yukmonkey said:

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I was confused when Thanos punches Captain Marvel - she doesn't even budge. Then he whips her ass. Maybe I need to see it again, but wut?

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He broke the power stone out of the gauntlet to beat her up

AgfromHOU said:

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Thor and Guardians are the only movies on that list I can get excited for. Eternals will probably end up being really good, though.

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I was going to say after reading that list that I'm just as excited, if not more, about the Winter Soldier/Falcon show and Hawkeye show as I am about any of the movies.

Captain Marvel probably should cross over with cosmic stuff more often than earth stuff, right? Seems like she would have more in common in the MCU with a Thor or Guardians film than a Spider-Man or Avengers.

I guess she can do both, or be both, as the direction of the MCU calls for.

FTACO97 said:

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Personally, I don't see Captain Marvel taking a big role in future "Avenger" type films. Possibly just showing up when necessary like in Endgame. I think something we keep forgetting is that she's essentially the Avengers for the rest of the Universe. They made that point several times in the film, that she has a lot to deal with because other planets don't have guys like the Avengers. She's more like the Green Lantern Corps of the Marvel universe. In that sense, IMO, she needs to be extremely powerful.

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I think they did that just to get her out of the way so the original crew could be the focus. I have a hard time getting excited about her if she doesn't fit into the larger MCU in a meaningful way.

Just FYI, for the record, there are probably at least five to ten movies in development, not on that list, that we have no idea about. Those are only the ones we've heard about and have been rumored so far. In other words, that's not all Marvel has planned.

TCTTS said:

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Just FYI, for the record, there are probably at least five to ten movies in development, not on that list, that we have no idea about. Those are only the ones we've heard about and have been rumored so far. In other words, that's not all Marvel has planned.

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Do you think we will get some concrete info at D23?

rhutton125 said:

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Captain Marvel probably should cross over with cosmic stuff more often than earth stuff, right? Seems like she would have more in common in the MCU with a Thor or Guardians film than a Spider-Man or Avengers.

I guess she can do both, or be both, as the direction of the MCU calls for.

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Alpha Flight or creating some Cosmic Avengers could come into play here. Didn't Feige say something about going more cosmic in the next phase? They'll have the New Avengers on Earth (Black Panther, Spider-Man, and Doctor Strange) and the Guardians, Thor, and Captain Marvel out in space. Maybe throw Nova rebuilding the Nova corps into the cosmic story line with Adam Warlock (for some reason almost said Adam Strange lol) coming into play.

So much uncertainty, but if anyone can handle it, it's Feige.

Surely. I think they're waiting for the Endgame cycle to run its course, and to finish Phase 3 up with Spider-Man, then hopefully announce at least a good chunk of Phase 4 at D23 in August. That's my guess, anyway.

Nova better damn well be in those unnamed plans.

Captain Marvel vs Galactus ?

At some point I think we have to admit that Thanos is probably the best bad guy in the marvel universe, when he's got the stones he is definitely the most powerful, and that the infinity gauntlet story is probably the best crossover story line in comic book history. So the MCU has probably used its best material already.

On the plus side they did it extraordinary well, so it's hard to complain.

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Nova better damn well be in those unnamed plans.

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I bet some are Nova, Ironheart, Sam Wilson Captain America, and Ms. Marvel. Wouldn't be surprised to get Amadeus Cho Hulk. Would much rather him than Shang-Chi.

We'll have to all make official predictions for new properties before D23. I've got some obscure ones in mind.

Not sure how reliable this is but the casting rumors so far for Eternals have been interesting at least. Richard Madden could be joining the cast as well.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/richard-madden-eternals-1203207844/

Edit: My bad didn't realize this was posted on the previous page

Alright lets talk Oscars...

I'm gonna go ahead and call it, this movie will be nominated for Best Picture, guaranteed. With the award being expanded to 10 nominees, and Black Panther opening a door last year, I don't think it's even up for debate. It will get a nom.

So the question is, what are its chances at actually winning? I know most will probably say its got no real shot, but should that be the case? I know it's tough to say since it's so early in the year and the awards season movies are so far away we probably don't even know what the contenders will be... but the way things have been trending the last few years, I certainly would back Endgame. I would put it over the last 3 winners easily (still haven't seen Spotlight).

The timing may be the biggest problem. By the time the Oscars come around the buzz will certainly have died down, but does Marvel do some kind of re-release or campaign to give it a chance? I read that they did a large screening for Academy members, so maybe they are already out in front of it.

I just don't get the stigma anymore that a blockbuster, specifically a comic book movie, can't win (and yes, The Dark Knight should've not only been nominated, but won). Was this movie not a pretty massive achievement? To balance everything the way they did, to bring together 22 movies into a story line that not only worked, but was also fantastic, well that seems like a pretty incredible piece of filmmaking to me. Why does it always have to be some small indie film about the same tired, eye-rolling, social issues over and over again to be considered an awards movie? This movie is going to be the biggest movie of all time, and it's been almost universally heralded by critics and fans alike. Is that not what the Best Picture should actually be?

I realize that another No Country For Old Men might be coming out this year and this will be a moot point, but if The Shape of ****ing Water can win, then Avengers: Endgame should get a fair shot.


TC, would love to hear your opinion

Also, I think RDJ gets nominated. I think he should be in the Best Actor category, but maybe they push for Supporting Actor for a better shot?

I say it likely gets nominated.

But what happens if The Rise of Skywalker is great too? Chances of course are that it won't be, but it's another end-of-an-era mega-blockbuster, and because it's coming out in December, right in the middle of Oscar season, I could see it POTENTIALLY getting nominated over Endgame. Ideally, they'd both get nominations, but I wonder if we're still in an era of only one token blockbuster per year making the cut, nominee-wise?

That said, and it's probably WAY to early to be saying something like this, but it doesn't look to be a super-stacked year for Best Picture nominees. As of right now, I'd say these are the most buzzed about contenders...

- A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
- Cats
- Ad Astra
- Fair and Balanced
- Ford v. Ferrari
- The Goldfinch
- The Good Liar
- The Irishman
- Joker
- The King
- The Last Thing He Wanted
- The Laundromat
- Little Women
- Lucy in the Sky
- Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
- The Report
- The Woman in the Window

... and let's be honest, probably only a third of those are going to end up being even remotely worthy. Granted, again, six months from now we might not only look at this list and laugh, but there could be five other out-of-no-where movies that do make the cut. It's so hard to say, but by this time each year, we at least have a fairly decent idea of what's going to be talked/buzzed about come Oscar season, and not a lot is truly sticking out as of now (though that can change in a hurry).

In other words, the field seems ripe this year to allow for Endgame, but that might also depend on Star Wars.

TCTTS said:

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But what happens if The Rise of Skywalker is great too?

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I asked you to take this seriously

Cats - maybe the worst, most overrated crap I've ever seen.

Sex Panther said:

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TCTTS said:

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But what happens if The Rise of Skywalker is great too?

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I asked you to take this seriously

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Son of b-tch

It's a bunch of famous actors and singers (including Judi Dench and Taylor Swift???) wearing mo-cap suits, Avatar style, to be replaced as CGI cats, acting on stages where the sets are three times as big in order to give the proper perspective. Directed by the guy who did Les Mis. I FULLY expect it to be a massive, laughable bomb, but had to include it as it's of course, for some reason, being buzzed about.

I could 100% be wrong but I don't see a scenario where Endgame gets an Oscar nod. It was a great finale to an epic franchise but it did not remotely have the standalone power that BP offered in terms of character, story, or cultural impact.

Especially considering black panther was a mediocre movie

Sex Panther said:

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TCTTS said:

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But what happens if The Rise of Skywalker is great too?

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I asked you to take this seriously

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****ing dead.

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littlebitofhifi said:

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I could 100% be wrong but I don't see a scenario where Endgame gets an Oscar nod. It was a great finale to an epic franchise but it did not remotely have the standalone power that BP offered in terms of character, story, or cultural impact.

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Cynical take: It will get the nom to draw eyes to the show.
And as a representative for the "populist" favorite, there is no better selection.

And I disagree. Endgame had much more story power and character development than BP did.

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Endgame is a top rung MCU movie. Black Panther - the character - is great. Black Panther - the movie - was a low rung MCU movie, ranked roughly along with Captain Marvel, the Iron Man sequels, and the first two Thor movies.

As for Endgame getting a BP nomination and actually winning, I'd say Probably so and Definitely not. The former because it does represent a magnificent cinematic achievement, and should be rewarded with a nomination. The latter because when has the Academy actually given the award to such a movie? Times have changed, certainly, since Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark both lost BP to what I consider to be lesser movies, Annie Hall and Chariots of Fire. I'm hard-pressed to come up with another movie of a similar vein (ie, movies that people, and not film critics/SJWs/snobby people, like). Saving Private Ryan - nominated but did not win. Beauty and the Beast (1991) - nominated but did not win. I suppose something like Gladiator or Braveheart would align closer to a ROTLA than the movie about the woman falling in love with the creature from the black lagoon that won BP recently.

No way Endgame catches Star Wars TFA. Looking at TFA, it raked in $200MM between days 11-18. This would be Monday through Sunday, a week after release. That week for TFA was the week after Christmas (12/28-1/3). That is a perfect setup for viewing. Endgame might get close, but I am guessing about $875MM. TFA was $936MM.

Internationally...I think it will surpass Avatar and could possibly catch $3BB (Presently at $2.24BB). IW received $1.3BB international. Endgame is already at $1.6BB. The international success is incredible. History shows a minimum of a 40% increase during this time of year. I think Avatar will finally get knocked off!

If Endgame wins it will be in a context like Return of the King... for a great movie but really as a catch-all for the overall achievement of the franchise. And I'd be fine with that.

I predicted earlier that Endgame would end up 2nd domestic and internationally. I think it could end up #1 international, but TFA will hold on to the #1 spot in the US. The summer movie season heats up this week.

AliasMan02 said:

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If Endgame wins it will be in a context like Return of the King... for a great movie but really as a catch-all for the overall achievement of the franchise. And I'd be fine with that.

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Ooops, I forgot about ROTK winning. And to think that is among my favorite movies of the last 20 years. Yeah, if Endgame wins, it will be just like ROTK winning.

Just watched endgame last night..loved it, but i thought Infinity War was slightly better. Still a great ending to this storyline

Great interview with the Russo brothers highlighting key events throughout the Marvel films.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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I don't condone any of the crap that "fans" have dished out on the likes of the guy who portrayed Jar Jar Binks, or the gal who was Rose. Same with Larson. There is never a reason for a mob of people to drive a person to damn near taking his own life (the Jar Jar guy).

With Larson, she said something completely stupid with regard to who should be allowed to interview her for her movie, i.e. no white guys. That kind of statement is going to tick off some people. To put it in perspective, imagine if someone was to suggest that only white people should have been allowed to interview the cast of Black Panther. That would have generated such a sh****storm of publicity that it would never have ended (and probably would have ultimately landed at the feet of Trump).

Who does she think comprises the majority of her audience for a movie like Captain Marvel or Avengers Endgame?

Having said that, she's entitled to her opinion.

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This is ****ing ridiculous and this is why its so hard to make **** actually diverse in this country.

I would love for you to find a quote where Larson said white men couldn't interview her or review her film.

Spoiler alert, it doesn't exist.

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/brie-larson-i-dont-want-to-hear-what-a-white-man-has-to-say/