Hey, leave Rocket out of this
If anything, the treatment of the characters in this episode makes me more inclined to think we're not going to get a happy ending.bonfarr said:
I'm going to laugh hysterically at all the people that will be crying after the final episode because there was too much of a happy ending.
Insert ramsay Bolton you haven't been paying attention meme herebonfarr said:
I'm going to laugh hysterically at all the people that will be crying after the final episode because there was too much of a happy ending.
For the same reason that a little boy was "Lord Umber." Westeros has undergone a massive, continental civil war that cost a lot of lives. And war has costs at home too, not just on the battlefield. We first saw glimpses of that dynamic when Bran was left in charge of Winterfell. And there are only 3 episodes left to see if that crisis is resolved.Quote:
Why make her a 10 year old girl?
Lord Umber being in charge as a little boy was also stupid. In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.Social Media Influencer said:For the same reason that a little boy was "Lord Umber." Westeros has undergone a massive, continental civil war that cost a lot of lives. And war has costs at home too, not just on the battlefield. We first saw glimpses of that dynamic when Bran was left in charge of Winterfell. And there are only 3 episodes left to see if that crisis is resolved.Quote:
Why make her a 10 year old girl?
as I think more about it,bobinator said:If anything, the treatment of the characters in this episode makes me more inclined to think we're not going to get a happy ending.bonfarr said:
I'm going to laugh hysterically at all the people that will be crying after the final episode because there was too much of a happy ending.
They made it seem like a bunch of them were going to die, so they didn't, and now it seems like they're probably mostly safe...
Exactly. I think just about everyone was scared as hell when they saw the dead. And I think they've made a point to show that a characters arc isn't always linear. Theon for example back in S6 was able to finally snap out of it and rescue Sansa from Winterfell. The next season he chickens out of saving his sister from Euron and jumps overboard. Ultimately he dies in an act of bravery.bobinator said:
I disagree with you on this. He wants to be brave so he's standing with his brothers, and he's had some brave moments, but in the midst of that kind of overwhelming battle he couldn't handle it.
I actually like that because people have different reactions in those situations. Even the Hound panicked for a while.
M.C. Swag said:
lol And now you're whinging about whinging .Irony abounds.
(Also, way to just miss all the points with that last sentence.)
Bran was the acting Lord of Winterfell at the age of like 10 before Theon betrayed him.aTmAg said:Lord Umber being in charge as a little boy was also stupid. In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.Social Media Influencer said:For the same reason that a little boy was "Lord Umber." Westeros has undergone a massive, continental civil war that cost a lot of lives. And war has costs at home too, not just on the battlefield. We first saw glimpses of that dynamic when Bran was left in charge of Winterfell. And there are only 3 episodes left to see if that crisis is resolved.Quote:
Why make her a 10 year old girl?
Do you not see the flaw in that example?Quote:
In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.
That too was stupid. He had wise dudes all over the place that could have been his Regent.OldShadeOfBlue said:Bran was the acting Lord of Winterfell at the age of like 10 before Theon betrayed him.aTmAg said:Lord Umber being in charge as a little boy was also stupid. In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.Social Media Influencer said:For the same reason that a little boy was "Lord Umber." Westeros has undergone a massive, continental civil war that cost a lot of lives. And war has costs at home too, not just on the battlefield. We first saw glimpses of that dynamic when Bran was left in charge of Winterfell. And there are only 3 episodes left to see if that crisis is resolved.Quote:
Why make her a 10 year old girl?
If there really is nobody left in the house who can run the place over a 10 year old, then you appoint another ruling family. But the idea that every 70 year old man died in war is either 1) bogus or 2) terrible writing.Social Media Influencer said:Do you not see the flaw in that example?Quote:
In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.
Things happen in war. People die. No one has an inexhaustible supply of wise counselors and brave warriors. If you had watched any of the earlier seasons, you would have seen discussions about the casualties and losses.
If you want "reality," I'm sure you can rattle off all of the 19th Century noble houses of Europe that are still ruling their duchies, thanks to smart realistic planning.
aTmAg said:If there really is nobody left in the house who can run the place over a 10 year old, then you appoint another ruling family. But the idea that every 70 year old man died in war is either 1) bogus or 2) terrible writing.Social Media Influencer said:Do you not see the flaw in that example?Quote:
In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.
Things happen in war. People die. No one has an inexhaustible supply of wise counselors and brave warriors. If you had watched any of the earlier seasons, you would have seen discussions about the casualties and losses.
If you want "reality," I'm sure you can rattle off all of the 19th Century noble houses of Europe that are still ruling their duchies, thanks to smart realistic planning.
Again, it didn't ruin the show/episode. I still gave it 4.5 stars out of 5.
aTmAg said:Lord Umber being in charge as a little boy was also stupid. In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.Social Media Influencer said:For the same reason that a little boy was "Lord Umber." Westeros has undergone a massive, continental civil war that cost a lot of lives. And war has costs at home too, not just on the battlefield. We first saw glimpses of that dynamic when Bran was left in charge of Winterfell. And there are only 3 episodes left to see if that crisis is resolved.Quote:
Why make her a 10 year old girl?
The point is, you never have a 10 year old in charge of actual decisions. That's what regents are for. King Henry the 6th was something like 8 days old when he became king. But he didn't actually run anything until he came of age. That's the way it supposed to work.Social Media Influencer said:
Like Rodrik Cassel? What ever happened to that dude? Or maybe Maester Luwin, he would have been good.
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aTmAg said:If there really is nobody left in the house who can run the place over a 10 year old, then you appoint another ruling family. But the idea that every 70 year old man died in war is either 1) bogus or 2) terrible writing.Social Media Influencer said:Do you not see the flaw in that example?Quote:
In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.
Things happen in war. People die. No one has an inexhaustible supply of wise counselors and brave warriors. If you had watched any of the earlier seasons, you would have seen discussions about the casualties and losses.
If you want "reality," I'm sure you can rattle off all of the 19th Century noble houses of Europe that are still ruling their duchies, thanks to smart realistic planning.
Again, it didn't ruin the show/episode. I still gave it 4.5 stars out of 5.
LMFAO It sure as hell doesn't get run by a 10 year old. I wouldn't let a 10 old drive my car, nevermind run a city. Again, that's what regents are for. I'm not making it up.bonfarr said:aTmAg said:If there really is nobody left in the house who can run the place over a 10 year old, then you appoint another ruling family. But the idea that every 70 year old man died in war is either 1) bogus or 2) terrible writing.Social Media Influencer said:Do you not see the flaw in that example?Quote:
In reality they would have had an experienced adult act as regent until they came of age. Just like Ned Stark was supposed to do with Joffrey.
Things happen in war. People die. No one has an inexhaustible supply of wise counselors and brave warriors. If you had watched any of the earlier seasons, you would have seen discussions about the casualties and losses.
If you want "reality," I'm sure you can rattle off all of the 19th Century noble houses of Europe that are still ruling their duchies, thanks to smart realistic planning.
Again, it didn't ruin the show/episode. I still gave it 4.5 stars out of 5.
Appoint another ruling family? LMFAO it doesn't work that way.
The fact that any of that happens is a flaw in the writing. I don't know who. Since Ned Stark was supposed to be Joffrey's regent (and Cersie stole that), I'm inclined too blame HBO.smokeythebear said:
It doesn't matter what you would do, it only matters what precedence the show sets. When Joffrey takes over the throne for himself and Bran is shown making decisions in Winterfell (with the advice of Maester Lewin) then it absolutely makes sense that young kids would be the head of their household in other houses.
Except that precedence was very clearly set by the books...aTmAg said:The fact that any of that happens is a flaw in the writing. I don't know who. Since Ned Stark was supposed to be Joffrey's regent (and Cersie stole that), I'm inclined too blame HBO.smokeythebear said:
It doesn't matter what you would do, it only matters what precedence the show sets. When Joffrey takes over the throne for himself and Bran is shown making decisions in Winterfell (with the advice of Maester Lewin) then it absolutely makes sense that young kids would be the head of their household in other houses.
Which character(s)?smokeythebear said:Except that precedence was very clearly set by the books...aTmAg said:The fact that any of that happens is a flaw in the writing. I don't know who. Since Ned Stark was supposed to be Joffrey's regent (and Cersie stole that), I'm inclined too blame HBO.smokeythebear said:
It doesn't matter what you would do, it only matters what precedence the show sets. When Joffrey takes over the throne for himself and Bran is shown making decisions in Winterfell (with the advice of Maester Lewin) then it absolutely makes sense that young kids would be the head of their household in other houses.