Sex Panther said:

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rhutton125 said:

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This begs the question:

Will we get a brief misunderstanding-fight between the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy???

Please let it happen.

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Think that would be a pretty one sided fight

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Agreed. Rocket and Groot would **** up the Avengers

Are we including Yondu, Nebula & Mantis in Guardians?

Currently, Earth's mightiest warriors don't include Hulk or Thor. I think Drax, Groot and Rocket could handle anyone currently on Earth, aside from Vision or Wanda. But they'd all get their kicks in.

I mean, we know who would win. Nobody. They punch for a bit, then they're mates! I imagine Thor would land and explain the situation to them all, or something.

israeliag said:

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What if Peter Quill and Tony Starks mothers' names are BOTH MARTHA?!?!?!

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GASP!!! So THAT'S why Thanos wants to kill them!!!

So, Houstonians...

Comicpalooza is in a couple of weeks and has pulled together the vast majority of Marvel Netflix stars (everyone of note really except Rosario Dawson and Krysten Ritter), plus added Anthony Mackie from the MCU.

Panel schedules aren't up yet but they have confirmed panels for Finn Jones, the Defenders, and Anthony Mackie.

Anybody attending?

we're going

The MCU turns 9 today!

I already bought my ticket for Saturday only

I realize that's obviously correct, and that Marvel Studios as it exists now - and the overall MCU - wasn't even remotely in effect in 2003, but shouldn't the Eric Bana Hulk technically be considered the first movie in the MCU? If only because The Incredible Hulk is basically a direct sequel, just starring a different cast?

At the end of Hulk, Banner is in hiding in South America, and then at the beginning of The Incredible Hulk, Banner is still in hiding in South America, only to come back to the states and the same, basic dynamic he left in Hulk. Again, I know The Incredible Hulk was basically a soft-reboot, but it was meant to be a soft-sequel to Hulk as well, just with a different cast. And because South America links Hulk and The Incredible Hulk, and because William Hurt's General Ross (along with Tony Stark in a TIH post credit scene) links to Civil War, at least when it comes to organizing my Blu-rays, I might just throw in Hulk with the rest of them...

Hu? Banner hasn't become the Hulk in the beginning of The Incredible Hulk so there's no way it's a soft-partial-maybesorta-kinda sequel. It was a total reboot.

TCTTS said:

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I realize that's obviously correct, and that Marvel Studios as it exists now - and the overall MCU - wasn't even remotely in effect in 2003, but shouldn't the Eric Bana Hulk technically be considered the first movie in the MCU? If only because The Incredible Hulk is basically a direct sequel, just starring a different cast?

At the end of Hulk, Banner is in hiding in South America, and then at the beginning of The Incredible Hulk, Banner is still in hiding in South America, only to come back to the states and the same, basic dynamic he left in Hulk. Again, I know The Incredible Hulk was basically a soft-reboot, but it was meant to be a soft-sequel to Hulk as well, just with a different cast. And because South America links Hulk and The Incredible Hulk, and because William Hurt's General Ross (along with Tony Stark in a TIH post credit scene) links to Civil War, at least when it comes to organizing my Blu-rays, I might just throw in Hulk with the rest of them...

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The two movies have different backgrounds on how Bruce Banner becomes the hulk. In the first movie, Banner does experiments on himself as Ross denies him the use of human subjects. In the MCU version, Ross uses the super-soldier program experiments from World War 2 and uses Banner as more of a military pawn. I'm not sure about the South America thing, maybe its part of the Hulks backstory in the comics.

Yes he has. From the opening scene, he's not only trying to find a cure, but making a distinct effort to remain calm, etc. That said, Bruce brings up some good points.

Hmm... I guess I need to rewatch it. I did read on wiki that it was originally developed as a sequel, but was turned into a reboot to distance from the Ang Lee one.

TCTTS said:

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Yes he has. From the opening scene, he's not only trying to find a cure, but making a distinct effort to remain calm, etc. That said, Bruce brings up some good points.

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I think the 2008 film has a brief start in Virginia before the jump. Total reboot.

AgMarauder04 said:

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TCTTS said:

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Yes he has. From the opening scene, he's not only trying to find a cure, but making a distinct effort to remain calm, etc. That said, Bruce brings up some good points.

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I think the 2008 film has a brief start in Virginia before the jump. Total reboot.

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That's correct. The Incredible Hulk establishes a different background with the movie starting in Virginia and showing how Banner becomes the Hulk. It's brief and then moves to South America.

Reading into the production, I wasn't aware that Ed Norton was so involved in the re-writes.

2003 Hulk was from Universal studios back when Marvel was still licensing out its characters to existing studios to make the movies. It's as much part of the MCU as Sony's Spider-Man and Fox's X-Men.

2008 Hulk was made by Marvel Studios, and I'm guessing they had Hulk start the movie already loose in South America so they wouldn't have to do the whole origin story again 5 years after Universal flopped with it.

Yeah, I would say it's fair to call it the most underrated Marvel Studios film.

So he wanted to stay on as a writer, or just disagreed with the direction they wanted to take Hulk?

israeliag said:

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Yeah, I would say it's fair to call it the most underrated Marvel Studios film.

So he wanted to stay on as a writer, or just disagreed with the direction they wanted to take Hulk?

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Norton didn't like the studio's meddling. There was a lot more Banner in his version, including a sort of therapy session with Samson that was actually in some of the trailers.

israeliag said:

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Yeah, I would say it's fair to call it the most underrated Marvel Studios film.

So he wanted to stay on as a writer, or just disagreed with the direction they wanted to take Hulk?

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Accuracy is of course debatable, but...

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After production was completed, Leterrier put together "an assembly" of the film, which basically included everything that was shot. The director explained to Collider: "It's called a suicide run because it's absolutely horrible. You want to commit suicide after you see it."

Marvel decided they wanted make a shorter, more action-packed cut of the film, discarding a lot of the character development pieces that Norton had brought to the screenplay.

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More detail here:
http://www.slashfilm.com/the-truth-about-edward-norton-vs-marvel/

Ya'll back off Edward Norton. If it wasn't for his so called "meddling", Omar Little wouldn't be a character in the MCU:

I think I was most excited about seeing Scott Glen/Stick was back.

fig96 said:

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Man that looks like a lot of fun.

Anyone else notice Elektra kicking Matt's ass?

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She probably ain't Elektra no more.

Iron Fist looks so much better in that trailer. Hopefully they redeem him (and give him his costume)