that makes sense. Sorry, been years since I read/watched that.
omg, yes he did. The poisoner even said something along the lines of "the spider sends his regards."bobinator said:
Varys didn't have anything to do with the assassination attempt on Dany, that was done by King Robert.
Yes. Jorah was informing on Dany to Varys on behalf of Robert. Robert ordered the assasination, and Varys commissoned it. All of that was in exchange for Jorah being exonerated.bobinator said:
Yeah, you're right, just rewatched that scene. But it was on direct orders from Robert right? Because later Ned gets him to withdraw the order and Varys says its too late or something along those lines?
Ok, sorry. It was the kid, but he was a part of the attempt. The point is; Varys tried to poison Dany before. C'mon guys. loldlance said:The kid who handed Jorah his pardon from Robert said that...not the wineseller. Same episode, wrong person.M.C. Swag said:omg, yes he did. The poisoner even said something along the lines of "the spider sends his regards."bobinator said:
Varys didn't have anything to do with the assassination attempt on Dany, that was done by King Robert.
lmao ffs. no. Some of you guys love to latch onto obvious stuff and try to twist it in some complex ways. That 20 second scene with the serving girl was just trying to make it clear to everyone that Varys was off the Dany bandwagon and it was a subtle hint of a poison attempt. Which is a blatantly obvious call back to the poisoner HE SENT (wgaf if Robert ordered it) to kill Dany in S1 and to Ned's line about 'poison being the weapon of a woman, coward, and eunuch.bobinator said:
You don't think that's a noteworthy difference?
(It probably isn't really since Varys is dead now anyway, but just seems like a distinction worth noting.)
If you use 100% emotion, I can see loving it. I need logical consistency with my emotional scenes.Great Beard of Zeus said:
Text I sent my brother (who is a hater of this season) after the last episode:
You can't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Awesome moments outside the battles and your yeeting of Kaiburn:
Moment in tent with tyrion and Jamie,bro love. both characters full arc imo
Cersei and Jamie dying together. Nice touch.
Mountain and hound dying together in fire by hound's blinded bull rush through crumbling red keep (where both spent most of their adult lives)
Euron getting ****ing destroyed after destroying dragonstone...by drogon. Then meeting Jamie and the two Cersei suitors dueling it out. Thinks he killed Jamie, didn't. Dies delusional and kind of self grandiosing. ironically does trying to convince himself he's famous for killing Jamie although no one will ever know, and he didn't actually kill him.
Cersei staring into hopelessness all episode saying the keep has never fallen. Then it does. And she is blinded by rage.
Dany going rogue obvi, fulfilling fathers rage.
The hound finally convincing arya that she has more to live for than revenge (still some foreshadowing going on even in second to last episode in my opinion)
Dude that whole episode was so rich it is telling of the people who hated it.
Varys was only trying to protect Viserys. He never cared for Dany until way later.Chalupa Batman said:
Also in one of Tyrion's first conversations with Dany, Varys gets brought up and she says something along the lines that he tried to kill me and Tyrion said he probably also helped her escape many of the attempted assassinations
Nice!!!Great Beard of Zeus said:
I think this whole episode would have been better as a book than the show. For sure.
M.C. Swag said:Varys was only trying to protect Viserys. He never cared for Dany until way later.Chalupa Batman said:
Also in one of Tyrion's first conversations with Dany, Varys gets brought up and she says something along the lines that he tried to kill me and Tyrion said he probably also helped her escape many of the attempted assassinations
They were just talking about Dany's marriage to Khal Drogo. They wanted to hurry up her pregnancy so that Khal would be willing to cross the sea with his army ASAP (to support Viserys).Social Media Influencer said:What was his season 1 meeting with Illyrio about? All we or Arya overheard was Varys telling Illyrio something about the wolf and the lion, but Varys had to be plotting with him.M.C. Swag said:Varys was only trying to protect Viserys. He never cared for Dany until way later.Chalupa Batman said:
Also in one of Tyrion's first conversations with Dany, Varys gets brought up and she says something along the lines that he tried to kill me and Tyrion said he probably also helped her escape many of the attempted assassinations
Maybe this is how the writing sessions go. Explains a lot.PeekingDuck said:
I guess it makes sense that this thread's progression mirrors the show.
The horse WAS dead, Bran raised it, Bran = NK confirmed.dromo07 said:
The horse clearly forgot it was dead!
Urban Ag said:Tried before? It's been awhile but I thought Varys was playing the part for Robert, acting like he was trying to carry out orders to have Dany killed, but was actually feeding Jorah info to keep her alive. In other words, Varys sets up the assassin to poison her, to placate Robert, but informs Jorah so ensure it doesn't happen. IIRC.M.C. Swag said:
It was poisoning. Not complicated at all. He tried to poison her before and he's trying to do it again now. That's all that convo was hinting at.
Regardless.....I just walked in the other room and fired up the DVR.
Agreed Varys was trying to poison her in last episode. Otherwise the talk about her not eating and trying again doesn't make sense unless he was simply concerned about her not eating, which also doesn't make sense considering he was already committing treason at that point, unless he was just concerned about PMS + Crazy + Hangry = higher chance of firebombing civilians at KL.
Next, she hasn't been poisoned. She looks like crap because she is mourning, isn't eating, isn't sleeping.
Harry Strickland is sitting on his horse when Drogon blow the gates apart. The horse rears up, he's thrown. The horse clearly dies.
There are white horse all over the place. Many Dothraki have them. Surely there are more within the walls og KL.
If they used the same horse for the final Arya scene, that Strickland was on, it was surely nothing more than out of convenience.
And Arya is clearly alive and well in the trailer.
/none of the above was meant specifically for you other than the question about Varys attempting to poison Dany in S1.
the horse was playing possum.bobinator said:
It is great that this thread has literally moved onto deciding if a horse is dead or not. I'm here for it.
FWIW I don't think that horse is clearly dead in that scene. I think he was blown over and he's like 'you know what, my rider got thrown, I'm just gonna lay here a bit and pretend I'm dead and see how this plays out.'
Rosebud.Zombie Jon Snow said:CE Lounge Lizzard said:
The ending is an autistic Bran playing with a snow globe with a replica of Winterfell at his home in South Boston.
Dany's rampage would look tame compared to mine. I'd burn HBO to the ground and everyone in it.