***** Game of Thrones: Season 5 (TV SHOW ONLY) ***** [STAFF WARNING ON OP]

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In reply to Rocagnante • 6:16p, 6/16/15
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Can 3 dragons really beat that?


Yep!
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In reply to gigemags-99 • 6:17p, 6/16/15
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Can 3 dragons really beat that?


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In reply to 30_Days • 6:17p, 6/16/15
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She could rally them around the fact they have to save the Queen. Even though though she in effect put Marg there, no one else really knows that. Tommen thinks Sparrows trump his King. Cersei could convince him quite easily to take action.
that's what I'm thinking. She can be all "ra ra save the queen" knowing full well that Marg will be dead before they get to her. Then once they kill Marg it's gloves off, street running red with blood.


Please don't kill Margery GRRM!!!

I don't condone the torture by Annie in Misery...but I understand it now.
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In reply to Rocagnante • 6:19p, 6/16/15
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She could rally them around the fact they have to save the Queen. Even though though she in effect put Marg there, no one else really knows that. Tommen thinks Sparrows trump his King. Cersei could convince him quite easily to take action.
that's what I'm thinking. She can be all "ra ra save the queen" knowing full well that Marg will be dead before they get to her. Then once they kill Marg it's gloves off, street running red with blood.


So who then is left to fight? Everyone is killing each other off. Lannisters fighting common folk at KL is a lot of deaths. Stannis army gone. Wildlings almost gone. Boltons at Winterfell easy target for White Walkers. The Vale...would they really take on WW or retreat to the Eryie? Dorne....they withstood dragons but probly not WW army.

And I have doubts Dany and her dragons could beat the WW army. At this rate, by the time she crosses the sea she will be fighting an army of wights the entire population of Westeros. Can 3 dragons really beat that?
Dany is the only one with a realistic shot. We now know with certainty that Valyrian steel is the only practical way of killing the White Walkers. Who is the only person with an army anywhere in the world that could potentially find a large cache of valyrian steel and arm her soldiers with it? That's right, the woman kicking around just a stones throw from old valyria right now.
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In reply to gigemags-99 • 6:21p, 6/16/15
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Can 3 dragons really beat that?


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They'll need to learn to burn **** from the air, and not have to land, like Drogon did in Mereen.
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6:24p, 6/16/15
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I wonder if the wights die if the WWs are killed off...
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In reply to reb, • 6:25p, 6/16/15
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Can 3 dragons really beat that?


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How? Walk me through the tactics? A couple of spears significantly weakened the biggest dragon. what could a couple hundred thousand wights do?

Dany wants to break the wheel? Let the White Walkers do that. They ain't scared of winter in Essos. I still think Dany says f Westeros, I'll just rule Essos. Tyrion even hinted at that.

If you think Westeros has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention! [queue the Ramsey gif]
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6:27p, 6/16/15
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Or maybe she wants to rule both?
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In reply to Stive • 6:29p, 6/16/15
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I don't think there's going to be anything worthwhile left to rule in Westeros.
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In reply to gigemags-99 • 6:31p, 6/16/15
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I wonder if the wights die if the WWs are killed off...
exactly.

You don't have to kill every wight, only the relatively small band of white walkers. It's entirely possible as well that once the WW King dies all the wights die.
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In reply to 30_Days • 6:34p, 6/16/15
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I wonder if the wights die if the WWs are killed off...
exactly.

You don't have to kill every wight, only the relatively small band of white walkers. It's entirely possible as well that once the WW King dies all the wights die.


How do you know this? Two white walkers have been killed on the show....did any wights die?
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In reply to Rocagnante • 6:36p, 6/16/15
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I wonder if the wights die if the WWs are killed off...
exactly.

You don't have to kill every wight, only the relatively small band of white walkers. It's entirely possible as well that once the WW King dies all the wights die.


How do you know this? Two white walkers have been killed on the show....did any wights die?


We're guessing. We don't know this is the case. And the king is the one that raised the dead.
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In reply to Rocagnante • 6:39p, 6/16/15
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I wonder if the wights die if the WWs are killed off...
exactly.

You don't have to kill every wight, only the relatively small band of white walkers. It's entirely possible as well that once the WW King dies all the wights die.


How do you know this? Two white walkers have been killed on the show....did any wights die?
the magic to sustain and control them comes from somewhere, the most likely probability is that it comes from the White Walkers.

There's 2 possibilities then. Either the king dies, and it's all over, the wights collapse into a pile of bones. Or the king dies and the power manifests in the next in line.

Either way, without the WW they're just a leaderless mindless mob. Strong in numbers, but relatively easy to fell, and with no way to get back up.
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In reply to Sentinel • 6:40p, 6/16/15
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She was actually pretty shocked that the guy could resurrect people. I don't think she knows how to exactly.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought she was shocked how many times he had been brought back. Like 5 or 6 right?
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6:41p, 6/16/15
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Both good points.

Edit: gigem and 30
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In reply to Swarely • 7:01p, 6/16/15
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My memory of that episode is fuzzy so you may very well be correct.
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In reply to Objective Aggie • 7:11p, 6/16/15
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I miss Maergery.


I'm ready for her walk of shame!
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In reply to Swarely • 7:54p, 6/16/15
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She was actually pretty shocked that the guy could resurrect people. I don't think she knows how to exactly.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought she was shocked how many times he had been brought back. Like 5 or 6 right?
Yes, it was multiple times. They talked about how many different ways he'd been hurt/killed and all the different times he'd brought him back.
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In reply to TX_AG_10 • 8:10p, 6/16/15
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I miss Maergery.


I'm ready for her walk of shame!


It moved.
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8:36p, 6/16/15
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I now know what I want...jon resurrected by....THE WW KING TO REPLACE THE ONE HE KILLED!
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In reply to boogieman • 9:46p, 6/16/15
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Can 3 dragons really beat that?


Yep!
They'll need to learn to burn **** from the air, and not have to land, like Drogon did in Mereen.


They flew around burning that city when Dany bought the unsullied. Plus Drogon was breathing fire as he flew into the arena. Not a problem. Haven't seen wiggts throw spears or shoot arrows, or have any siege type weapons capable of throwing projectiles.
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10:06p, 6/16/15
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The dragons are also still very young, as they age and grow their skin will toughen.
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10:50p, 6/16/15
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Or throw some armor on those bad boys. Why not?
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9:13a, 6/17/15
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I might have missed it earlier in the thread but the big knight that carried Cersei away was Frankenstein Mountain, right?
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In reply to PooDoo • 9:14a, 6/17/15
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Yup. You could see the frankenstein look through his helmets eye holes.
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9:16a, 6/17/15
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I don't see how it could be anybody else. Maybe The Hound? that could have been frostbite around the eyes I suppose.

it has to be one or the other though right?
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In reply to 30_Days • 9:17a, 6/17/15
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Based on stature alone, it had to be zombie mountain. They've been hinting at it the whole season.
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9:19a, 6/17/15
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Question about e10 "previously on GoT"... They showed the clip with the Ayra and her sword instructor, but never mentioned him in the ep. Was that there to remind us that Meryn is/was an ass and that Arya wanted to kill him, or is there something else there I missed?
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In reply to jbanda • 9:23a, 6/17/15
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Based on stature alone, it had to be zombie mountain. They've been hinting at it the whole season.
that's what I thought too, but I was never quite sure about how big The Hound was, but I thought he was as tall as The Mountain.

My main thought that it might be The Hound instead is that he didn't seem as broad as The Mountain.
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In reply to mattvswild • 9:23a, 6/17/15
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Yeah, that Trant killed him and that's why he's on Arya's list.
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In reply to jbanda • 9:23a, 6/17/15
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Based on stature alone, it had to be zombie mountain. They've been hinting at it the whole season.


I would say more broadcasting than hinting.
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In reply to 30_Days • 9:24a, 6/17/15
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It's not The Hound.
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9:28a, 6/17/15
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Was that there to remind us that Meryn is/was an ass and that Arya wanted to kill him, or is there something else there I missed?



Well since Meryn supposedly killed her instructor that's just about it.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 9:30a, 6/17/15
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Yeah, that Trant MIGHT have killed him and that's why he's on Arya's list.
FIFY.

This is one off screen death that I'm not really sure happened. I think he is alive and well. Though it is a long play since that was from Season 1 and hasn't been mentioned since then.

Stannis though... he gone.
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In reply to Lt. Joe Bookman • 9:33a, 6/17/15
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Dead stannis? Yes. Gone? No. Book a wight stannis.
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