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9:02a, 12/26/22
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Lego Luke Skywalker was frozen in carbonite for his journey to the Emperor during our recent freeze. All too easy.
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10:02a, 12/26/22
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Lots of Ahoska rumors out there today. I'm going to tag them all except for the fact that Thrawn's SD is in fact called the Chimaera, just like in Zahn's books. It also bore that name in Rebels.

Onto the rumors. These are all from Making Star Wars, which vacillates between the best scoops online and the owner being an unhinged nut job. He should post on TexAgs!

So let's talk first about Ray Stevenson.


There was a lot of speculation when he signed on that Ray would play Captain Pelleaon, Thrawn's human foil in the books who got a great cameo in the series finale of Rebels. Instead, the source says he is playing a guy named Baylon, a Jedi who fled into the Outer Rim after Order 66 with the intent of hiding and rebuilding the order, only to fall to the Dark Side. Possibly after spending time with the Night Sisters on Dathomir. If you read the original Thrawn trilogy, the idea of Thrawn paired with a Dark Side fallen Jedi is quite familiar, as he made an alliance with the cloned Joruus C'baoth.

Next, let's talk about Ivanna Sakhno, and it is no spoiler that Ivanna see a lot her.



The same report says she is somewhat of an apprentice of Baylon, possibly a Night Sister herself, and is hunting Ahsoka for unknown reasons.

Third, about Thrawn. The reports say he has an army that is either rebuilt (like cyborgs) or some kind of zombie thing happening from the Night Sisters Force Magick. That sounds kind of dumb to me on the surface, but we'll see.

Fourth, the sequel era trilogy canon, the New Republic disarmed itself pretty soon after defeating the Empire. This was done by the sitting Chancellor at the time. It forced what was left of the Empire to disarm. Princess Leia argued against it, but was shot down (figuratively). The Republic only kept 10% of its military as a Peacekeeping Organization. This allowed the Empire to rebuild into the First Order fairly quickly. The Chancellor who passed the act is Mon Mothma, and the website believes she'll have a cameo early in the table-setting of the show.



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3:26p, 12/26/22
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As I'm sitting here putting together my Xmas Lego AT-AT present (which is f'in cool BTW) a strange thought came over me….

For example on Hoth, how did the Snowtroopers that are inside the AT-AT get on the ground? Did they repel? Does the walker bend its legs to get closer to the ground? Something else?

How has it taken me over 40 years to see this peculiar problem?

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3:39p, 12/26/22
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When it's not in combat, the AT-AT can bend down to about 10 feet off the ground and use a belly ramp to unload troops. In combat, if it's necessary to get troops out, they can shimmy down cables, basically a more efficient, secure way of how Luke got up.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:46p, 12/26/22
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But at Hoth, they were in combat. So down the ropes they went?

Totally inefficient and time consuming troop delivery system. Coming from the Empire, this makes perfect sense.

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In reply to twilly • 3:52p, 12/26/22
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It's like a fast rope, not that crazy.

Fanfilm version of AT-AT deployment about 3:45



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In reply to twilly • 3:57p, 12/26/22
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twilly said:
But at Hoth, they were in combat. So down the ropes they went?

Totally inefficient and time consuming troop delivery system. Coming from the Empire, this makes perfect sense.
I don't think they needed to get out on Hoth until they had annihilated all of the exterior defenses that the Rebels had. Once the snowspeeders were accounted for and the main power generator was knocked out, nobody was worried about the AT-ATs, they were running for it. I doubt they had to repel down.
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4:01p, 12/26/22
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A couple of rebels with handheld missile launchers targeting the hatches when the troops are repelling down would solve the disembarkation design problems pretty quick.

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4:04p, 12/26/22
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I'm just in one of those moods. Watched a tv show earlier today about bad engineering designs gone wrong. Got my mind deconstructing designs and things.

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In reply to twilly • 4:08p, 12/26/22
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twilly said:
As I'm sitting here putting together my Xmas Lego AT-AT present (which is f'in cool BTW) a strange thought came over me….

For example on Hoth, how did the Snowtroopers that are inside the AT-AT get on the ground? Did they repel? Does the walker bend its legs to get closer to the ground? Something else?

How has it taken me over 40 years to see this peculiar problem?

I don't recall where I got this from but I'm pretty sure the AT ATs fold their legs under and kneel down to load/unload.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 4:58p, 12/26/22
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In reply to AliasMan02 • 6:48p, 12/26/22
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AliasMan02 said:
twilly said:
As I'm sitting here putting together my Xmas Lego AT-AT present (which is f'in cool BTW) a strange thought came over me….

For example on Hoth, how did the Snowtroopers that are inside the AT-AT get on the ground? Did they repel? Does the walker bend its legs to get closer to the ground? Something else?

How has it taken me over 40 years to see this peculiar problem?

I don't recall where I got this from but I'm pretty sure the AT ATs fold their legs under and kneel down to load/unload.
I think it's detailed in one of Zahn's books. Pelleaon is doing some training work in one and gets on one of the recruits for effing it up.
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12:37p, 12/27/22
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Cool stuff from the Coming Soon.net site on Mando season 3

The journeys of the Mandalorian through the Star Wars galaxy continue. Once a lone bounty hunter, Din Djarin has reunited with Grogu. Meanwhile, the New Republic struggles to lead the galaxy away from its dark history. The Mandalorian will cross paths with old allies and make new enemies as he and Grogu continue their journey together.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 1:24p, 12/27/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
Cool stuff from the Coming Soon.net site on Mando season 3

The journeys of the Mandalorian through the Star Wars galaxy continue. Once a lone bounty hunter, Din Djarin has reunited with Grogu. Meanwhile, the New Republic struggles to lead the galaxy away from its dark history. The Mandalorian will cross paths with old allies and make new enemies as he and Grogu continue their journey together.


Something tells me and I don't know why, that the republic is gonna **** it up somehow. Somehow the empire returns
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1:28p, 12/27/22
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random hate thought for the sequels of the day: Did Poe and the other pilots really spend minutes just circling the galaxy in hyperspace while waiting on Han and Finn to lower the shield on Starkiller Base? How the f-ck does that even work?
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In reply to redline248 • 1:33p, 12/27/22
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redline248 said:
random hate thought for the sequels of the day: Did Poe and the other pilots really spend minutes just circling the galaxy in hyperspace while waiting on Han and Finn to lower the shield on Starkiller Base? How the f-ck does that even work?
Little known fact of hyperspace is that there are roundabouts at each hyperspace waypoint. Thus, the pilots got to the waypoint and just stayed in the roundabout until they were ready to exit.
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In reply to YouBet • 1:35p, 12/27/22
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redline248 said:
random hate thought for the sequels of the day: Did Poe and the other pilots really spend minutes just circling the galaxy in hyperspace while waiting on Han and Finn to lower the shield on Starkiller Base? How the f-ck does that even work?
Little known fact of hyperspace is that there are roundabouts at each hyperspace waypoint. Thus, the pilots got to the waypoint and just stayed in the roundabout until they were ready to exit.


So it's like European Vacation only faster?
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In reply to YouBet • 1:35p, 12/27/22
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Must save a lot of computing power to do it that way
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 1:41p, 12/27/22
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maroon barchetta said:
YouBet said:
redline248 said:
random hate thought for the sequels of the day: Did Poe and the other pilots really spend minutes just circling the galaxy in hyperspace while waiting on Han and Finn to lower the shield on Starkiller Base? How the f-ck does that even work?
Little known fact of hyperspace is that there are roundabouts at each hyperspace waypoint. Thus, the pilots got to the waypoint and just stayed in the roundabout until they were ready to exit.


So it's like European Vacation only faster?
Look, kids....Coruscant, Centax-1, Centax-2.....
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In reply to redline248 • 4:26p, 12/27/22
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redline248 said:
random hate thought for the sequels of the day: Did Poe and the other pilots really spend minutes just circling the galaxy in hyperspace while waiting on Han and Finn to lower the shield on Starkiller Base? How the f-ck does that even work?


They waited in the cell phone lot
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In reply to YouBet • 10:15p, 12/27/22
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YouBet said:
maroon barchetta said:
YouBet said:
redline248 said:
random hate thought for the sequels of the day: Did Poe and the other pilots really spend minutes just circling the galaxy in hyperspace while waiting on Han and Finn to lower the shield on Starkiller Base? How the f-ck does that even work?
Little known fact of hyperspace is that there are roundabouts at each hyperspace waypoint. Thus, the pilots got to the waypoint and just stayed in the roundabout until they were ready to exit.


So it's like European Vacation only faster?
Look, kids....Coruscant, Centax-1, Centax-2.....




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7:45a, 12/28/22
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New spot out for Bad Batch. Debuts January 4th. Looks like they definitely go to both Coruscant and Kashhyyk.

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10:05p, 12/30/22
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:01a, 12/31/22
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We're binge watching S1 of bad batch and have the last 2 episodes left….wanted to make sure it was fresh in our minds when we start S2…..been enjoying the re-watch for sure
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12:12a, 12/31/22
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The only two Star Wars books I've ever read, which for some reason my mom displays in a nightstand in the room where I stay when I visit my parents, 20+ years after the fact. In neither the room nor the house where I grew up...

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12:15a, 12/31/22
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Approaching Storm was pretty mediocre.
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In reply to redline248 • 12:17a, 12/31/22
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Indeed. All the more baffling why it's still here.
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:35a, 12/31/22
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That is absolutely a mom thing to do.
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6:57a, 12/31/22
Splinter of the Mind's Eye not included?
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8:14a, 12/31/22
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Books I've read....


Legends

Old Republic era
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction by Drew Karpyshyn September 26, 2006
Darth Bane: Rule of Two by Drew Karpyshyn September 27, 2007
Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil by Drew Karpyshyn December 8, 2009

Rise of the Empire era
Darth Plagueis by James Luceno January 10, 2012
Cloak of Deception by James Luceno May 29, 2001
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter by Michael Reaves January 30, 2001
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks April 21, 1999
Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn January 31, 2006
The Approaching Storm by Alan Dean Foster January 29, 2002
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones by R. A. Salvatore April 23, 2002
Republic Commando: Hard Contact by Karen Traviss
Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover
The Clone Wars: Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy by Jason Fry
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover
The Last Jedi by Michael Reaves and Maya Kaathryn Bohnhoff
The Paradise Snare by A. C. Crispin
The Hutt Gambit by A.C. Crispin
Tales from the Empire
Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu by L. Neil Smith
Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon by L. Neil Smith
Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka by L. Neil Smith
Death Star by Michael Reaves and Steve Perry
Han Solo at Stars' End by Brian Daley
Han Solo's Revenge by Brian Daley
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy by Brian Daley
Rebel Dawn by A. C. Crispin

Rebellion era
Tales from the New Republic
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope by Alan Dean Foster
Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina
Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back by Donald F. Glut
Tales of the Bounty Hunters
Shadows of the Empire by Steve Perry
Tales from Jabba's Palace
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi by James Kahn
The Mandalorian Armor by K. W. Jeter
Slave Ship by K. W. Jeter
Hard Merchandise by K. W. Jeter
The Truce at Bakura by Kathy Tyers

New Republic era
Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor by Matthew Stover
X-Wing: Rogue Squadron by Michael A. Stackpole
X-Wing: Wedge's Gamble by Michael A. Stackpole
X-Wing: The Krytos Trap by Michael A. Stackpole
X-Wing: The Bacta War by Michael A. Stackpole
X-Wing: Wraith Squadron by Aaron Allston
X-Wing: Iron Fist by Aaron Allston
X-Wing: Solo Command by Aaron Allston
The Courtship of Princess Leia by Dave Wolverton
Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn
Dark Force Rising by Timothy Zahn
The Last Command by Timothy Zahn
X-Wing: Isard's Revenge by Michael A. Stackpole
Jedi Search by Kevin J. Anderson
Dark Apprentice by Kevin J. Anderson
Champions of the Force by Kevin J. Anderson
I, Jedi by Michael A. Stackpole
Children of the Jedi by Barbara Hambly
Darksaber by Kevin J. Anderson
X-Wing: Starfighters of Adumar by Aaron Allston
Planet of Twilight by Barbara Hambly
The Crystal Star by Vonda N. McIntyre
The Black Fleet Crisis: Before the Storm by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
The Black Fleet Crisis: Shield of Lies by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
The Black Fleet Crisis: Tyrant's Test by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
The New Rebellion by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
Ambush at Corellia by Roger MacBride Allen
Assault at Selonia by Roger MacBride Allen
Showdown at Centerpoint by Roger MacBride Allen
Specter of the Past by Timothy Zahn
Vision of the Future by Timothy Zahn
Fool's Bargain by Timothy Zahn
Survivor's Quest by Timothy Zahn

New Jedi Order era
Boba Fett: A Practical Man by Karen Traviss
The New Jedi Order: Vector Prime by R. A. Salvatore
The New Jedi Order: Dark Tide I: Onslaught by Michael A. Stackpole
The New Jedi Order: Dark Tide II: Ruin by Michael A. Stackpole
The New Jedi Order: Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial by James Luceno
The New Jedi Order: Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse by James Luceno
The New Jedi Order: Balance Point by Kathy Tyers
The New Jedi Order: Recovery by Troy Denning
The New Jedi Order: Edge of Victory I: Conquest by Greg Keyes
The New Jedi Order: Edge of Victory II: Rebirth by Greg Keyes
The New Jedi Order: Star by Star by Troy Denning
The New Jedi Order: Dark Journey by Elaine Cunningham
The New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream by Aaron Allston
The New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand by Aaron Allston
The New Jedi Order: Traitor by Matthew Stover
The New Jedi Order: Destiny's Way by Walter Jon Williams
The New Jedi Order: Ylesia by Walter Jon Williams
The New Jedi Order: Force Heretic I: Remnant by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
The New Jedi Order: Force Heretic II: Refugee by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
The New Jedi Order: Force Heretic III: Reunion by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
The New Jedi Order: The Final Prophecy by Greg Keyes
The New Jedi Order: The Unifying Force by James Luceno
Dark Nest I: The Joiner King by Troy Denning
Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen by Troy Denning
Dark Nest III: The Swarm War by Troy Denning

Legacy era
Legacy of the Force: Betrayal by Aaron Allston
Legacy of the Force: Bloodlines by Karen Traviss
Legacy of the Force: Tempest by Troy Denning
Legacy of the Force: Exile by Aaron Allston
Legacy of the Force: Sacrifice by Karen Traviss
Legacy of the Force: Inferno by Troy Denning
Legacy of the Force: Fury by Aaron Allston
Legacy of the Force: Revelation by Karen Traviss
Legacy of the Force: Invincible by Troy Denning

Fate of the Jedi: Outcast by Aaron Allston
Fate of the Jedi: Omen by Christie Golden


+10 or so canon books from after the great reset...
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I had no idea there were so many.
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 9:50a, 12/31/22
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Literature perpetuated Star Wars fandom for a long time. A lot of those books are great fun.
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