wangus12 said:

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Aggie_2463 said:

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I'm sure it has been discussed but ... is Arya dead? That white horse looked like the leader of the golden company's horse.

I had that thought but brushed it off when I realized GOT has never shown a character in purgatory or on the other side of death, have they?

Is she alive or dead?

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Pretty sure the leader's horse got killed by Drogon

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That's what I meant. The leader's horse was killed, and if that was him, then Arya would be dead as well.

Nah

I can see it both ways. A well thought out story line of Bran guiding the horse there that is revealed, or they just wanted her on a white horse so they figured, well give the GC leader a horse and have it show up beat up at the end for Arya and everyone will just assume it ran around in the chaos and she found it.

We know that Bran had a vision of the dragon over KL, so it's certainly possible that he knows what's happening and warged into the horse.

That said, if it is the case, it's annoying that spoiler guy (Aggie Hunting) posted it immediately after the episode and pretended to pass it off as his brilliant theory.

saltydog13 said:

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It was Shadowfax as said earlier in the thread

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Haven't read the whole thread - who/what is Shadowfax? Don't want to google something and see a spoiler

lmao

M.C. Swag said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Why would the GC leaders horse appear there - middle of the city - for Arya when he was outside the gates.

Seems like the GC guys horse would not know Arya and if anything would appear for his owner?

I mean I get the idea that she is death - but does the horse know that he's never met her.

I think people put too much thought into that

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lol this is an incredible post

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dlance said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Why would the GC leaders horse appear there - middle of the city - for Arya when he was outside the gates.

Seems like the GC guys horse would not know Arya and if anything would appear for his owner?

I mean I get the idea that she is death - but does the horse know that he's never met her.

I think people put too much thought into that - given everything else we've seen my bet is the producers were like... it'd be cool if she rode off on a horse. Done.

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If that is the case, then it again was laziness because the horse Arya rode off on is the same horse Harry Strickland was riding. Ozzyman or Alt-Shift-X (can't remember which) put side by side stills up and it is the same horse with the same bridle.

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Well..... or maybe once his rider was dead he rode off.

Harry Strickland was on foot when he died by the way. Grey Worm speared him from the back.



I'm gonna assume the horse ran off.... he is not anywhere near hm they panned completely around him. He then gets up and runs before Grey Worm spears him.

So does anyone think this theory that Dany is already poisoned makes sense? Not sure I like that ending - was hoping to see her go out in a bigger death - but then again I was saying the same thing about Cersei and ended up being fine with it. If Dany is already dying and Cersei and Euron are already dead, then what drama do we have left?

I'm so confused.

Is it possible it is Strickland's horse AND Arya and the horse are both NOT dead?

Or is that too simple for everybody?

Some big revelation of what Bran has been doing maybe?

I was just being a smartass

Horses run anywhere when spooked. Who's to say it wouldn't eventually end up in the city with all the enemy horses running in and fire all around?

Smart ass maybe, but that kind of made sense to me.....ha. Need more coffee

Yes it's possible the horse simply ran off after the blast when Strickland was knocked off. Of course the horse would have then had to choose to run INTO a burning hole in a wall and into a war zone in the city instead of running off into the great wide open but..... sure it is possible.

not even being facetious here - it's possible the writers are that simple minded.

There are only 2 possibilities though given that it is the same horse:
1. both dead - and this has some deeper meaning they elected not to show us
2. both alive - and supposed to be completely random

Phrasing said:

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So does anyone think this theory that Dany is already poisoned makes sense? Not sure I like that ending - was hoping to see her go out in a bigger death - but then again I was saying the same thing about Cersei and ended up being fine with it. If Dany is already dying and Cersei and Euron are already dead, then what drama do we have left?

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I don't buy it. She looked terrible when she wasn't eating. Then she looked better on the dragon. If she was poisoned she would look even worse in the last shot we see her face.

CE Lounge Lizzard said:

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Phrasing said:

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saltydog13 said:

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It was Shadowfax as said earlier in the thread

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Haven't read the whole thread - who/what is Shadowfax? Don't want to google something and see a spoiler

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King of Horses that Galdalf rode in Lord of the Rings.

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haha! thx. I never watched LOTR - and to be honest, have never been a big fan of fantasy until this show. Whenever someone says - I can't watch GOT - I hate fantasty, I always tell them I was never a fan either, but this show transcends that.

Texaggie7nine said:

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Phrasing said:

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So does anyone think this theory that Dany is already poisoned makes sense? Not sure I like that ending - was hoping to see her go out in a bigger death - but then again I was saying the same thing about Cersei and ended up being fine with it. If Dany is already dying and Cersei and Euron are already dead, then what drama do we have left?

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I don't buy it. She looked terrible when she wasn't eating. Then she looked better on the dragon. If she was poisoned she would look even worse in the last shot we see her face.

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Don't buy it either.

Every poison we have seen in this show works pretty quick. yes, there could be another one out there that works a slow death, but why would Varys use that kind of poison and not just get it over quickly so she didn't have time to burn the city.

Also, if she did die and turn the throne over to Jon, would anyone really trust another Targ at this point? I'm pretty sure she wants Jon dead anyway since he has the better claim.

The leader of the Gold Company wasnt on his horse when Drogon started napalming everyone. I think it is his horse.

saltydog13 said:

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Some big revelation of what Bran has been doing maybe?

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He was phoning a friend. Howland Reed should be here any minute to sort things out.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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This panning shot around Strickland to the cavalry charge was a great callback to BoB. (Another Sapochnik-directed battle.)



Speaking of which, as much as I've enjoyed Seasons 7-8, I don't think any battle in these seasons has come close to matching this one moment from Battle of the *******s, for me.

The feeling of impending doom for Jon Snow, the climactic nature of it, the music swelling, just everything about it is perfect.

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For a split second I thought "they aren't going to have him stand off the whole charge like Jon, are they?" Subtle nod to the kind of person Jon is

Phrasing said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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Phrasing said:

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So does anyone think this theory that Dany is already poisoned makes sense? Not sure I like that ending - was hoping to see her go out in a bigger death - but then again I was saying the same thing about Cersei and ended up being fine with it. If Dany is already dying and Cersei and Euron are already dead, then what drama do we have left?

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I don't buy it. She looked terrible when she wasn't eating. Then she looked better on the dragon. If she was poisoned she would look even worse in the last shot we see her face.

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Don't buy it either.

Every poison we have seen in this show works pretty quick. yes, there could be another one out there that works a slow death, but why would Varys use that kind of poison and not just get it over quickly so she didn't have time to burn the city.

Also, if she did die and turn the throne over to Jon, would anyone really trust another Targ at this point? I'm pretty sure she wants Jon dead anyway since he has the better claim.

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Just on her appearance... she looked terrible in the cave of DS for sure. Very gaunt.

But to me on the dragon she still doesn't look "great". Ignore the soot but her eyes still look sullen and she looks pale. She used to look glowing all the time really - i mean maybe a few weeks n the bleak winter north can do that but....

I'm not totally buying the poisoning, but given the writers and GRRM I don't totally discount it at this point.

She would have been right then about Varys and others in the West always wanting to kill her and never accept her. If so - it works for their shock value of the show both in what she did and what would be yet to come in the reveal.

Is that "bittersweet"????

anyway here she is in the cave and on Drogon






compared to the last time she was in WF before she left

M.C. Swag said:

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This thread is quite literally beating a dead (maybe) horse

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lmao

seeing as how i brought up beating a dead horse yesterday - i applaud you sir.