***Agents of SHIELD Season 4***

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They mentioned that they wanted to tie in the zero-matter with something on AoS to make Agent Carter's story relevant in some capacity, but I don't remember reading much more than that from articles.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

They mentioned that they wanted to tie in the zero-matter with something on AoS to make Agent Carter's story relevant in some capacity, but I don't remember reading much more than that from articles.
i thought they said it tied into Dr strange, but maybe not
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MooreTrucker said:

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redline248 said:

How does a public shield in this show affect the mcu? Will they ignore it? I guess we don't have any cap or avengers movies anytime soon...


Public shield is a good excuse not to have Coulson as director. Hard to have a dead guy doing a press release.

Do we know who those ghost people are?
Aren't those the people from that Momentum place that were in those boxes in some kind of spirit form?

Who's the statue at the end of this last episode, that the bad woman calls "brother"?

Yeah, sorry. I meant to ask if they have a comic equivalent.
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the black around the eyes in May's nightmares looks a lot like the the bad guys in the Dr. Strange promos

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YellowPot_97 said:

the black around the eyes in May's nightmares looks a lot like the the bad guys in the Dr. Strange promos


Yeah, I thought the same thing. I wonder if the "alternative energy" was them tapping into another dimension or plane that we'll see in Dr. Strange.
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I feel the tie in coming on, and Ghost Rider is ****ing awesome.
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Give Ghostrider his own show dammit!

Also, great Simmons episodes!
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Ghostrider is the best thing about this season. I was a little hesitant before the season, but he's so much better than I was expecting.
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Also, thank god they didn't pull the trope of Simmons being upset with Fitz about lying. That's where Arrow went wrong in the last couple seasons with Felicity and made her character unbearable.
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TajMaballer said:

Give Ghostrider his own show dammit!

Also, great Simmons episodes!


Ghost Rider is one of Marvel's best characters. He's basically a supernatural and superpowered version of the Punisher. Though he would kill the Punisher outright if he ever saw him.

I agree he really needs his own show.
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texasaggie04 said:

MooreTrucker said:

texasaggie04 said:

redline248 said:

How does a public shield in this show affect the mcu? Will they ignore it? I guess we don't have any cap or avengers movies anytime soon...


Public shield is a good excuse not to have Coulson as director. Hard to have a dead guy doing a press release.

Do we know who those ghost people are?
Aren't those the people from that Momentum place that were in those boxes in some kind of spirit form?

Who's the statue at the end of this last episode, that the bad woman calls "brother"?

Yeah, sorry. I meant to ask if they have a comic equivalent.


No comic equivalent for the ghosts, but the Darkhold is a real thing in the comics.
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Can't agree enough with how awesome Ghost Rider is. "Time to pay for your sins" gave me a rush of adrenaline. I also laughed when he caught the chain and was all "huh."
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TajMaballer said:

Also, thank god they didn't pull the trope of Simmons being upset with Fitz about lying. That's where Arrow went wrong in the last couple seasons with Felicity and made her character unbearable.


This is also a bullseye
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This season has been so good that I've been looking at the clock on Tuesdays and making sure that the kids are in bed.

It's had two of my favorite lines in the entire series.

"You're an engineer, Mack. And a small tank"

And when they went through the wall into the fireworks store:

"You had to see that coming"

Both of those rank up there with "Who names these things?"
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Stupe said:

This season has been so good that I've been looking at the clock on Tuesdays and making sure that the kids are in bed.

It's had two of my favorite lines in the entire series.

"You're an engineer, Mack. And a small tank"

And when they went through the wall into the fireworks store:

"You had to see that coming"

Both of those rank up there with "Who names these things?"
Yep. This season has been really good. The inclusion of Ghost Rider has been phenomenal. I hope they really go into detail about who he is because the reality of Ghost Rider actually existing should terrify the crap out of everyone that knows about him and because he proves the existence of magical/supernatural that is not related to aliens.
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I hope they really go into detail about who he is because the reality of Ghost Rider actually existing should terrify the crap out of everyone that knows about him and because he proves the existence of magical/supernatural that is not related to aliens.
Seems like they will have to, since no one believes him when he says how he got his powers.
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Just came here to say that Ghost Rider has been an amazing addition to the show.
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Sentinel said:

Just came here to say that Ghost Rider has been an amazing addition to the show.


Ditto. I find myself in anticipation on Ghost going Ghost on some fools. Kinda wish he had taken on all the watchdogs and Quake and Fitz take out the Aussie. I really hope they give us some epic fights scenes with Ghost later in the season.

And I completely agree that Netflix should pick up Ghost Rider and make it a new series.
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Vande said:



Ghost Rider is one of Marvel's best characters. He's basically a supernatural and superpowered version of the Punisher. Though he would kill the Punisher outright if he ever saw him.


Wasn't there talk of the Punisher showing up in AOS?

Or am I just imagining that?
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Stupe said:

Vande said:



Ghost Rider is one of Marvel's best characters. He's basically a supernatural and superpowered version of the Punisher. Though he would kill the Punisher outright if he ever saw him.


Wasn't there talk of the Punisher showing up in AOS?

Or am I just imagining that?
Its a rumor. But it would probably be somewhere much further down the line.

http://collider.com/jon-bernthal-punisher-agents-of-shield-crossover/
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+1 on Ghost Rider, he has been way better than I expected. I totally geeked out when he caught the chain.
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One of the biggest faults (only fault?) of Marvel has been that the villains almost always have the same powers as the hero. This is why those villians that don't are the memorable ones (Loki / Thor, Fisk / DD, Murdercorpse / JJ). All that to say: when Ghost Rider went toe-to-toe with Aussie I was actually surprised how excited I was for that fight.


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Fight fire-with-fire. That's a saying.

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I agree, Ghost Rider is a great addition to the show and additionally to the team. He has even made Daisy/Quake even bearable with all her angst. I'm liking how they are not overdoing the Fitz/Simmons stuff both the love angle and the relationship in general.

Ada, The Ghosts, The Book, the Senator and whatever is in her living room will definitely make for great plots the rest of the season.

Great season so far. Can't wait till the next episode. Mack is also becoming one of my favs too.

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I was so worried about jumping the shark this season with the addition of ghost rider and the move to later in the night... but this has don far been an excellent and fun ride. Ghost rider has for sure been an awesome add, coming from someone who didn't think much about the character. The delivery of rider has been excellent, as many have said, goosebumps worthy.
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Old leather jacket, motorcycle parts, and carnival daredevil poster in the barn where they found the Darkhold...
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redline248 said:

TajMaballer said:

Also, thank god they didn't pull the trope of Simmons being upset with Fitz about lying. That's where Arrow went wrong in the last couple seasons with Felicity and made her character unbearable.


This is also a bullseye


Guess we celebrated a little early, here.
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At least they held it to one argument where they weren't on the verge of breaking up.

Also, while this week was really good (loved Daisy's fight), next week looks to be Ghostrider heavy!
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R0GUE said:

Old leather jacket, motorcycle parts, and carnival daredevil poster in the barn where they found the Darkhold...
I thought that I noticed that! I haven't had a chance to watch it again and we don't back up when we are watching an episode for the first time....unless it's a "what did they say?" moment.

I don't think that both of them could be in the series, though. Isn't there only one Ghost Rider?

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TajMaballer said:

At least they held it to one argument where they weren't on the verge of breaking up.

Also, while this week was really good (loved Daisy's fight), next week looks to be Ghostrider heavy!
Yep. There was no way that they could completely ignore it.
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Did anyone catch what the director was referencing when he said blue men in Wyoming & some other event (I am blanking). Was it some Easter egg for something else?
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Actually in the Robbie Reyes story, Johnny Blaze shows up, so there there is a way for Johnny Blaze to be in universe. They are possessed by different demons.
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aggie1906 said:

Did anyone catch what the director was referencing when he said blue men in Wyoming & some other event (I am blanking). Was it some Easter egg for something else?


Isn't Wyoming where Hive went and fought with the Kree?
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Small development with likely big implications is Simmons and the director both know the other is keeping secrets.
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Thought it was a good episode.

One thing I think this show has done really well is make you really dislike characters genuinely. I only want the worst for the senator. Haha.

Simmons really impressed me this episode. Anyone think she ends up as director this season for a little while?

With the exception of May and Coulson, I feel like everyone has improved as actors. The dude who plays Robbie Reyes is really good too.

Excited to see more Ghostrider!
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I am getting so tired of every superhero show going to the mopey, loner hero who pushes everyone away to *protect" them, only to have everyone get back together late in the season to defeat the bad guy.

That is a tired and lazy go-to trope, and shows the writers have no imagination.
 
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