James Spader elevates this to must see TV

Also Inde get that BAG

Which multiverse are you in?

Vision Quest looks cool. Also that it's here in two months is nice. A little bit of that WandaVision/Agatha look while also maybe a bit more narrative momentum than either show had. Though I quite enjoyed both.

I love Vision in the comics, he's probably in my top 5, so I really hope they handle him well. Infinity War, sadly, did not, and he was good but secondary in WandaVision.

TCTTS said:

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Marvel Television's VisionQuest
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23112594/
Limited Series (8 Episodes)
October 14, 2026
Disney+

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i was so confused after this trailer…the most I've ever been after watching a marvel trailer for anything…

The doomsday trailer was awesome! This is exactly what fans needed to see.

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- Lastly, it's revealed in Agatha All Along that Billy is alive in the real world. Wanda wasn't making hallucinations but actually altering reality. So I guess Tommy will also appear in the real world in this show.

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Alive by jumping his Hex consciousness into the body of someone nearby that had just died.

What happened to Wanda? I'm assuming we haven't seen the last of her?

Is she in Doomsday?

I vaguely remember this stuff now but reading through that summary it's really the most ridiculous story/plot.

Appreciate that summary but it leaves me with one question…

How did the artificial reality Vision and rebooted White Vision actually fight?

If artificial reality Vision was just that, then who was White Vision fighting? If it was discovered in the Agatha show that she was alternating reality and that "artificial Vision" was actually a real person, then who the hell was that?

And now the kids from the show are actually real?

I feel like when this show was pitched this was said early on….

It's been a while since I watched but the things in "the hex" (Wanda's created world) were real and tangible, they just couldn't exist outside that space. So when Vision tries to leave at one point, he begins disintegrating and Wanda expands the range of the hex to save/recapture? him. She's not really aware what she's doing at that point or that she has that level of power, IIRC. It's Agatha that eventually explains to her that she has the power of creation, and she's the Scarlet Witch.

Regarding Billy and Tommy, I'll just spoil Agatha All Along here with the wiki:

Following a battle between Wanda and the witch Agatha Harkness, Wanda dissolves the Westview anomaly, erasing the imaginary existence of Billy. Billy reincarnates upon his "death" in the body of William Kaplan (portrayed by Joe Locke), a 13-year-old from Westview's neighboring town of Eastview, who was killed in a car accident after leaving his bar mitzvah early; stricken with amnesia, Billy then assumes William's identity, unaware of his past life.

Following Wanda's death, Billy's curiosity about the anomaly that occurred the day of his car crash leads him to investigate and learn that Wanda and Vision had children in Westview, one of whom had the same abilities that he has. Realizing his true identity, he becomes determined to find his lost brother. He frees Harkness from a spell placed by Wanda and asks that she take him on the Witches' Road, a magical pathway where one's desires are granted after completing a series of "trials". In the final trial, Billy locates Tommy's soul and places it in the body of a drowning boy. After discovering that the Witches' Road was a myth created by Harkness and that he had willed it into existence, he accepts the mentorship of Harkness, who dies and returns as a ghost, and sets out to search for Tommy.

So Billy has the same chaos magic that Wanda does, and Tommy has super speed like his uncle Pietro.

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What happened to Wanda? I'm assuming we haven't seen the last of her?

Is she in Doomsday?

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Possibly. There are apparently four Latverian Witches / "Witches of Doom" in Doomsday, and she's rumored to be the one in the brown/orange. Sylvie, the female Loki, might be the green one, Clea (Charlize Theron) might be the purple one, and Doctor Strange might be the silver/metal one (notice the hole for a third eye). That said, other characters are also rumored for those roles, so who knows. Maybe Wanda is one of them, maybe not.

OK, in prep for the next Avengers movie, I decided to look on the Marvel page for all the MCU shows and TV series since I know I haven't watched a lot of the minor movies.

They have the list below, and again, this is from Marvel's website. My question is, why aren't the TV series Agent Carter and Agents of Shield not in there. And while Luke Cage and Daredevil are, Cloak and Dagger is not.

My question is why are they not listed (just curious)?

So, here is the list from Marvel's website:
MCU Complete Timeline
Eyes of Wakanda
Captain America: The First Avenger
Marvel Studios One Shot: Agent Carter
Captain Marvel
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
The Incredible Hulk
Marvel Studios One Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer
Thor
Marvel Studios One Shot: The Consultant
The Avengers
Marvel Studios One Shot: Item 47
Thor: The Dark World
Iron Man 3
Marvel Studios One Shot: All Hail the King
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
I Am Groot S1
I Am Groot S2
Daredevil S1
Jessica Jones S1
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Daredevil S2
Luke Cage S1
Iron Fist S1
The Defenders
Captain America: Civil War
Black Widow
Black Panther
Spider-Man: Homecoming
The Punisher S1
Doctor Strange
Jessica Jones S2
Luke Cage S2
Iron Fist S2
Daredevil S3
Thor: Ragnarok
The Punisher S2
Jessica Jones S3
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Avengers: Infinity War
Avengers: Endgame
Loki S1
What If…? S1
Marvel Zombies
WandaVision
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Spider-Man: Far From Home
Eternals
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Echo
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
Ms. Marvel
Thor: Love and Thunder
Ironheart
Werewolf By Night
The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Secret Invasion
The Marvels
Loki S2
What If…? S2
Deadpool & Wolverine
Agatha All Along
What If…? S3
Daredevil: Born Again S1
Captain America: Brave New World
Thunderbolts*
The Fantastic Four: First Steps
Wonder Man
Daredevil: Born Again S2
The Punisher: One Last Kill

They've had Haley Atwell front and center at two big events promoting Doomsday, even though she's been in about 10 minutes of Marvel in the last 15 years - 2 scenes in Endgame and 3 scenes in Dr. Strange 2.

I have no problems with this because she is super hot, but does it suggest she will have a much larger role in Doomsday?

The Netflix shows got grandfathered in, essentially, but no other TV prior to WandaVision did. Also I really wouldn't count What If? since it's animated, alternate dimension and frankly not that great (though I only did S1).

Also never, ever watch Secret Invasion.

I don't not finish shows I start watching. And I didn't finish Secret Invasion.

Disney+ has revealed 15 projects to watch before ‘AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY’:

• ‘X-Men’
• ‘X2’
• ‘Captain America: The First Avenger’
• ‘The Avengers’
• ‘Avengers: Infinity War’
• ‘Avengers: Endgame’
• ‘Loki’
• ‘Shang-Chi’
• ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’
• ‘Black Panther: Wakanda… pic.twitter.com/J8KXbJO1WK

— Cosmic Marvel (@cosmic_marvel) August 16, 2026

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Disney+ has revealed 15 projects to watch before 'AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY':

- 'X-Men'
- 'X2'
- 'Captain America: The First Avenger'
- 'The Avengers'
- 'Avengers: Infinity War'
- 'Avengers: Endgame'
- 'Loki'
- 'Shang-Chi'
- 'Spider-Man: No Way Home'
- 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
- 'Captain America: Brave New World'
- 'Deadpool & Wolverine'
- 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness'
- 'Thunderbolts*'
- 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps'

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Spider-Man?

Maybe because the multiverse is involved? I'm sure some intern put this list together with no real insider information.

Maybe…

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Spider-Man?

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Best they can do is Spader-Man in the new Vision show.

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TCTTS said:

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Disney+ has revealed 15 projects to watch before ‘AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY’:

• ‘X-Men’
• ‘X2’
• ‘Captain America: The First Avenger’
• ‘The Avengers’
• ‘Avengers: Infinity War’
• ‘Avengers: Endgame’
• ‘Loki’
• ‘Shang-Chi’
• ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’
• ‘Black Panther: Wakanda… pic.twitter.com/J8KXbJO1WK

— Cosmic Marvel (@cosmic_marvel) August 16, 2026

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Disney+ has revealed 15 projects to watch before 'AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY':

- 'X-Men'
- 'X2'
- 'Captain America: The First Avenger'
- 'The Avengers'
- 'Avengers: Infinity War'
- 'Avengers: Endgame'
- 'Loki'
- 'Shang-Chi'
- 'Spider-Man: No Way Home'
- 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
- 'Captain America: Brave New World'
- 'Deadpool & Wolverine'
- 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness'
- 'Thunderbolts*'
- 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps'

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Well Holy ****, I've actually already seen all of these!

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Spider-Man?

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IYKYK….

TCTTS said:

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Disney+ has revealed 15 projects to watch before ‘AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY’:

• ‘X-Men’
• ‘X2’
• ‘Captain America: The First Avenger’
• ‘The Avengers’
• ‘Avengers: Infinity War’
• ‘Avengers: Endgame’
• ‘Loki’
• ‘Shang-Chi’
• ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’
• ‘Black Panther: Wakanda… pic.twitter.com/J8KXbJO1WK

— Cosmic Marvel (@cosmic_marvel) August 16, 2026

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Disney+ has revealed 15 projects to watch before 'AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY':

- 'X-Men'
- 'X2'
- 'Captain America: The First Avenger'
- 'The Avengers'
- 'Avengers: Infinity War'
- 'Avengers: Endgame'
- 'Loki'
- 'Shang-Chi'
- 'Spider-Man: No Way Home'
- 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
- 'Captain America: Brave New World'
- 'Deadpool & Wolverine'
- 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness'
- 'Thunderbolts*'
- 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps'

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lots of comments in that X post wondering why there's no Days of Future Past on this list…

DOTF is mostly about the X-Men of Jennifer Lawrence and Fassbender. That timeline gets "fixed", so this is something else.

I think it's just a lazy "these characters are in it". If it weren't for Nightcrawler, I wonder if X2 would even be on the list.

In the wake of D23, here are all the MCU dates that have now been officially announced/confirmed (some as late as today)...

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Marvel Television's VisionQuest
Limited Series (8 Episodes)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23112594/
October 14, 2026
Disney+

Avengers: Doomsday
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21357150/
December 18, 2026

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Marvel Television's Daredevil: Born Again
Season 3
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18923754/
2027 TBA
Disney+

Avengers: Secret Wars
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21361444/
December 17, 2027

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Untitled X-Men Project
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29347085/
May 5, 2028

Ghost Rider
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt43711959/
July 28, 2028

Black Panther III
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt37884905/
December 15, 2028

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Untitled Marvel Studios Project
May 4, 2029

Untitled Marvel Studios Project
July 13, 2029

Untitled Marvel Studios Project
November 9, 2029

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Known MCU movies in development...

- Armor Wars
- Deadpool 4
- Doctor Strange 3
- Fantastic Four 2
- Midnight Sons
- Nova
- Shang-Chi 2
- Spider-Man 5

... while no other MCU Disney+ series are known to be in development after Daredevil: Born Again season three.

I hate Twitter so much. I searched for Doomsday stuff and the algorithm flashed a huge spoiler in my feed. Im pissed.