TCTTS said:
Ok... so, taking Jokershady's awesome theory into account, and the ensuing discussion of it, along with the current Episode IX rumors, here's what I'm thinking would make the most sense, satisfy certain loose ends, and still remain true to the already established themes of TFA and TLJ. If I were Abrams, this would be my take...
- Darth Plagueis created Anakin. If that's not fact already, make it so. Plagueis picked some random woman on Tatooine and somehow incepted her with midi-chlorians or whatever. However he did it, this would be the first time in the galaxy's history that someone figured out how to create actual life with The Force. As laid out by Flashdiaz, this would also now make the Skywalker blood a basterdization (purposeful misspelling so as to not be censored) of The Force.
- Plagues was murdered, perhaps by Palpatine, his apprentice. However, Plagueis not only learned how to "keep the ones he cared about from dying," he learned how to keep even himself from dying. This is why Snoke looks the way he does, like a resurrected corpse. Snoke is Plagueis, Plagueis is Snoke. However, this process of resurrection took years, maybe even decades, and Plagueis/Snoke wasn't at full strength again, unable to reemerge and claim his rightful throne until Palpatine was defeated... by Plagueis' own creation.
- Plagueis then essentially got a do-over with Kylo, the grandson of his creation. Together, however, they needed to eliminate the son, "corrupted" by the light side of the Force, hence their pursuit of Luke.
- Kylo's big thematic push in TLJ is to "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to." So from a thematic standpoint, how do you challenge him in Episode IX? You don't let him kill the past. You make him face it. Kylo somehow learns that Snoke is Plagueis and that Plagueis created his grandfather. In other words, he learns that he killed the man who (essentially) created him. Maybe there's some record of this at Vader's fortress, maybe there's another character who emerges to tell the story, but as rumored, we see all of the above via flashbacks (even if only briefly). Kylo then has no choice but to face his past. His past literally flows through him. And in the end, his "redeeming" quality is that he ultimately "kills the past" by dying.
- Through all of this, Rey's existence is now given context. She was created by The Force (whether in birth or in childhood) to ultimately help Kylo fulfill his destiny... which is to "let" the past/himself die, to kill off the Skywalker bloodline once and for all, to balance out the equation. There's even some nice symmetry with Anakin being created on an outer-rim desert planet and The Force eventually willing Rey to one as well. Almost as if it has a sense of irony/symmetry/balance in its intentions. And this doesn't have to be explicit either. No one has to spell it out for her or the audience that the Force created her. It can basically be assumed. But if Abrams does want to make this explicit, he has plenty of Force ghosts who are now one with the Force and know of the Force's wants/needs/history/etc/that there can be a little info dump if necessary.
- IMO, this still wouldn't undercut the "nobody" theme established in TFA and TLJ, as the Force would have purposely gone out of its way to chose a nobody/non-Skywalker for its task. And in doing so, showed so many other "nobodies" (broom boy, etc) that it's not your bloodline that makes you great. Granted, Rey would still be "chosen" in this instance, which I kind of have an issue with, but as long the point is to essentially say, "You don't have to be a Skywalker to save the galaxy," I think I can be on board with that.
Thoughts? Yay? Nay? What am I missing?
Hey TCTTS....since you're closest to Hollywood, why not tweet this little gem to Mark Hamill.
He's about as loyal to fans as any star that currently exists....would be excellent if he actually had a comment
