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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Hold the door

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That's rough but doesn't hold a candle to Shireen unsuspectingly being burned alive by her own father. When she is walking out there holding that wooden Stag. Wow. I had to fast forward through that entire scene last night.

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I didn't watch it either last night while watching that episode.

I was like...nope. Already know what's going to happen. Don't want to see that **** again

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Yeah, toughest moment in the show.

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I've read people on here saying that season 5 is their least favorite, but is there a better group of three consecutive episodes than 5x8, 5x9, and 5x10? (where more stuff happens)

6x9 and 6x10 beats those 3 overall.

But, 5x8 and 5x10 are both fantastic.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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6x9 and 6x10 beats those 3 overall.

But, 5x8 and 5x10 are both fantastic.

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Actually, I was confusing 4x10 with 5x10. Mother's Mercy is still great, but I think The Children (4x10) is the better finale and probably the second best behind Winds of Winter.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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Underrated was The Mountain and The Viper. Incredibly cool fight scene and just a crushing amount of emotional swings in both directions. Oberyn is such a fantastic character in my opinion.

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x 100. This was the worst part of the series for me. The Red Wedding was shocking, but I thought Cat Stark was annoying and Robb Stark wasn't anywhere near my favorite character.

Oberyn was my guy. You understood his motivations, he was very interesting as a character, the character itself was hilarious and well-acted, and he was on deck to be the saving grace for one of the show's most liked, if not the most liked, characters. Then pop.

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Yea, it would have been like if Ramsay got Jon Snow with that last second arrow in the Winterfell Courtyard. A herculean undertaking in fighting off insane odds and right at the cusp of a true feel-good victory stolen away in a split second.

soon 14 april

Any good summary videos out there? Need a bit of a refresher before the 14th, but dont have time to rewatch everything.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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smokeythebear said:

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Underrated was The Mountain and The Viper. Incredibly cool fight scene and just a crushing amount of emotional swings in both directions. Oberyn is such a fantastic character in my opinion.

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x 100. This was the worst part of the series for me. The Red Wedding was shocking, but I thought Cat Stark was annoying and Robb Stark wasn't anywhere near my favorite character.

Oberyn was my guy. You understood his motivations, he was very interesting as a character, the character itself was hilarious and well-acted, and he was on deck to be the saving grace for one of the show's most liked, if not the most liked, characters. Then pop.

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Can't wait to see what Pedro Pascal does as "The Mandalorian"

I bet he's going to be a badass Mandalorian, based on his performance in Kingsman the golden circle

I'm in the middle of re-watching and watched this scene last night. When I watched it live the first time, the level of disdain from Tywin was lost on me. But seeing it all happen at a more accelerated pace, it seems baffling that Tywin has such drastic swings with Tyrion, especially from someone who is usually so cool and calculated.

1. Sends him to the vanguard to die with the hill tribes
2. Sends him to the Capital to be Hand of the King
3. Saves the city, gives Tyrion zero credit
4. Makes him Master of Coin
5. Agrees Joffrey needs to be disciplined
6. Forces him to marry Sansa
7. Sets up a farce of a trial, humiliates Tyrion because he's married to Sansa
8. Tries to send him to the wall (mostly just to trick Jaime into having a family), but is fine with ultimately letting him be killed by the Mountain

Tywin is an intriguing, if banal, character, and it seems as if the ONLY bit of nuance we see about him is this tiny but ferocious internal struggle not to hate Tyrion. If only Tywin could have gotten over his hatred for Tyrion, the two of them could have saved tens of thousands of lives by bringing peace and order to Westeros.

Also, how do we do the spoiler text?

smokeythebear said:

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Also, how do we do the spoiler text?

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Look here.

In general, if you ever want to see how somebody does any of the things beyond basic text, you can quote their post and see what they did.

For example, if you quote mine you can see how I:

spoiler tag

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And etc....

Also, love Tywin.

Saul Goodman said:

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He's the richest, smartest, most strategic, most powerful, most influential person in all of Westeros. And yet he's brought down, not by somebody besting him on any of the above, but because he couldn't simply love his own child. I love it.

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...and on the toilet, no less!

So where is everyone on their rewatch?

Watched 6x6 last night. Bit of a filler episode, but it was cool finally seeing the Tarly castle.

A well-deserved breather episode after the madness that was The Door.

Just finished 5:9. Watched Hardhome (5:8) and 5:9, which was Drogon saving Dany at the fighting pits, last night. Two outstanding episodes.

I rewatched the Nymeria Aya reunion episode last night. Do we think the show is done with her?

In regards to Tyrion....

This is more of a book reader theory but it was teased, IIRC, in the series. Going to tag it and would like opinions. Not really a spoiler, but could be.

In the books it's obvious and GRRM has stated as much, but the three main protagonists, POV characters, are Jon, Dany, and Tyrion. The show kind of got away from this in the development of Cersei and Jamie, which is great by the way, IMO. But since book one, it's really been the story of these three.

The symbol of House Targaryen is a three headed dragon. Dany had three dragons. Jon + Dany + Tyrion = 3. It's well known in the books that Tywin despised the Mad King. Hated him. It's hinted that the Mad King invoked some king's right and bedded Tywin's wife Joanna at some point. It's theorized based on that and some other conversations (I can't recall) that Tyrion may have been fathered by the Mad King. This also lends to Tywin's deep seated issues with Tyrion (that and Joanna died birthing Tyrion). Fan theory was that Tyrion is the third dragon, completing the three heads of the House Targaryen sigil.

Anyone think this old book reader theory still has wings? I tend not to considering one of the dragons is now a wight and also due to the diminished role Tyrion played in S7. But the three headed dragon symbolism, the three dragons themselves and the three primary POV characters, was a thing in the books. Just doesn't seem to be a thing in the series. Thoughts?

Done with Nymeria, Arya, or both?

Champ Bailey said:

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I rewatched the Nymeria Aya reunion episode last night. Do we think the show is done with her?

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I do. I think that was her sendoff.