chase128 said:

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Looking to episode 4, how is Dany going to convince Jon (and the North) to ride south to KL and fight for the Iron Throne?
I would imagine anyone who survived that hellhole last week wouldn't want anything to do with KL.

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cbr said:

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In to say 'threads dead' - at least till Sunday.

Speculation, predictions, info from books, theories, that's all fine, but seems to have run it's course.

Idjits *****ing about dramatic dead giant killings or complaining about other bs is just a drag.

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Barbarossa said:

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I love the episode, but wholeheartedly agree with the take that all the redshirts die and none of the a-list players encounter any real danger. I noticed it last season during "Beyond the Wall" when the magnificent seven ride out and the only main person who dies was the cnut with the top-knot, Thoros... I figured they'd make up for that by needing everyone they could at the Battle of Winterfell, but the same thing happened. I thought I saw several characters die multiple times and then they came out unscathed, in the biggest battle of all time, with every no-name dying around them, and it seems out of place for a show that was so great at making every character surviving a battle feel like a blessing. Now if a character dies it's almost certainly to have them redeem themselves for past sins, giving them a happy ending in their own way.

At this point I think the show has used all of the suspenseful "anyone can die" good-will that it earned over the first 4-5 seasons... if there was a time to cash in on that, it was this episode. If by some chance they have a giant battle at King's Landing with drastic consequences I'll eat crow, but until then I'm just going to see this as an extremely well done show that's mostly going to stay within the tropes of usual television.

John and Danny work it out, Gendry and Arya get together long term, Sam and Gilly live happily ever after, Grey Worm and Missandei run away to start a new life, Sansa rules the North, Tyrion gets Casterly Rock, the Hound wins Cleganebowl, Brianne gets to serve an honorable king/queen, Jamie gets several pages of achievements in the White Book/Book of Brothers, Bran lives out his days as a mole man, Bronn gets his Castle, and Podrick runs a chain of successful brothels. Hell, maybe they can reanimate whatever's left of Hodor's corpse and have him keep Bran company like the scene in the end of Shaun of the Dead.

Also, I think that Arya's scene with the Knight King should have killed both of them. Like other posters have pointed out, you now have Arya killing the Knight King, Walder Frey, Meryn Trant, and Little Finger. How is she possibly going to top that? Cersei's on her list, but then it's basically the Arya Kills Everyone show, and she should be able to take out Cersei easily. They should have had the Knight King grab her by the throat and pull a throat rip while she stabbed him, so she goes out in style like Rambo/Patrick Swayze/McGruber AND pads out the main character death toll.

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claym711 said:

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I'm just disappointed we didn't see zombie Hodor or Zombie Ned

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Urban Ag said:

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Really? Even the Hound went in to shellshock. At one point Arya left the battle to compose herself and regroup.

Sam breaking down in the midst of utter chaos and despair doesn't seem like regression to me.

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WestAustinAg said:

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chase128 said:

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Looking to episode 4, how is Dany going to convince Jon (and the North) to ride south to KL and fight for the Iron Throne?
I would imagine anyone who survived that hellhole last week wouldn't want anything to do with KL.

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I think Cercei's army rides north and the engagement begins in ep 5.

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bobinator said:

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Tyrion did not really say he wanted to fight if I recall right, he just wanted to be out on the walls so he could see what was happening, maybe notice some kind of detail that could help the fight. For his character, not knowing what's happening and thus having no control over it is his worst fear.

I also think they did try and tell Sam to go to the crypts and he was like 'f y'all, I'm staying out here' and they were basically like 'fine, we're all going to die anyway.'

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bobinator said:

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I actually think the one person that could have turned the tide if they'd have died is Brienne.

Episode two was even titled 'A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms' and it REALLY felt like that was her story arc coming full circle.

I can't believe she didn't bite the dust after all of that in the second episode.

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Barbarossa said:

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Gendry and Arya get together long term

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bobinator said:

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I actually think mid-week is when these threads get better because a lot of the emotion from the first watch wears off.

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Social Media Influencer said:

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Again, no one is asking for Sam to become a sword wielding badass. Just don't show him regress to the sniveling character YOU showed he already grew from.

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You're inventing a new laundry list of absurdist nerd complaints every day.

You better have the vinegar all out of your system by Sunday.

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bobinator said:

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I guess the only one I've really participated in consistently was Westworld, and it seemed to kind of slow down midweek so you could have a decent discussion about some of the finer details of the episode and the theories about what was coming next.

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pete_claw98 said:

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Brienne should have died saving Jaime.

As he grabs Oathkeeper back, Viserion breathes fire and melts it to his gold hand. He then becomes a 2 sword wielding badass again and goes on a tear saving everybody else until the NK is killed.

This also brings those 2 swords back together!!!

Because a Lannister always pays their debts.

Too much?

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