Ani and Quo Gone:
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It will be in the opening crawl. It'll explain how Leia put together a massive army that crushed Kylo Ren and the First Order in an epic an inspiring battle that happened off-screen. It'll go on to say that Kylo killed Leia in the battle and that, despondent, he turned his lightsaber upon himself and that peace has been restored in the galaxy. This will leave the next 2-3 hours to further explore the relationship between Rose, Finn, Rey and Poe. And yes, the movie theater employees would still have to mop the tears and jizz from under Spilner's seat.Quote:
JJ will include a 5 second blurb about how the first order jammed transmissions from that planet and that's why they didn't get help.
9 will end with the NEW NEW Republic senate setting up trade agreements throughout the galaxy.
#ringthoery
#ringthoery
Flashdiaz said:
Ani and Quo Gone:
I happened to catch the end of Episode 3 last night on TNT or whatever channel was doing a Star Wars marathon, and it got me thinking (nerd-out here). How can Anakin be a force ghost when he clearly wasn't taught how? Qui Gon learned it and told Yoda. Yoda shared that with Obi Wan, who uses the knowledge in his final battle vs Vader. Luke presumably learned it while in exile from the ancient texts he's collected and so becomes one with the Force at the end of TLJ. But again, how did Anakin learn the way and become a force ghost?
Because that stuff about learning to do it was retconned in Ep 3, and it left a plot hole.
How does Leia remember Padme?
How does Leia remember Padme?
DB Coach said:
I happened to catch the end of Episode 3 last night on TNT or whatever channel was doing a Star Wars marathon, and it got me thinking (nerd-out here). How can Anakin be a force ghost when he clearly wasn't taught how? Qui Gon learned it and told Yoda. Yoda shared that with Obi Wan, who uses the knowledge in his final battle vs Vader. Luke presumably learned it while in exile from the ancient texts he's collected and so becomes one with the Force at the end of TLJ. But again, how did Anakin learn the way and become a force ghost?
It's a continuity issue, for sure.
I would guess it was retconned because of people asking "why aren't there Sith force ghosts?"
So, typical Tuesday night?Brian Earl Spilner said:
If they brought back Anakin, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, and Yoda in one scene, the cleaners are gonna have a bad time mopping up the floor below my seat, a mixture of tears and jizz.
redline248 said:
I would guess it was retconned because of people asking "why aren't there Sith force ghosts?"
Originally the intent was certainly that every "good" Jedi became a Force Ghost.
So, basically, Jedi Heaven.
That actually is pretty perfect
wangus12 said:
And already posted on the last page.
Damn it, how did I miss that?
That was funny.TCTTS said:
I lost it at redemption for Star Wars kid. BTW, is Star Wars boy the best thing to come out the prequels?
Was it really retconned, though? It's obvious that Vader did not kill Obi Wan. What was the original explanation for it?AliasMan02 said:redline248 said:
I would guess it was retconned because of people asking "why aren't there Sith force ghosts?"
Originally the intent was certainly that every "good" Jedi became a Force Ghost.
Can force ghosts go on forever, or is there an expiration date on them? For some reason in my head I always assumed they only had so many minutes ghosting before it ran out.
israeliag said:
Can force ghosts go on forever, or is there an expiration date on them? For some reason in my head I always assumed they only had so many minutes ghosting before it ran out.
In the old EU that was the case, as I remember. They eventually faded.
Now they are part of the Living Force and are essentially immortal, though one of the short stories about Qui Gon appearing to Obi Wan (after Luke ran off to check on Lars and Beru) I think talked about growing less and less concerned with the material works the longer he was removed from it.
This is unknown. We've only had 4 Jedi ever that did it. Qui-Gon, Kenobi, Anakin and Yoda. Yoda has been dead for about 30 years at the time he shows up in Last Jedi.
I should say "possibly unknown"
I should say "possibly unknown"
DB Coach said:Was it really retconned, though? It's obvious that Vader did not kill Obi Wan. What was the original explanation for it?AliasMan02 said:redline248 said:
I would guess it was retconned because of people asking "why aren't there Sith force ghosts?"
Originally the intent was certainly that every "good" Jedi became a Force Ghost.
Vader did kill Obi Wan, but because of his training and preparation, his physical form vanished. As opposed to, say, Qui Gon, who had not mastered that aspect of the Force. He completed his mastery of it after his death.
Was what Obi Wan did in A New Hope the same as what Luke did in the Last Jedi:?
This may be due to tricky editing, but I have always thought Obi-Wan's body disappeared a split second before getting sliced by Vader.
I think he "decided" to become one with the force similar to Luke in TLJ.
I think he "decided" to become one with the force similar to Luke in TLJ.
I think essentially, yes. I also think that Luke died in TLJ, and didn't just transcend or whatever.AGGies0311 said:
Was what Obi Wan did in A New Hope the same as what Luke did in the Last Jedi:?
If you want to change to cover for your copy of TLJ
Do you have one with the dead porg that Chewie bbq'ed?
is there something to change the content of the movie?wangus12 said:
If you want to change to cover for your copy of TLJ
If there is a hi res version I will print it out poster sized and hang it in the game room.
it would be almost as bad as Luke throwing his saber over his shoulder....only worse.Brian Earl Spilner said:
If they brought back Anakin, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, and Yoda in one scene, the cleaners are gonna have a bad time mopping up the floor below my seat, a mixture of tears and jizz.
Just watched on youtube and the cloak begins to fall literally at the moment the light saber makes contact. But from the top of the hood down. Man, for over 40 years ago it's a really well made scene with the cloak dropping just as the effects of the light saber reach it.Brian Earl Spilner said:
This may be due to tricky editing, but I have always thought Obi-Wan's body disappeared a split second before getting sliced by Vader.
I think he "decided" to become one with the force similar to Luke in TLJ.
I remember wondering why/how the hood stayed on the whole time they were fighting. Obvious, it was required for the effect as it was shot from the side view.
This has always been my thought as well. I've never once thought Vader "killed" him.Brian Earl Spilner said:
This may be due to tricky editing, but I have always thought Obi-Wan's body disappeared a split second before getting sliced by Vader.
I think he "decided" to become one with the force similar to Luke in TLJ.
Interesting the way people see the same thing and have different takes. I always thought he was killed by Vader's saber. "If you strike me down..." and all that
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