New show should have no Targaryens, probably no dragons, no wall...but lots more Starks and dire wolves.

LOL, jk on that last part. We know they are too expensive

The interesting thing about this new show, if they stick with their own canon, is they can sort of do whatever they want. They came up with the night king, and possibly came up with how he was created. I don't know how much Martin has about this time period in his other sources outside the main books.

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The interesting thing about this new show, if they stick with their own canon, is they can sort of do whatever they want. They came up with the night king, and possibly came up with how he was created. I don't know how much Martin has about this time period in his other sources outside the main books.

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I don't think the creation of the Others in the books is as clear cut as the the Night King's origin is in the show. They just kind of show up from the Land of Always Winter during the Long Night.

My post above followed the show canon; in the books, the Children used the hammer of the waters against the First Men. The Long Night came later.

Right, I'm just saying they can do whatever they want.

Wonder if they come close to capturing the success of Game

See my topic above about A&M having the archives of author George R.R. Martin !

Good lord i tried to give 6 one more chance. Its so horrible i laughed when it was trying to be dramatic and grained when it was trying to be funny.

There is simply no way it was accidentally so cheap, awkward, poorly written, illogical, cheesy etc.

They must have gotten fed up with people criticizing their great work and just decided to say **** you to the fans.

I did notice a raven's crow sound snuck into the soundtrack as the dragon was sniffing danarys body. Ooooooohhh!

I'll always appreciate 7 good seasons, and just skip 8-4 and 8-6 and pretend they never happened if i ever watch again.

Speaking of the special effects GOT was notorious in the industry for wanting excellent (impossible) effects at bargain prices. They apparently burned through most of the industry in 8 seasons.

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Good lord i tried to give 6 one more chance. Its so horrible i laughed when it was trying to be dramatic and grained when it was trying to be funny.

There is simply no way it was accidentally so cheap, awkward, poorly written, illogical, cheesy etc.

They must have gotten fed up with people criticizing their great work and just decided to say **** you to the fans.

I did notice a raven's crow sound snuck into the soundtrack as the dragon was sniffing danarys body. Ooooooohhh!

I'll always appreciate 7 good seasons, and just skip 8-4 and 8-6 and pretend they never happened if i ever watch again.

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When Tyrion literally SAID the "fire and blood" line that Dany says to the people in Qarth, I almost fell off my couch rolling my eyes.

One of the most rudimentary principles of writing: show, don't tell.

That will not be an episode I revisit.

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At least they're better than 5, when they went all in on meaningless shock value by having Dany burn innocent civilians because she was mad at her boyfriend. And then, oh yea, she forgot all about that and loves Jon again in the finale!!!!

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How did Sam become Grand Maester in only a few weeks? He dropped out of The Citadel after a short period without completing his studies and the Grand Maester is supposed to be the most senior Maester in the Seven/Six Kingdoms. It seemed like a huge stretch for fan service.

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The same way that my grandfather entered WWII in Dec 1943 as a 1st Lt and was a Major by Feb of 1945.

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Your analogy doesn't really work when you consider maesters have to be masters of medicine, science, and many other mediums that you can't gain skills on the fly. Plus it isn't as if the maesters in Old Town were killed by Dany there were still plenty that would outrank Sam.

It's not a perfect analogy but it works well enough. The point being battlefield promotions have been a thing throughout history. Opa surely had plenty of officers/pilots more senior than him but whoever was calling the shot put their faith on his shoulders.

Regardless, the king makes the rules. If Bran/Tyrion want Sam, they get Sam. And discarding the traditional rules/norms of Westeros has been a constant theme since S1/Book 1.


Sam: Bran....er.sorry......your grace, shouldn't we consult with the Grand Maesters at the Citadel? That would be in keeping with traditions and norms.

Bran: So would not fathering children while either a Maester or Sworn Man of the Night's Watch, yet here we are.

Sam: Right. Your grace.

So i obviously missed this discussion but why is the 3 eyed raven next to Ned Stark in season 1

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Damn, I finally caught up on this thread.

A- Does being the 3ER incur longevity?

B- Grey Worm was so brutal during the sack of KL, then minutes later (to us) we see him escorting Tyrion to a possible trial. I actually expected him to impale on a spear whomever was chosen as the new king as payback but he truly became neutered. Did anyone else expect him to get some payback for the death of his queen?

C- Some supernatural power brought Jon back to life days after being stabbed. Did anyone else kind of expect same treatment for Dany? Or at least consider it?

I don't think Sam is grand maester, and I think the master assigned to the king is ever the head honcho anyways

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I don't think Sam is grand maester, and I think the master assigned to the king is ever the head honcho anyways

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it is clear he is Grand Maester. 1) He has a maester's chain 2) he has the grand maester robe 3) he is the king's maester

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a27533909/john-bradley-samwell-tarly-game-of-thrones-series-finale-reaction-interview/

Don't care to re-read all 400+ pages so DGAFIAP... but it is pretty cool that Brienne is Lord Commander and her relative Ser Duncan the Tall was too.

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So i obviously missed this discussion but why is the 3 eyed raven next to Ned Stark in season 1

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Oh wow.

its there. I zoomed in on my phone. It thought it may have been photoshopped but all of the ones that were hi res were the same. 3rd eye on the forehead like in the show.

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Dont sure real..

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Some supernatural power brought Jon back to life days after being stabbed. Did anyone else kind of expect same treatment for Dany? Or at least consider it?

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Insert writer photo with "we kind of forgot that was a thing"

Seriously, though, she had no red priest to resurrect her.

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Some supernatural power brought Jon back to life days after being stabbed. Did anyone else kind of expect same treatment for Dany? Or at least consider it?

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Insert writer photo with "we kind of forgot that was a thing"

Seriously, though, she had no red priest to resurrect her.

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That's why Drogon took her back to Essos. Lots of witches back in Essos.

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Dont sure real..

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Oh I know it's not real. Just an interesting take.

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dumbest thing on the internet today.

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Living in Seattle sure has made you cynical.

So are we now going to post ever scene and promotional material produced in eight seasons and act like all of it was pointing towards this ending we got?