is a misfit.

I only watched half of last nights episode.

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Now I guess I'm not so sure which character the series title refers to.

I can't wait to see Bridges put a bullet between the eyes of that snot-nosed CIA agent.

This series, especially this episode, asks a lot of questions about what it means to be a parent. That makes me believe even more in my theory about Emily's/Angela's true parentage.

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Isn't the old man referring to joel grey?

Zoe totally has to be a plant from Botes. Guess we'll see soon enough, depending on how they end the season next week.

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I really like the show. And I like Zoe's role. It's a really good story if you don't try to over analyze or over think it.

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This, aside from a few things, I'm thoroughly enjoying it. Glad I am not cursed with a hyper left-brain and am able to enjoy art work that isn't 100% perfect and in-line.

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Zoe totally has to be a plant from Botes. Guess we'll see soon enough, depending on how they end the season next week.

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What if she was tasked with keeping him at the inn so that he could be easily killed. And shocked when he was able to fight off his would be killers/captors? She totally could be a CIA asset who is just acting and using the same tactics Jeff Bridges thinks he's teaching her…I.e how to spot peoples weaknesses and vulnerabilities and capitalize on them. Prob not the case and I'm trying to think of anything I may have missed that would shoot this theory down, but it would be an interesting twist.

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I really like the show. And I like Zoe's role. It's a really good story if you don't try to over analyze or over think it.

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Yeah I'm thinking season 2 should just be about how Zoe is now empowered and what she does with half of Chase's I'll-gotten gains.

Besides paying her kid's tuition of course.

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Cromagnum said:

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Zoe totally has to be a plant from Botes. Guess we'll see soon enough, depending on how they end the season next week.

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What if she was tasked with keeping him at the inn so that he could be easily killed. And shocked when he was able to fight off his would be killers/captors? She totally could be a CIA asset who is just acting and using the same tactics Jeff Bridges thinks he's teaching her…I.e how to spot peoples weaknesses and vulnerabilities and capitalize on them. Prob not the case and I'm trying to think of anything I may have missed that would shoot this theory down, but it would be an interesting twist.

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One thing that possibly undermines this theory is you would expect that, with their connections, one of the other characters (Lithgow, Bridges' daughter, Hamzid's attorney) would either know that or have suspicions about her.

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I think she's Hazmad's biological daughter

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I agree, and I think Angela's kidnapping is a ruse to help her real dad kill her two fake dads. I am not spoiler tagging because this is purely a guess.

Also how would they know where Chase was going to run to? They just happened to insert her at the one place he headed for?

I had speculated that annoying FBI agent is Hamzad's son or heir.

When he arrived he did say he thought the rest of the property was unoccupied. Then she asked if it was a problem and he was forced to say "no, it's fine".

As far as how would they know where he was headed - they use "magical intelligence powers" all the time in these shows.

Put me in the camp that Angela/Emily is the warlord's daughter...though I didn't consider she was in cahoots with him...but that seems a good possibility.

I don't think Zoe is a cia asset but I do think Dan purposely chose her. The property vacancy was a ruse for him. She "looks" like his wife from afar, if you'd never met her in person. He needs a "wife" to pull off his plan. She's vulnerable and broke. Perfect choice. IMO.

That's interesting.

He needs a "wife" to seem legit. A single man his age skulking around is creepy. She legitimatizes him. I got that vibe episode before last when she joins him on the airplane. She's been wealthy and knows how to play the part. I could be wrong. He could've been duped

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He needs a "wife" to seem legit. A single man his age skulking around is creepy. She legitimatizes him. I got that vibe episode before last when she joins him on the airplane. She's been wealthy and knows how to play the part. I could be wrong. He could've been duped

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I don't know if he planned that from the very beginning, but I agree its probably occurred to him at some point and that's why he's still lugging her around. And if it hasn't then he's a pisspoor CIA agent and its poor writing.

That was it? Is there going to another season? That was one big bag of meh.

Yes. There's another season.

Wow, I did not see that coming. It'll be interesting to see where the story goes from here.

Bit of a dud abrupt ending for me.

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I feel they shot their wad in the first episode and they never got close to matching it. Overall I give it a B minus…good performances but they needed a much bigger finale than that.

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Exactly how I feel. It never did live up to the expectations from the first episode, and I was a bit disappointed with a cliffhanger ending. I guess I'll watch season 2, but I won't be waiting in anticipation.

I knew Emily/Angela was Hamzad's daughter, but I figured Abbey was pregnant when she fled. When she arrives at Hamzad's compound and gets out of the car, does the hate in her eyes remind anyone of "Afghan Girl" from the Nat Geo cover?

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Also how would they know where Chase was going to run to? They just happened to insert her at the one place he headed for?

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Yep, true...feel like an idiot here. That easily shoots it down.

I thought it was known Emily was alive when they ran? In one of the first flashback scenes you can see her mom holding her in the background.

Strong start and fizzled like crazy. Too much Zoe, who ultimately was nothing but filler and not critical to the outcome at all. And one could see the possibility of Emily being Faraz Hamzad's kid coming from a mile away. The whole season built up to this being a "Wow" moment and there was nothing surprising about it