The Porkchop Express said:

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redline248 said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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My point is that the order shouldn't decide whi is a knight. A jedi can determine what to call themselves.

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Why shouldn't they? Genuinely curious. Do you think Anakin should get to tell people he's a master at the time of 3 even though the council didn't think he was at that level yet? I think he basically proved they were right.

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My point is that when there is no longer an Order or a Council, a person like Ahsoka or Luke could call themselves what they wanted. Luke tells Jabba via hologram that he's a "Jedi Knight and friend of Captain Solo." Well Yoda didn't make him one and neither did Obi-wan, so it's just Luke adopting that title for himself.

Ahsoka was offered the Knighthood and turned it down, turned her back on the Jedi during the final season of Clone Wars and again at Padme's funeral, but when the inquisitor comes for her in Tales of the Jedi, she calls Bail Organa and says shes ready to get back to it, ushering in her involvement in Rebels. I'm sure she got introduced in certain circles as Jedi Knight at that point and it made sense.

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Ok, well in your first post it seemed like you were talking about the order when it existed. There isn't an order after that to give out titles, so it's kind of moot. Though, Yoda does in fact tell Luke he's not a Jedi yet until he faces Vader again. Now, that probably had to do with Luke having to overcome all the stuff involved with that, regardless of what he'd already mastered in terms of the force.

As for Ahsoka, I don't think she'll ever consider herself a jedi, but who knows what Bail says about her. I would assume if he used jedi it would only be to the most trusted people, simply due to the risk involved throwing that out there.

No I meant if there is no order, a person with the force can call themselves what they wish. And lying, deceiving yoda shouldn't be the barometer for if luke is a jedi or not.

Non spoiler note from Ahsoka that gives me the feels.

So our Grand Admiral has been a busy boy while in exile, making new friends, and preparing to challenge the New Republic's dominance over the known regions

The Porkchop Express said:

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Non spoiler note from Ahsoka that gives me the feels.

So our Grand Admiral has been a busy boy while in exile, making new friends, and preparing to challenge the New Republic's dominance over the known regions

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How does this not get Luke's involvement?

redline248 said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Non spoiler note from Ahsoka that gives me the feels.

So our Grand Admiral has been a busy boy while in exile, making new friends, and preparing to challenge the New Republic's dominance over the known regions

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How does this not get Luke's involvement?

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I want as many OT people in this thing as possible.

The Porkchop Express said:

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redline248 said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Non spoiler note from Ahsoka that gives me the feels.

So our Grand Admiral has been a busy boy while in exile, making new friends, and preparing to challenge the New Republic's dominance over the known regions

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How does this not get Luke's involvement?

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I want as many OT people in this thing as possible.

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ooh oooh oooh...can we get Ewan as Force Ghost Obi-Wan?

This will be the moment they decide to just recast Luke

In the spirit of the season, my wife found this parody song based on the Christmas song "Mary did you know?"

Why? Maybe it won't be Mark Hamill acting, but the tech has gotten better and better with the younger Luke face and voice. We can't be far off from any actor in history being in modern movies digitized over stand in bodies

JCRiley09 said:

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Why? Maybe it won't be Mark Hamill acting, but the tech has gotten better and better with the younger Luke face and voice. We can't be far off from any actor in history being in modern movies digitized over stand in bodies

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I think the cameo in BOBF was clearly to test if they could do it across several scenes with the intent of a cross-platform event down the line with Luke, Ahsoka, Grogu and the Mandalorians in some massive event.

There's nothing wrong with recasting Luke. It should be done, in fact. Even as good as the deepfaking is, I'd still prefer a really good recast.

It just doesn't make sense to cast a mark hamill look a like when the tech is where it's at. Think of the progression from Rogue One to Mando to Boba. That's 5-6 years. Now think where we'll be in another 5 years

JCRiley09 said:

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Why? Maybe it won't be Mark Hamill acting, but the tech has gotten better and better with the younger Luke face and voice. We can't be far off from any actor in history being in modern movies digitized over stand in bodies

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It worked in The Running Man.

AliasMan02 said:

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OR, you nerds, Jedi Knight is the term they can use that's clearest in intent to the broadest audience, without having to split all these hairs.

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Now you are just advocating for anarchy.

I watched the Count Dooku episodes in Tales of the Jedi last night and those were well done.

And now I'm kind of a fan of Dooku. He just hated bureaucracy and hypocrisy is all. I get that and can relate.

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It just doesn't make sense to cast a mark hamill look a like when the tech is where it's at. Think of the progression from Rogue One to Mando to Boba. That's 5-6 years. Now think where we'll be in another 5 years

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It's getting better and better, but it's not like I forget I'm looking at CGI when I see it. And you still need people to ACT.

I love Mark, but the character is way bigger than him, and it's not like he's a top notch actor. I'm all for seeing what someone else can bring to the role, informed by everything Mark established.

They can recast Luke when both Mark Hamill and I are dead.

The same goes for Cock-Knocker!

AliasMan02 said:

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JCRiley09 said:

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It just doesn't make sense to cast a mark hamill look a like when the tech is where it's at. Think of the progression from Rogue One to Mando to Boba. That's 5-6 years. Now think where we'll be in another 5 years

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It's getting better and better, but it's not like I forget I'm looking at CGI when I see it. And you still need people to ACT.

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That's really the biggest issue. If you didn't know you were looking at it there's a good chance you wouldn't notice, but you know it's CG and can't forget that.

That said…

https://instagr.am/p/CIQkrzeD4Os

Reminds me of how freaking awesome that whole sequence was. Patrick Stewart's monologue before the thing, oh man.

The deep fakes are good enough you could pull off Hamill. But remember our conversation presumably in the Mandalorian thread or in this one at how utterly awful the CGI was for him in the Mandalorian episode. It's as if they made a decision to use tech that was 15 years old.

Meanwhile, we were watching YT deep fake videos put out by newb69 that ran circles around ILM or whosever it was that did CGI Luke. Amateur hour for that episode on that front.

The Porkchop Express said:

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fig96 said:

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That said…

https://instagr.am/p/CIQkrzeD4Os

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Wow it's Sebastian Stan in Sandy Duncan's wig from Peter Pan.

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I don't think we recognize often enough how truly bad Luke's hair was. But this helps.

Mary Elizabeth Winstead’s Star Wars: Ahsoka Role Revealedhttps://t.co/Pas65hZlTY

— ComingSoon.net (@comingsoonnet) December 24, 2022

TCTTS said:

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Mary Elizabeth Winstead’s Star Wars: Ahsoka Role Revealedhttps://t.co/Pas65hZlTY

— ComingSoon.net (@comingsoonnet) December 24, 2022

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Interesting, I like it. She's transitioned into quite the action star recently, didn't see that coming.

Along with Birds of Prey she did a Netflix action film called Kate that's worth a watch if you're into a fun violent revenge action thriller, pretty predictable but solid action sequences.