This season of GoT is like when you run out of time on an exam and just mark the rest of the answers 'B' on your scantron.

yeah, i took the Drogon strategy to be the very high and fast dive, along with some serious speed as he cut between the ships. Became a much more difficult target than just some dragons chilling along at the speed of some accompanying ships.

I feel a little like Jon Snow right now. Any chance both sides can voice their approval and disapproval without insulting each other?

aTmAg said:

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G Martin 87 said:

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The Dog Lord said:

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Old Tom Morris said:

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Some of you thinking her split personality flipped in an instant need to step back and look at some of the themes that have happened with her from the beginning of the series. There is a clear path to the possibility of this happening. I just think the rushed ending of the past couple of seasons robbed us of seeing the transition done more smoothly.

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A lot of the events that people try to use to point it out, like burning the Tarlys, aren't very convincing though. She gave them a chance to surrender.

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Until Cersei had Missandei beheaded, Jon and Varys and Tyrion all betrayed her, and she realized finally that she was utterly alone and unloved. Did not need 3 more episodes to establish that.

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Boo the F hoo. None of that comes close to explaining her sudden change. Might as well have her stub her step on a lego and then turn into Hitler. At least that makes a little more sense.

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She was crazy all along. You know this.

aTmAg said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Right now on first take from a writing point of view - motivation,etc... the only part I have an issue with is Cersei and Jamie. Making that the true love story of GOT and trying to make me have ANY sympathy for them was blech vomit....F them. And F you for trying D&D.

For The Hound... I'm ok with it. Couldn't kill The Mountain any other way it seemed. Bravo Sandor Clegane.

The Grey Worm anger and rage I get and Dany's turn I mean honestly that's been foreshadowed and warned and building for 7 seasons. That's justified in her story and arc anway. Surprised they went full mad queen but it was always there and always possible You can't say that was out of the blue.

This won't be popular and for that I actually kind of applaud them.

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It wasn't always there. They have been talking as if it was always there without any real basis other than "her dad was mad". Nothing she did prior to this episode earned her the "mad" title.

And I thought the Star Wars prequels did a pathetic job of explaining how Anikin turned dark. GoT put that crappy ass writing to shame. The bells started ringing and she literally decided.. "well I'm going to give insanity a shot."

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It was always there - she always resorted to ignoring advice and torching everyone. ALWAYS


1. walked into a burning fire pit and walked out with 3 dragons

2. went into the house of the undying alone to rescue her dragons and burned the guy alive

3. Traded for the Unsullied and then Dracarys-ed the slave trader and then ordered the unsullied to kill the rest

4. Walked alone into the Khal temple and killed them all with fire and walked out

5. Under attack in an assassination attempt in the dragon pit she mounted the dragon, torched people and flew off.

6. Returned to Mereen amidst an assault and unleashed Drogon on the ships and slayed the masters and loosed the dothraki on the harpy's

Anyone think for a second they were going to show some chain reactions of the wildfire barrels going off, I thought I saw some green explosions near the end. Around when Jon ordered his men out of the city.

Well, she is a woman

By the way, how about all that wildfire?

aTmAg said:

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G Martin 87 said:

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The Dog Lord said:

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Old Tom Morris said:

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Some of you thinking her split personality flipped in an instant need to step back and look at some of the themes that have happened with her from the beginning of the series. There is a clear path to the possibility of this happening. I just think the rushed ending of the past couple of seasons robbed us of seeing the transition done more smoothly.

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A lot of the events that people try to use to point it out, like burning the Tarlys, aren't very convincing though. She gave them a chance to surrender.

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Until Cersei had Missandei beheaded, Jon and Varys and Tyrion all betrayed her, and she realized finally that she was utterly alone and unloved. Did not need 3 more episodes to establish that.

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Boo the F hoo. None of that comes close to explaining her sudden change. Might as well have her stub her toe on a lego and then turn into Hitler. At least that makes a little more sense.

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I am loving your melt down even more than I loved that episode!!!

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Charlie Kelley said:

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If you think this season is good, you're a simpleton who is entertained by bright lights and loud noises.

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I loved this episode and it redeemed the season. Full stop.

Those who didn't like it are just hurt that their ridiculously simplistic happy ending didnt and couldn't happen the way they wanted it to.

I laugh at your sad attempt to criticize those of us who think this is exactly the way the show should end. Dark. Insane. Total GRRM. 100%.

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Not mad and not expecting a happy ending with dany and Jon riding off into the sunset making love on a dragon. My main complaint would be the rush to finish like others have stated. It seems to me like the writers spent more time on cool, but Pointless, action shots; rather then telling the story.

That's just my opinion, I'll leave the bickering to others.

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Even the wife thought this was a bad episode, and she's a casual watcher. **** story telling when you're getting pulled out of the action asking "Why would the character do that?"

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Why do mad people do what they do?

Well if we knew the answer to that they wouldn't be mad!

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7+ seasons of character arc building, motivations, etc

Season 8: duuuur now she goes mad

Don't get me started on other characters we talked about

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She sees the writing on the wall that she's feared, in Westeros, not loved. Her best friend was beheaded in front of her. None of that would cause her to freak out in any kind of way.

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- "If it weren't for you, I never would've survived my childhood."
- "You would have."
- "You were the only one who didn't treat me like a monster. You were all I had."

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Manly tears at this scene.

Sincere question:

(As someone who doesn't follow the things behind the show)

Why are they in such a rush to wrap this up? Why end the show this season-or in 6 episodes?

Let's all do our best to not attack each other over liking or not liking the episode/season. Clearly there is no reasoning either way.

WestAustinAg said:

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aTmAg said:

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G Martin 87 said:

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The Dog Lord said:

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Old Tom Morris said:

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Some of you thinking her split personality flipped in an instant need to step back and look at some of the themes that have happened with her from the beginning of the series. There is a clear path to the possibility of this happening. I just think the rushed ending of the past couple of seasons robbed us of seeing the transition done more smoothly.

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A lot of the events that people try to use to point it out, like burning the Tarlys, aren't very convincing though. She gave them a chance to surrender.

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Until Cersei had Missandei beheaded, Jon and Varys and Tyrion all betrayed her, and she realized finally that she was utterly alone and unloved. Did not need 3 more episodes to establish that.

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Boo the F hoo. None of that comes close to explaining her sudden change. Might as well have her stub her step on a lego and then turn into Hitler. At least that makes a little more sense.

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She was crazy all along. You know this.

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No, we don't. NOTHING she did prior to hearing those bells was remotely crazy.

It would literally be like Indiana Jones deciding to use the Ark to take over the world at the end of Raiders. That level of stupidity.

We should all just be content that at least they finally had a battle we could see clearly!

Memphis 7 said:

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Sincere question:

(As someone who doesn't follow the things behind the show)

Why are they in such a rush to wrap this up? Why end the show this season-or in 6 episodes?

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I have a theory it has to do with them being offered Star Wars.

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D&D just said on the Inside the Episode that she hadn't decided to do this until sitting there and seeing the Red Keep. Then she decided to make it personal. Okay...

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They are full of caca de merde.

GRRM built the foundation, walls and put the roof up.










Those two picked out the curtains.

PatAg said:

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The Dog Lord said:

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D&D just said on the Inside the Episode that she hadn't decided to do this until sitting there and seeing the Red Keep. Then she decided to make it personal. Okay...

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Did he really say that?

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Said she saw the Red Keep as a symbol of everything that was taken from her, and that is when she decides to make it personal. They also said that even there is a chilling aspect to how she reacts to the death of her enemies (like Viserys), we likely wouldn't have seen this side of Dany without these most recent events (death of Missandei and Jon's parentage coming to light).

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Old Tom Morris said:

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Two rushed seasons cost us effectively telling the story of Dany losing her ***** Which has blown the story.

I could buy her backing into a corner, slowly losing it, and deciding fear was her way to ruling and keeping the throne. But they didn't do a good job of building it.

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I don't think so..... she did everything she could to NOT go this way since coming to Westeros. She did what Tyrion, wanted what Jon wanted, etc etc.....

And for the last 2 seasons she has had her ass handed to her repeatedly because of the advice and actions of others and ultimately lost 75% of her army and 2 dragons and

And if you look back. In EVERY critical situation for Dany in the entire series..... in the end she gets her way by ignoring any advice (from Jorah, Missandei, Grey Worm, Tyrion) to do it nice and just BURNING **** UP.


1. walked into a burning fire pyre and walked out with 3 dragons

2. went into the house of the undying alone to rescue her dragons and burned the guy alive

3. Traded for the Unsullied and then Dracarys-ed the slave trader and then ordered the unsullied to kill the rest

4. Walked alone into the Khal temple and killed them all with fire and walked out

5. Under attack in an assassination attempt in the dragon pit she mounted the dragon, torched people and flew off.

6. Returned to Mereen amidst an assault and unleashed Drogon on the ships and slayed the masters and loosed the dothraki on the harpy's

It's ALWAYS been her answer.

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Bravo! ZJS gets it. Don't know why so many others didn't see it coming,

The whole Varys execution scene was awesome. His moment with Tyrion and then the dragon popping up behind Dany.

this episode was AMAZINGLY better than any other episode this season. I am so happy, sucks to be those of you who are big mad online about it.