Episode IV said:

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bonfarr said:

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Episode IV said:

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So... I am going to be in Mexico for Episode 3 Live-Air... is HBO available in Mexico? Can I stream HBO Now (I have a subscription) from Mexico?

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Yes but the broadcast will be in Espanol.

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Dubbed, already? Or subtitled?

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JUEGO DE TRONS
CHORRO EN ESPANOL

MuckRaker96 said:

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So here's my latest nerd problem with the last episode.
Tormund, Edd, and Beric get to Winterfell in the daytime with knowledge that the WW are 8-12 hours or so behind them. They know which direction they're coming from.

Why in Azor-Ahai's name would you not mount up your Dothraki screamers, give them dragonglass tipped arrows and send them out to scout the enemy numbers? If you see the dragon, you disperse in 100 different directions back to WF. Otherwise, you get true estimates of how many wights, how many giants, how many WW, etc., not to mention you launch a boatload of arrows into their ranks and thin them out before they get to your base? I hate being a book nerd right now.

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Maybe they needed every available man to shore up the defenses st Winterfell and get weapons ready.

But yeah, 1 huge battle at Winterfell is better TV than a bunch of skirmishes. I mean, this is known.

C@LAg said:

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agrams said:

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the more tactical approach imo would be the WW just conduct a seige of winterfell. hold off th4 dragons with your ice spears and starve them out.

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you wait for people to start dying inside the walls. Raise them from the dead. Let them slaughter people from inside the walls.

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The problem with this is that the defenders seem set on forcing an actual battle by sallying outside the walls

I haven't rewatched yet bc I haven't had time but I can't wait to. But watching that closing scene alone(before the Jon/dany scene) gives me chills every time.

Same here. Gonna rewatch Saturday, I think.

Sasappis said:

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How about this for a theory. Let me know if it has already been proposed.

The night king and his dragon are not at the battle of winterfell. There is a huge battle and many many are killed but not the NK. He takes his dragon and shows up in episode 4 in kings landing killing folks and creates a new army. Cersei and others escape the city and episode 5 and 6 are about the killing of Cersei and saving the kingdom.

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this but Cersei and her army become WWs. Arya kills Cersei. Makes for one last epic battle.

The crypts are large

Claude! said:

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bearamedic99 said:

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The crypts are large

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Don't forget safe.

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Haha

bearamedic99 said:

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The crypts are large

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Aren't they many levels too? Thought I saw that somewhere.

Sasappis said:

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How about this for a theory. Let me know if it has already been proposed.

The night king and his dragon are not at the battle of winterfell. There is a huge battle and many many are killed but not the NK. He takes his dragon and shows up in episode 4 in kings landing killing folks and creates a new army. Cersei and others escape the city and episode 5 and 6 are about the killing of Cersei and saving the kingdom.

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probably wrong, but either way i came up with this idea 20 pages ago

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The Dog Lord said:

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Edit to say that Urban Ag basically made the same points above.

Did she screw someone over on a business deal? Yes, but they were murderers and slavers that insulted her at each step of the deal. In terms of her "badness" this ranks pretty low. She also gave the other masters chances to avoid death when she began ruling Meereen.

Her brother wasn't just an a-hole either. He was threatening to kill her and her unborn child. He also mentioned in the past that he'd let all 40,000 of Drogo's men and their horses rape her to get his throne back. A blood tie wouldn't be the main thing on my mind if someone said that **** to me. Also, I doubt banishing him would do much besides make him even more desperate (and likely vengeful).

The Tarlys fought with honor, but Randyll Tarly is a cruel ******* that was going to kill his son if he didn't take the black. They also had the choice to bend the knee which probably wouldn't be an option if Dany was going full-on Mad Queen. The main issue that I think others had with this situation was that she burned them rather than behead them. They were probably dead almost instantly though. Also, as Sansa said last season, "so there's no punishment for treason and no reward for loyalty?"



Based on GRRM's approach, I wouldn't be surprised if Dany became a villain at the end, but I just don't think it's likely. I agree with others that there is likely a peaceful resolution to the Jon-Dany conflict (or a death that makes it moot).

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Why do you care so much? Being Dany's defense lawyer isn't going to mean a thing. The show is here for entertainment. They play with people's emotions..they want us to dislike her now.

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Why do you care that I care so much? Are you a ****ty DA trying to make a name for himself by putting an innocent hottie in jail?

Seriously though, I was just responding to another comment. Not trying to defend Dany, just pointing out that she arguably hasn't behaved like her father no matter what some claim.

bonfarr said:

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AG 2000' said:

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bonfarr said:

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I have jumped on the NK to KL theory over the last 36 hours. There will be a massive battle at Winterfell that ends in a victory for the living but at a heavy cost and they learn the only defeated half of the NK's force. The NK will burn KL to the ground with his dragon and the other half of his army and then pivot towards the North.

Tyrion, Sam, and Bran figure out how to defeat the NK and defeat him in episode 6.

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The other big battle episode is Ep.5 (Sapochnik directing), but otherwise a good theory.

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Perhaps what is left of the armies defending Winterfell regroups with reinforcements and make a stand in the Neck either at the Twins or Moat Cailin to halt the NK army's March North and that buys the Bran/Tyrion/Sam braintrust more time to plan and prepare like the Alamo did for Sam Houston.

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If the NK to KL scenario plays out, it would also make it easier for Nymeria and her wolf army to join a battle that would occur closer to the riverlands (assuming the survivors of the BoW march south).

Teddy Perkins said:

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bearamedic99 said:

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The crypts are large

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Aren't they many levels too? Thought I saw that somewhere.

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Yes. I believe the oldest crypts are the deepest which is kind of odd seeing as how they will run out eventually. I guess they could expand outward from the upper levels instead if the ground is frozen deeper down.

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DSAg44 said:

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this but Cersei and her army become WWs. Arya kills Cersei. Makes for one last epic battle.

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Cersei's death is not Arya's.

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Unless, of course, Jamie is killed in battle and Arya steals his face, gains entrance to Cersei and....boom - Cersei is killed by her "brother"!

Jumping around watching episodes tonight with my bottle of Jonny White Walker (waaaay too Smokey btw), but

Will we see ice spiders as big as hounds?

Do we get more animals turned wight like the bear?


Rewatching "Beyond the wall" the Night King turns the dragon just like he did the infants he was brought. That is, he actually puts his hand on him and *then* his eyes turn blue. Not sure how that changes things, but makes me think the revived dragon isn't a Wight.

I am convinced they blew the budget on the BoW. I bet we see some wight Giants and a mammoth or bear or a few of those. Wight bear last season was great. Doubtful on ice spiders as they haven't established them already and it would feel too Harry Potter.

My theory I have after rewatching and some reading.
I think the NK heads to KL. BoW is between the main heroes and the lieutenants of the NK. Good guys win, but suffer major losses, a Pyrrhic victory. I don't think the good guys think the Army of the dead is capable of "thought". While that's true for the rank and file, the NK and WWs are, so basically the BoW is the army of the dead staging their own holding action to either defeat or severely weaken really the only cohesive force that could stop them. NK is then turning KL into army of the dead 2.0 to finish off the rest of the world/what the original AoD started. Like someone else said, Bran camping out in the godswood
Is too simple of a plan. Maybe one of the WWs or a few come, but the NK won't be there. Good guys win, celebrate before they receive word all of KL is now dead and coming north. Survivors rally what they can from anyone not dead and set the stage for the finale.