Or maybe nothing will happen and we can pretend that dumb storyline never happened
***** Game of Thrones: Season 5 (TV SHOW ONLY) ***** [STAFF WARNING ON OP]
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Wow, they really did lay groundwork. I don't remember this quote.
Stuff like this is why people are annoyed with the High Sparrow and the Faith Militant
Honestly, it's not really HBO's fault.
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Honestly, it's not really HBO's fault.
Oh I know. Heard it's just like that in the books. Just uncharacteristic of GRRM.
Are people certain that Stannis isn't going to do the same thing in the next book, anyway?
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His radar was up though because of the way he questioned Stannis regarding the reasoning for being sent back to Castle Black.
This. He knew something didn't seem right about the need for him to take the message to Castle Black. His gut told him something bad was gonna happen.
good info.
When the truth comes out, do not ask me how I knew.
Ask yourself why you did not.
Ask yourself why you did not.
What the **** do Muslims have to do with anything?
I'm assuming "wrong thread".
So do dragons in GOT need a runway to start flying? Seemed like Drogon had to get a running start on he and Dany's escape. Maybe it's because he's young. These dragons still have a lot of growing to do. Dany needs to get them in armor ASAP too.
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I'm assuming "wrong thread".
I am thinking worse. More likely one of those that think their signature is 1)clever and 2)appreciated
I was thinking the runway need was due to age.
So, here's my question. They seem to want us to forget that Littlefinger is marching on Winterfell with his army of the Vale, but he is, correct?
So I'm thinking if and when the battle for Winterfell actually takes place, LF's army will show up at the last second and take Winterfell. If that were to happen, would he become Warden of the North or would it fall to Sansa as the "true heir"? Is there an actual protocol there or does it pretty much a become a decision for LF to make?
I know LF's angle is for Cersei to make him Warden of the North but she no longer appears to be in a position to make that happen.
So I'm thinking if and when the battle for Winterfell actually takes place, LF's army will show up at the last second and take Winterfell. If that were to happen, would he become Warden of the North or would it fall to Sansa as the "true heir"? Is there an actual protocol there or does it pretty much a become a decision for LF to make?
I know LF's angle is for Cersei to make him Warden of the North but she no longer appears to be in a position to make that happen.
I doubt he has word of that, yet.
quote:Big birds often need a runway if they aren't taking off from a cliff or tree.
So do dragons in GOT need a runway to start flying? Seemed like Drogon had to get a running start on he and Dany's escape.
Age and/or the spears in his neck weakened him slightly would be my guess.
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So, here's my question. They seem to want us to forget that Littlefinger is marching on Winterfell with his army of the Vale, but he is, correct?
So I'm thinking if and when the battle for Winterfell actually takes place, LF's army will show up at the last second and take Winterfell. If that were to happen, would he become Warden of the North or would it fall to Sansa as the "true heir"? Is there an actual protocol there or does it pretty much a become a decision for LF to make?
I know LF's angle is for Cersei to make him Warden of the North but she no longer appears to be in a position to make that happen.
For a narrative that refuses to buy into typical tropes and norms GRRM sure does like to have a deus ex machina army show up across hundreds of miles at the last possible second to swing the outcome of pivotal battles.
that's if the vale army arrives. i don't think we'll see that this season.
and it's not really a deus ex machina, considering the vale has been long established since the prologue of book one (one of the rangers is a Royce), the murder of their lord puts the events in motion, and their crazy Lady purposefully keeps them out of the War of the Five Kings.
The Vale is not a populous as the Reach, Riverlands, or Crownlands, but is untouched, like Dorne.
and it's not really a deus ex machina, considering the vale has been long established since the prologue of book one (one of the rangers is a Royce), the murder of their lord puts the events in motion, and their crazy Lady purposefully keeps them out of the War of the Five Kings.
The Vale is not a populous as the Reach, Riverlands, or Crownlands, but is untouched, like Dorne.
Bull****. That only happened on the blackwater, night's keep and in reverse with the white walkers last week.
Oh wait.
Oh wait.
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Bull****. That only happened on the blackwater, night's keep and in reverse with the white walkers last week.
Oh wait.
Gandalf says "look to the East and say hi -- this plot device in epic battle stories has been going on for centuries".
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Bull****. That only happened on the blackwater, night's keep and in reverse with the white walkers last week.
Oh wait.
Gandalf says "look to the East and say hi -- this plot device in epic battle stories has been going on for centuries".
Rape has been pretty common in history but we don't hold it up as something we should all aspire to.
The ghost army in lord of the rings was terrible.
Not a fan of ghost army, but the Rohirrim charges in Two Towers and ROTK are epic.
This isn't the thread to discuss the books. This is the show only thread. Seems some people need to be reminded of STAFF'S warning.
quote:The Ghost Army was more Deus Ex Machina, but the Rohirrim made sense - they were the people who divided from their mad king, and Gandlaf, knowing their importance, rallied them back in support of their country.
Not a fan of ghost army, but the Rohirrim charges in Two Towers and ROTK are epic.
I wouldn't call LF's Vale Army as Deus Ex Machina either, since he stated (if I remember correctly) that he wanted the Boltons and Baratheon armies to slug it out, and then he'd come in and cleanup.
The Wildling army would be more of a deus ex machina in this situation if somehow they get involved (i.e. Davos rallies them or something).
Davos leading the Wildlings would be epic.
quote:quote:The Ghost Army was more Deus Ex Machina, but the Rohirrim made sense - they were the people who divided from their mad king, and Gandlaf, knowing their importance, rallied them back in support of their country.
Not a fan of ghost army, but the Rohirrim charges in Two Towers and ROTK are epic.
I wouldn't call LF's Vale Army as Deus Ex Machina either, since he stated (if I remember correctly) that he wanted the Boltons and Baratheon armies to slug it out, and then he'd come in and cleanup.
The Wildling army would be more of a deus ex machina in this situation if somehow they get involved (i.e. Davos rallies them or something).
Exactly. Littlefinger wouldn't be there to help the Boltons or the Baratheons. He'd be thee to take it for himself. This isn't Deus Ex Machina. It's what we call in the Xbox live gaming communities as vulturing the kill.
My point with the LOTR reference was that in order to actually pen an exciting story about a group being saved from the brink of destruction, then the group actually has to be saved from the brink of destruction.
Yeah the armies are coming "just in time", but if they were coming way early there wouldn't be a whole lot of tension, and if they were coming way late then there wouldn't be much of a story.
Yeah he goes to the well with it a lot, but otherwise there's not much to build up tension.
Jaime showing up right as the Sand Snakes were showing up is the only "battle" I've seen in this show that just looked so convenient it was out of place.
Yeah the armies are coming "just in time", but if they were coming way early there wouldn't be a whole lot of tension, and if they were coming way late then there wouldn't be much of a story.
Yeah he goes to the well with it a lot, but otherwise there's not much to build up tension.
Jaime showing up right as the Sand Snakes were showing up is the only "battle" I've seen in this show that just looked so convenient it was out of place.
Davos + Jon Snow co-leading an army south in a 4-episode buddy cop story arch
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Davos + Jon Snow co-leading an army south in a 4-episode buddy cop story arch
The buddy cop spin off I wanted was "the hound and the stark" with sandor and Arya traveling around the 7 kingdoms doling out their own sense of justice. Like an r rated violence filled BJ and the Bear.
Tywin + Arya =
Kindergarten Knights -
As one of the most most powerful men in Westeros, Tywin Lannister thought he had seen it all. Nearing his retirement, he was called into a top secret mission that required he partner up a young commoner named Arya. With the future of the Seven Kingdoms in the balance, this unlikely duo solved various crimes and capers, with hijinks sure to follow. Things are not always what they appear as Arya's previous background is called into question. With cameos by Martin Lawrence and Jack Black.
Kindergarten Knights -
As one of the most most powerful men in Westeros, Tywin Lannister thought he had seen it all. Nearing his retirement, he was called into a top secret mission that required he partner up a young commoner named Arya. With the future of the Seven Kingdoms in the balance, this unlikely duo solved various crimes and capers, with hijinks sure to follow. Things are not always what they appear as Arya's previous background is called into question. With cameos by Martin Lawrence and Jack Black.
quote:That's Sandor, bud!quote:
Davos + Jon Snow co-leading an army south in a 4-episode buddy cop story arch
The buddy cop spin off I wanted was "the hound and the stark" with Gregor and Arya traveling around the 7 kingdoms doling out their own sense of justice. Like an r rated violence filled BJ and the Bear.
Oh snap big **** up on my part
Also, in the situation everyone is describing about LF, he isn't coming in to save the day while others are on the brink of destruction. He would be biding his time waiting for both to weaken before sending them both over the brink to serve his own ends. Now if he shows up to support Stannis or the Boltons at the last second, that is a different story.
Arya and a zombie.