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*** STAR WARS EPISODE VII Spoiler Discussion ***

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Jugstore Cowboy
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Yeah, I saw that link, but I think I'm finally done with Episode 7 spoilers. First article I've been able to keep myself from reading, and I just don't want to know anymore at this point.


Think I'm with ya at this point. I'm usually cool with spoilers, but a steady stream of spoilers over such a long period of time can end up dampening my enthusiasm.
jr15aggie
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Very disappointing... this thread pops up for the first time in weeks and everybody is all of a sudden too scared to click on a link and talk about it!!! But I get it.

The good news is that this is literally the ONLY place I ever see Star Wars talk... I do not go anywhere else looking for rumors and this is the only message board I visit (who needs another board when TexAgs has it all covered). So maybe it's for the best... if I don't get it spoiled here I won't get it spoiled at all.

I could go for a new trailer in front of The Avengers though... that will be better than spoilers anyhow.
Knife_Party
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Should get the first full length trailer at celebration in April and it should get put in front of something coming out in May. Just need to hang in there for 2 more months. I almost couldn't take the waiting any longer for the November teaser.
LeonardSkinner
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What are the odds that a director would film momentous XYZ scene for the sole purpose of letting it leak? Or even something like inviting someone to the set to make it seem like they'll be in the movie? Not part of the script, no intention of putting it in the film, etc; just a smoke screen.
Jugstore Cowboy
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Interesting idea. Filming a phony scene is probably too expensive, but it would be hilarious to have, say, Nathan Fillion photographed coming and going from a Star Wars set and "no comment" when asked.
LeonardSkinner
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With social media, a couple of well placed tweets would be enough to melt the internet.

JJ to Fillion: hey, see you on set next week?
Fillion to JJ: reading the script now, I'm ready to go

Fanboys spontaneously combust.
Saxsoon
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What I wouldn't give to be at Star Wars Weekends next year at WDW after Episode 7 is released.
Urban Ag
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We were talking about taking the kids back this summer but are going to wait until next summer so it's post Ep 7. Star Wars weekends are a hoot.
TCTTS
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Returning to the thread to bring up something I've read that isn't so much a spoiler, but rather a revelation about screen time, and I don't know how I feel about it. I wanted to gauge everyone's thoughts, because I could see this being a huge gripe come December, and I really do think it's something a lot of people, including myself, would want to know in advance (at least in the most general terms). Apparently...

Mark Hamill has only ONE scene.

And (diving slightly more into spoiler territory) it's the final scene of the movie. More of a tease for Episode VIII than anything else. It's still the same premise we've come to know - a search for Luke Skywalker - but instead of them finding him at the end of the second act or whatever, and Luke being involved in the climax to some degree, Daisy Ridley's character instead apparently delivers Luke's long lost lightsaber to him in the final scene... and that's it.

If this is true - which it definitely seems to be - will you feel somewhat cheated? Do you think people will be pissed off? Again, Luke is definitely a presence throughout the movie - he's always being talked about and referred to - but there's a chance he may not even have an actual line in the movie. Which kind of seems crazy to me.

That said, the movie itself could more than make up for his absence, and if set up properly, I could see it being one of the coolest endings/teases ever, setting up a heavy Luke Skywalker in presence in Episode VIII, which could be more than enough.

So, yeah, I'm 50/50 on this, with hope that it could actually end up being pretty awesome. That said, I'm still afraid this is going to be a huge gripe we're never going to hear the end of come December.
AliasMan02
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I'm not sure that I buy this. JJ is going to create a film that has an ending. Set things up for the future? Sure. But not a giant cliffhanger.
jabberwalkie09
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Agreed, I don't see JJ leaving the film open ended.

If that rumor is true about him being only in the final scene of the film, I can see some serious nerd rage happen across Star Wars forums. Operating under the assumption that it is true, depending on how it is handled I don't know I will have a problem with it because I am approaching this movie as the OT cast passing the baton to the next generation.
TCTTS
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I'm not sure that I buy this. JJ is going to create a film that has an ending. Set things up for the future? Sure. But not a giant cliffhanger.

It's not really a cliffhanger, in terms of the narrative. The plot doesn't hinge on it. The bad guys are defeated, there's a celebration, etc., then the final, "tacked-on" scene is apparently Ridley delivering the lightsaber to Luke. Something along those lines.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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that isn't so much a spoiler, but rather a revelation about screen time

The only thing that confuses me more than your definition of what spoilers are and what they aren't is why the Trade Federation was blockading Naboo
TCTTS
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Think the same kind of vibe as that final scene in Batman Begins, where Gordon gives Batman the Joker card. Except with a bit more substance, obviously in that Hamill is actually present, and it ties back to the movie itself.

At least that's my understanding. Again, not saying I'm on board with it, just trying to provide more context.
TCTTS
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that isn't so much a spoiler, but rather a revelation about screen time
The only thing that confuses me more than your definition of what spoilers are and what they aren't is why the Trade Federation was blockading Naboo

It's a spoiler thread. Different rules/approach.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Mark Hamill has only ONE scene.
What's your source?
Brian Earl Spilner
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that isn't so much a spoiler, but rather a revelation about screen time
The only thing that confuses me more than your definition of what spoilers are and what they aren't is why the Trade Federation was blockading Naboo
It was all a part of Palp's plan to become Chancellor. Come on bro, do you even Star Wars?
Fat Bib Fortuna
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that isn't so much a spoiler, but rather a revelation about screen time
The only thing that confuses me more than your definition of what spoilers are and what they aren't is why the Trade Federation was blockading Naboo
It was all a part of Palp's plan to become Chancellor. Come on bro, do you even Star Wars?
Even after reading Darth Plagueis 4 times, it doesn't make any sense. We blockade this one planet, we take over one city on the planet, the monarch gets away, we can't find the Gungans anywhere, then when the monarch returns to fight back, only one of our spaceships is still in orbit.
TCTTS
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Mark Hamill has only ONE scene.
What's your source?

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/star-wars-the-force-awakens-huge-spoilers-about-luke-skywalkers-involvement/
TCTTS
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They also talk a lot about it here...

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/03/episode-68-makingstarwars-nets-now-this-is-podcasting/

And I'm sure most of you guys know, but Making Star Wars knows more about this movie than anyone out there.
AliasMan02
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There will be too many question marks for one scene. There will be unknowns about his captors, what has happened, and what they wanted from him. I don't think there will be a reunion with Han or Leia, but he will certainly have something to say to his rescuers.

I guess I can see him being rescued by Ridley, her handing him the lightsaber, and him just saying "No. You'll need this to begin your training" then cut to the theme... but I think the you're back to cliffhanger.

Also, wouldnt that mean no establishing scenes showing Luke imprisoned? No scene between him and the Big Bad?
TCTTS
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I should clarify, and I assumed this was common knowledge on thread, but I guess not... we know now that Luke is no longer captured. It's a self-imposed exile.

Specifically... there's a flashback to a few years post-Return of the Jedi with a "young" Luke Skywalker (using a body double), where it's shown/explained that his Jedi Academy is raided, many of his students are killed, and that's basically what causes him to go into exile.

So to then show present-day Luke in only one scene at the end, with not a lot exposition (which has already come before), isn't that much of a stretch.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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but a few months from now, couldn't we know that it's not exile, it's something else?

If Luke & Han aren't in a scene together, I'm going to be sad
TCTTS
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but a few months from now, couldn't we know that it's not exile, it's something else?

If Luke & Han aren't in a scene together, I'm going to be sad

Absolutely. That said, it's not like it was a few months ago. A LOT more about the plot is known now, to the point where there's not near as much guess work. For instance, we now know the exact setting/planet order the heroes travel, who almost everyone is playing, etc.

And I'm right there with you, re: Luke & Han. Right now, it's looking like they don't have a scene together, but surely there's something these guys are missing. I'm hoping that's the case, at least.
AliasMan02
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Must have just missed that. Nerdfail.
AliasMan02
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I honestly doubt Han survives until Luke's last scene.
TCTTS
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I honestly doubt Han survives until Luke's last scene.

He won't. I haven't read it, but these Making of Star Wars guys know exactly how Han Solo dies in the movie, and when. I'm just hoping they missed something, and that Luke actually does show up in some capacity before that final sequence in a scene with Ford. They at least admit the they don't yet know the entire picture yet.
Knife_Party
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If we don't in fact get to see the original cast working together to defeat evil like they always have, Han dies before seeing Luke, and Luke has a 3 second scene at the end of the movie I will be PISSED and so will a lot of other star wars nerds. We're talking "did this dude just kill ****ing Chewie??!?!" pissed.
AliasMan02
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If we don't in fact get to see the original cast working together to defeat evil like they always have, Han dies before seeing Luke, and Luke has a 3 second scene at the end of the movie I will be PISSED and so will a lot of other star wars nerds. We're talking "did this dude just kill ****ing Chewie??!?!" pissed.


This movie isn't being made for the likes of you, fanboy.
Knife_Party
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I assume you're one of those people that claps when the hero's head gets blown off by the villain.
TCTTS
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If we don't in fact get to see the original cast working together to defeat evil like they always have, Han dies before seeing Luke, and Luke has a 3 second scene at the end of the movie I will be PISSED and so will a lot of other star wars nerds. We're talking "did this dude just kill ****ing Chewie??!?!" pissed.

Prepare yourself. There's a 99.9% chance we're not seeing Luke, Leia and Han together on screen again. We'll see Han and Leia together in the same scene ("together" meaning shared screen time - they're not married), and we'll likely see Luke and Leia reunited in Episode VIII, but that's about it. MAYBE Luke and Han will be on screen together, but that's not looking likely.

Like AliasMan02 said, this isn't for fanboys. This is a new generation. This is the movie that Disney needs to propel the franchise for years to come. A LOT of time will be spent establishing the new characters, with the original three catering only to the new cast's story. They can't shoehorn things in just appease the old fans.
TCTTS
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I assume you're one of those people that claps when the hero's head gets blown off by the villain.

Huh? What does that have to do with his comment???
Brian Earl Spilner
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I just hope Han bangs the **** out of Leia.
AliasMan02
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I just hope Han bangs the **** out of Leia.


If it was a premium cable show, it would be Luke and Leia gettin' it on. No lousy pity kiss in the hospital.
jabberwalkie09
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I assume you're one of those people that claps when the hero's head gets blown off by the villain.

Huh? What does that have to do with his comment???
I'm thinking someone hit the sauce a little early today....
 
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