quote:As she was not naked at those times... No. Not "awesome".
Not even when she lit that witch on fire and hatched 3 dragons? Or when she double crossed the slavers that sold her the Unsullied?
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Not even when she lit that witch on fire and hatched 3 dragons?
quote:I find her to not be a likable character. Her motivations are selfish (her entitlement to being queen), her actions are ill-informed (her entire manner/method of conquest without consideration of the repercussions), and she is just completely ridiculous.
So you aren't basing your judgments on justice but rather which characters the puppet master tells you are the most likeable.
quote:is there an option for justice? because the other guy didnt mention justice, only boobs.
So you aren't basing your judgments on justice but rather which characters the puppet master tells you are the most likeable.
quote:quote:is there an option for justice? because the other guy didnt mention justice, only boobs.
So you aren't basing your judgments on justice but rather which characters the puppet master tells you are the most likeable.
quote:Yes, but she wants to be queen. In essence forcing herself to be the ruler of the land. You HAVE to acknowledge her rule over you. She is just setting herself up as a slaveowner but at a higher level (Queen), and using her armies and dragons to force herself on Essos and eventually Westeros.
Clearly Dany isn't the most likable. Just read this thread. As for Walder Frey, was that justice what he did to Robb? Broke one of the oldest customs of the land. Bolton, betraying his liege lord for some money and personal gain? Is that justice? There is no justice in this show. Dany wants to end slavery, maybe the greatest injustice to life ever.
quote:Cersei sucks. As do her boobs.
Compare and contrast: 2 queens. Dany or Cersei?
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Clearly Dany isn't the most likable. Just read this thread. As for Walder Frey, was that justice what he did to Robb? Broke one of the oldest customs of the land. Bolton, betraying his liege lord for some money and personal gain? Is that justice? There is no justice in this show. Dany wants to end slavery, maybe the greatest injustice to life ever.
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I was mostly joking about the ending slavery comment. When you put it the way you did maybe I like her bc she has and wants to kill a bunch of people on 2 continents. She sucks right now. Get on with the killing.
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Oh and Dany was a guest in astapor and she killed her hosts. Guest rights can swing both ways.
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I don't know if I'd be so quick to claim advantage Stark.
Sansa is in a tug-of-war between the three of the most despicable and dangerous men in Westrose.
Arya has basically sold herself in the slavery on the other side of the world.
Bran is way up north surrounded by white walkers with an old guy who literally has a tree growing through him as a mentor.
Rik is awol.
Jon's duty no longer lies at home and his mentor watched as the greatest dynasty Westros has ever seen, his family, was destroyed and stayed on the wall.
quote:The tradition of "guest right" probably varies across the breadth of Martin's world.
She had a ship, likely slept there and bought food from merchants at port
quote:I'd disagree. Cersei acts extremely confident in her abilities and dismisses the help of others because she has the need to prove that she is intelligent and capable. Dany actually considers what her advisors tell her and has been known to change her mind or stick to her guns depending on what she ultimately believes is best. This is exactly what Tywin was trying to teach Tommen makes a good king.quote:Cersei sucks. As do her boobs.
Compare and contrast: 2 queens. Dany or Cersei?
While we have yet to see Cersie's boobs, we have seen Lena's boobs so that is not a spoiler.
But Cersei is a much more interesting character. She at least has brains.
Insufferable in her own way. Entitled as well. But she at least shows some intelligence and awareness.
quote:What will happen if Sansa double-crosses the Boltons? I wouldn't fault her for it. Dany did do something pretty shady and was never wronged by the slavers like Sansa was by the Freys/Boltons, but you can't treat every double-cross the same. Walder Frey wasn't ending a war for the good of the realm. He did it for power and to advance his house, as did the Boltons.quote:
Clearly Dany isn't the most likable. Just read this thread. As for Walder Frey, was that justice what he did to Robb? Broke one of the oldest customs of the land. Bolton, betraying his liege lord for some money and personal gain? Is that justice? There is no justice in this show. Dany wants to end slavery, maybe the greatest injustice to life ever.
That's precisely my point, he is deplorable for his double cross, but Dany double crosses someone and she is a badass.
Spare me "her motivations are honorable" bullsht. Walder Frey ended a war (which is more hellish than mereen ever was), Dany wants to kill hundreds of thousands on both continents.
quote:I'll start caring about Dany once she becomes a competent ruler, or goes back to conquering with Blood and Fire.
Dany was awesome until some time last season. Now she sucks. She makes terrible decision after terrible decision, and worst of all, her story is boring.
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I find the Dany storyline drug out and mostly boring because since her goal is conquering Westeros, why the f does she care about being a beloved Queen of Meereen? That she has spent so much time there just trying to be a ruler is a waste so that she can tread water while the story advances elsewhere until its appropriately time for her to cross the sea.
I don't hate Dany near as much as some on here, but her story has definitely stalled. When she eventually takes the throne, a moral to her story will be the redemption she got through the course of it all as she went from her lowest point when the story started to become Queen. But the story is playing out to ruin that feeling by wasting our time on sheet with her that no one cares about.
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It's on the job training for here in Mereen. She has to learn how to rule. She knows how to conqueer.
I agree though. Her storyline has stalled and become boring.
quote:Basically both of these. Now even though I get why she is doing it, I will definitely agree that I want her to get the eff outta there as fast as possible.
I thought she was practicing being the queen here to make sure she is able to keep the 7 kingdoms after she wins them..
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It's on the job training for here in Mereen. She has to learn how to rule. She knows how to conqueer.
quote:And to avenge Robb's betrayal of his marriage promise, and because he has always felt that his house is treated as a second-class citizen by the other great houses.
Walder Frey wasn't ending a war for the good of the realm. He did it for power and to advance his house, as did the Boltons.