I still think I like WandaVision more than most of them, except Loki. Maybe Hawkeye, too. Moon Knight was also interesting and probably better/easier to watch as a binge. There is a bit of eye rolling in the climax. (phrasing!)

Secret Invasion has my interest, but I don't think I'm going to care about the other two, either. I always more Loki.

WandaVision was fun.

Hawkeye was the best of the shows

I need to finish Moon Knight. I got several episodes in and just stopped.

Falcon and Winter Soldier had some moments but fell flat for me.

What If? was good. Very different. Darker than expected at times.

Loki was fun. Also darker than expected at times.

I don't have any expectations of the new series lineup. They might be good.

They might be Kenobi.

I think we have all been looking for Mt Escapism, haven't we though?

I think it's the movies that haven't really justified their existence lately, more than the shows. Love & Thunder and Quantumania were just kinda there and didn't really do much to change the status quo. I mean, Thor has a daughter now and many Kangs are out there, but they already were after Loki anyway. Eternals, totally skippable. Etc.

The shows usually start with a pretty good premise, then meander in the middle, then finish with a generic-but-fine punchy finale. WandaVision was a fresh idea we hadn't seen before. Falcon & Winter Soldier explored some stuff I didn't think we'd see in the MCU. Loki was unique. Hawkeye was fun. Moon Knight was kinda bonkers. Ms. Marvel had some clever editing and art direction early on. She-Hulk did some very She-Hulk things.

Other than Loki and She-Hulk, though, most of that was out the window by the finale. WandaVision was out of the TV show setting (which was fine, and was their intent all along - the finale was never going to be Malcolm in the Middle or anything). Bucky ran out of things to do by episode 5. Hawkeye didn't even have Hawkeye sharing a scene with their surprise villain - he was busy getting wailed on by Yelena. Moon Knight got real generic - was anyone really hoping for him to fly around, or punch Ethan Hawke on a pyramid, or have two giant gods punch each other around like Godzilla? Ms. Marvel lost all the fun visual tricks and you eventually realize episodes 3-5 were basically a side-quest with ****ty villains.

I haven't seen Obi-Wan, but I assume it's the same. There was a lot of hype for episodes 1 and 2, then I quit hearing about it in the middle, and when I asked about it after the finale I heard it was fine overall.

So I think the shows so far have suffered from some genericness and fitting into a 6-episode format. She-Hulk's finale makes fun of this pretty well - "you just gotta have a generic punch-out at the end, that's how these things work." And it was to the detriment of most of the shows.

Now these upcoming shows... ehh. Secret Invasion should be its own thing, and has enough good actors to tell a mature story, so I am somewhat excited about that. Echo shouldn't have gotten a spin-off before she even appeared on Hawkeye, but it's always been rumored to include Fisk and Daredevil, so maybe that's a good thing (or more forced cameos). And Ironheart, they're going to have to either do something really original, or really improve their writing, because I think a lot of people were turned off by her in BP2. (Potentially good villains though)

And yeah I don't know why you'd do an Agatha show other than to do WandaVision 2. Which judging from the cast, it is.


So I guess I'll defend the ideas behind the shows we got so far, I'll criticize the execution on most of them, and even I'm pretty skeptical about the upcoming shows. Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye and Nick Fury are characters of a much different caliber than Echo and Agatha Harkness. I thought we'd be getting shows about, say, the Thing, or Iceman or Gambit & Rogue. And we may - in 2029 - but until then they've been scraping the bottom of the barrel. Spin-offs of spin-offs - not what the MCU needs right now.

The more I think of this, the more I think this would make a cool tv show ...like a Secret Life of Walter Mitty type of thing.

TC probably has more knowledge on this but many believe she was the reason for all the VFX Crunch stuff that came out in the last year. Someone this senior with no notice smells of Iger cleaning house

Victoria Elonso out at Marvel

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvel-studios-victoria-alonso-exits-1235356853/

From Reddit

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Victoria Alonso was (until last Friday) the President of Physical and Post Production, Visual Effects, and Animation at Marvel Studios and 3rd in command after President Kevin Feige and co-president Louis D'Esposito.
In 2006, her friend, Louis D'Esposito (who had been brought in to executive produce Iron Man as a collaborator of Jon Favreau after the 2 had worked together in Zathura) asked her to join the movie as a VFX producer. Before that, Alonso had worked as a VFX producer in 8 other movies including Shrek.
However, she took on a bigger role in the entire production of the film and got a co-producer credit as well.
She continued working as a freelance co-producer for the rest of Phase 1, until she became Executive Vice President and Chief of Production and Post-Production at Marvel Studios and started getting "Executive Producer" credits in all the films and TV series from The Avengers (2012) onwards.
While Louis worked mostly on pre-production and managed talent deals, filming scheduling etc, Victoria worked mostly on physical and post-production and Feige oversaw everything.
During a small restructuring of Marvel Studios in Summer 2021 in an attempt to create their own Animation Studios after the successful release of What if...? Season 1, Victoria Alonso's title was changed to President of Physical and Post Production, Visual Effects, and Animation as she oversaw the in-house Marvel Studios Animation studio as well, with Brad Winderbaum being named "President of Marvel Studios Television and Animation".
Amidst the numerous reports last year from many workers in the VFX industry talking about harsh conditions, insane demands and impossible deadlines when freelancing for Marvel Studios as well as a fear of being black-listed if they don't meet the studio's expectation, a new report from the Vulture came in 2 months ago shedding a bit more light on the situation.

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"The main one that everyone's quite scared of is Victoria Alonso," says a Vancouver-based tech who has vowed to never work for the studio again. "She is known in the industry as a kingmaker. If she likes you, you are going to get work and move up in the industry. If you have pissed her off in any way, you're going to get frozen out."
A senior animator who works for Marvel Studios Animation, says that the in-house studio suffers under its own impossible deadline structure and pixel-****ing style of dysfunction. "We're in-house. We're paid well. I do feel like we're padded by money. But it doesn't change the fact that they're asking for things that can't be done."

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Alonso as a lesbian Latina herself, has also tried to bring more diversity in the studio, both in front and behind the screen.

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"Diversity and inclusion is not a political game for us."
"It is 100 percent a responsibility because you don't get to have the global success that we have given the Walt Disney Company without the support of people around the world of every kind of human there is."

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She even suggested that the name "X-Men" is a bit outdated.

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It's funny that people call it the X-Men. There's a lot of female superheroes in that X-Men group, so I think it's outdated.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/11wr2q0/comment/jczuaun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Sheeit, Variety said it was a straight up firing though I thought that was fairly obvious

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/victoria-alonso-marvel-exit-kevin-feige-1235561995/

What was the plot of DP2? I can't remember at this point.

And he's still a dick, but now there's worse dicks that he's fighting against.

Plot synopsis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool_2#Plot

Wouldn't mind a Brolin back as Cable, but Cable before Jean and Cyclops might be odd for the MCU.

jeffk said:

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And he's still a dick, but now there's worse dicks that he's fighting against.

Plot synopsis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool_2#Plot

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Guess I need to rewatch this cause I barely remember any of that recap

Welp, time for Marvel to pivot away from Kang.

BREAKING: Jonathan Majors was arrested in New York this morning for assault. The alleged victim was reportedly hospitalized and is in stable condition.

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— IGN (@IGN) March 26, 2023

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— vids that go hard (@vidsthatgohard) March 25, 2023

This might very well be rock bottom for Marvel.

Break the Emergency Doom glass and pivot to Secret Wars being a Doom led movie.

Not a bad idea, especially considering they've continually failed to crack the story for Blade, and they can't possibly top the original anyway.