Perfect example of the headline not being at all what the actual quote was.

And have you ever sat through some corporate diversity training garbage?

Spoiler alert - those are ALWAYS anti-male, anti-white. I had a female coworker, an A&M grad to boot, who got up in front of one of these meetings and stated, quite matter-of-factly, that it was bad that men look at women's boobs. She had some suggestions for how to fix this "problem" but I tuned everything else she said out, as she was not worth listening to.

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Especially considering black panther was a mediocre movie

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This is the only place I discuss Marvel where people hold this opinion. YMMV I guess, but for me its no where near mediocre.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/brie-larson-i-dont-want-to-hear-what-a-white-man-has-to-say/

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That doesn't have a quote saying that she didn't want white men to interview her or review her movie.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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And have you ever sat through some corporate diversity training garbage?

Spoiler alert - those are ALWAYS anti-male, anti-white. I had a female coworker, an A&M grad to boot, who got up in front of one of these meetings and stated, quite matter-of-factly, that it was bad that men look at women's boobs. She had some suggestions for how to fix this "problem" but I tuned everything else she said out, as she was not worth listening to.

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Wow

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/brie-larson-i-dont-want-to-hear-what-a-white-man-has-to-say/

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That doesn't have a quote saying that she didn't want white men to interview her or review her movie.

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I don't need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn't work about A Wrinkle in Time. It wasn't made for him! I want to know what it meant to women of color, biracial women, to teen women of color.

Clearly you've never been in one of these meetings.

Take your Wow and ... well, do whatever you want with it.

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MBAR said:

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/brie-larson-i-dont-want-to-hear-what-a-white-man-has-to-say/

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That doesn't have a quote saying that she didn't want white men to interview her or review her movie.

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I don't need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn't work about A Wrinkle in Time. It wasn't made for him! I want to know what it meant to women of color, biracial women, to teen women of color.

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1. A Wrinkle in Time doesn't star Brie Larson, isn't in the MCU, and doesn't have Captain Marvel in it.

2. She doesn't say white men can't review A Wrinkle in Time.

3. She doesn't say white men can't interview her or review Captain Marvel.

I don't know if it was discussed in here, but what the biggest thing the last Far From Home trailer taught me was that Marvel has the perfect method for introducing mutants and the Fantastic Four with the revelation that there is a multiverse now.

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MBAR said:

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/brie-larson-i-dont-want-to-hear-what-a-white-man-has-to-say/

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That doesn't have a quote saying that she didn't want white men to interview her or review her movie.

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I don't need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn't work about A Wrinkle in Time. It wasn't made for him! I want to know what it meant to women of color, biracial women, to teen women of color.

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1. A Wrinkle in Time doesn't star Brie Larson, isn't in the MCU, and doesn't have Captain Marvel in it.

2. She doesn't say white men can't review A Wrinkle in Time.

3. She doesn't say white men can't interview her or review Captain Marvel.

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1. While I am aware she is not in it, why does she need to mention A Wrinkle in Time?
2. She does not need a 40-year-old white dude to tell her what didn't work in that movie. Sounds a good bit like she does not need his review of the movie.
3. This was a quote from about the time that Captain Marvel came out, if I recall right.

That is my take on what she said. You can mock me all you want, I don't give a rip about that or really, what you have to say about so-called diversity (doesn't exist as some people so desperately want it to).

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I don't know if it was discussed in here, but what the biggest thing the last Far From Home trailer taught me was that Marvel has the perfect method for introducing mutants and the Fantastic Four with the revelation that there is a multiverse now.

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I think it's a bluff on Mysterio's part and he's full of it.

But I also think it's true that there is a multiverse (Endgame said as much), but we won't see that as the major plot point for the MCU overall, with new characters crossing over from other realities. I think it will be the destruction of the stones that changes things going forward and introduces mutants. And exploring the multiverse is the perfect avenue for the Fantastic 4.

Hey guys, please take your dick-slapping Brie Larson commentary away from this thread. Thanks in advance.

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MBAR said:

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I don't know if it was discussed in here, but what the biggest thing the last Far From Home trailer taught me was that Marvel has the perfect method for introducing mutants and the Fantastic Four with the revelation that there is a multiverse now.

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I think it's a bluff on Mysterio's part and he's full of it.

But I also think it's true that there is a multiverse (Endgame said as much), but we won't see that as the major plot point for the MCU overall, with new characters crossing over from other realities. I think it will be the destruction of the stones that changes things going forward and introduces mutants. And exploring the multiverse is the perfect avenue for the Fantastic 4.

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I think it can be both. Mysterio can be from the multiverse (hence how Fury is familiar with him) but also lying about being a hero vs villain. I'm not sure if that's the point you're making but I believe Fury when he's talking about the multiverse.

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MBAR said:

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I don't know if it was discussed in here, but what the biggest thing the last Far From Home trailer taught me was that Marvel has the perfect method for introducing mutants and the Fantastic Four with the revelation that there is a multiverse now.

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I think it's a bluff on Mysterio's part and he's full of it.

But I also think it's true that there is a multiverse (Endgame said as much), but we won't see that as the major plot point for the MCU overall, with new characters crossing over from other realities. I think it will be the destruction of the stones that changes things going forward and introduces mutants. And exploring the multiverse is the perfect avenue for the Fantastic 4.

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I can see it going both ways on the bluff. We'll see how it plays out, but I wasn't sure they were going to dive full on into the multiverse aspect of things since I think it might be something that is a bit too hard for the audience to follow but it seems that they are. I hope they pull it off well.

It's sounding from director/producer comments that Mysterio may start out as a hero, but eventually betray Peter? Almost like a Mordo situation?

Speculation, but they said they're having fun playing off the expectations a bit. They know that everyone knows Mysterio is a villain in the comics, so maybe they can mix it up a bit and do things differently than you might expect.

Off-topic, but since someone mentioned earlier:

Can someone more knowledgeable in the comics explain the difference between Richard Ryder Nova and Sam Alexander Nova from a personality perspective? I prefer the original, because he looks cooler, but I don't really know anything about Sam.

Nova from 1970s-2000 is kind of a Spider-Man homage, always cracking jokes. I look forward to Annihilation, which I've heard is sort of his growing-up moment. But maybe Sam Alexander is equally cool - and not to go all SJW on anyone, but I can count the number of Hispanic superheroes I know on one hand. So that could be kinda neat.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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And have you ever sat through some corporate diversity training garbage?

Spoiler alert - those are ALWAYS anti-male, anti-white. I had a female coworker, an A&M grad to boot, who got up in front of one of these meetings and stated, quite matter-of-factly, that it was bad that men look at women's boobs. She had some suggestions for how to fix this "problem" but I tuned everything else she said out, as she was not worth listening to.

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You missed a perfect opportunity to say that you tuned everything else out because you were looking at her boobs.

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It's sounding from director/producer comments that Mysterio may start out as a hero, but eventually betray Peter? Almost like a Mordo situation?

Speculation, but they said they're having fun playing off the expectations a bit. They know that everyone knows Mysterio is a villain in the comics, so maybe they can mix it up a bit and do things differently than you might expect.

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If I had to guess it would seem like Mysterio is conning SHIELD in some way and Peter will discover that. He'll start out as a hero but turn into a villain by the end.

Didn't spoiler tag that because that is 100 percent my own pure speculation.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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And have you ever sat through some corporate diversity training garbage?

Spoiler alert - those are ALWAYS anti-male, anti-white. I had a female coworker, an A&M grad to boot, who got up in front of one of these meetings and stated, quite matter-of-factly, that it was bad that men look at women's boobs. She had some suggestions for how to fix this "problem" but I tuned everything else she said out, as she was not worth listening to.

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You missed a perfect opportunity to say that you tuned everything else out because you were looking at her boobs.

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I thought that would have been a given. I am, after all, a scumbag white guy who likes boobs.

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Off-topic, but since someone mentioned earlier:

Can someone more knowledgeable in the comics explain the difference between Richard Ryder Nova and Sam Alexander Nova from a personality perspective? I prefer the original, because he looks cooler, but I don't really know anything about Sam.

Nova from 1970s-2000 is kind of a Spider-Man homage, always cracking jokes. I look forward to Annihilation, which I've heard is sort of his growing-up moment. But maybe Sam Alexander is equally cool - and not to go all SJW on anyone, but I can count the number of Hispanic superheroes I know on one hand. So that could be kinda neat.

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Sam Alexander doesn't sound very Hispanic.

https://heroichollywood.com/bob-iger-future-marvel-studios-movies/

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rhutton125 said:

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Off-topic, but since someone mentioned earlier:

Can someone more knowledgeable in the comics explain the difference between Richard Ryder Nova and Sam Alexander Nova from a personality perspective? I prefer the original, because he looks cooler, but I don't really know anything about Sam.

Nova from 1970s-2000 is kind of a Spider-Man homage, always cracking jokes. I look forward to Annihilation, which I've heard is sort of his growing-up moment. But maybe Sam Alexander is equally cool - and not to go all SJW on anyone, but I can count the number of Hispanic superheroes I know on one hand. So that could be kinda neat.

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Sam is actually a very cool character.

He is a legacy character, meaning he is the child of a previous hero (in this case a Nova we have not had much experience with).

He is basically learning the hero ropes as he goes, with help here and there from other heroes - both terrestrial and galactic. And that is his appeal. He is still learning the hero thing as well as defining who he is. While stil trying to be a kid and support his mom and sister as his dad is "gone".

It has not hurt they have placed him at one time or the other with pretty much every major group - The Avengers, X-Men, New Warriors, GotG, but mostly The Champions.

As for being Hispanic, they do bring it up from time to time, but it is not really a defining trait of him other that character background. But it is part of his character.

Mom is for sure Hispanic. Dad is undetermined. He is supposedly human, but evidence is that he is part alien of some sort.

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Sam is a fun character whose's personality would play great with Peter Parker on film.

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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whose's

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That one is new....

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Haha, I admit, don't even know where that came from.

Cameron.

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Feige has said that the next phase will have two distinct parts to it. I was watching youtuber who said to expect a big earth threat that will be handled by the guys more capable of handling earth threats, and a galactic threat, that will be handled by Captain Marvel types. I expect Silver Surfer to be introduced in that story line.

I didn't see Captain Marvel, but they need to fix that character. The next phase will struggle if she is supposed to lead it.

But you haven't seen the movie.

Maybe they saw endgame though?

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1 down, 1 more to go....

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This tradition is so cool.