I'd be willing to bet a large amount of money on those three releases happening exactly as such.

Yep, this. They have no reason to change the formula now.

Have I mentioned how excited I am to be attending Celebration next year?

Spot on.

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Put together a quick Episode IX schedule for reference, since production officially kicks off later this month and I know people will be asking...

July 2018 - January 2019
Production, aka Principal Photography / Filming
(we all still hate Star Wars and are boycotting this movie; F- RJ)

January 2019
Likely official title announcement (based on past precedent)
(50% think what kind of name is that?! 50% think "what does THIS mean?!")

Spring 2019
Likely when John Williams begins recording his final Star Wars score ever
(the bickering continues)

April 11-15, 2019 - Star Wars Celebration Chicago
Likely release of the first Teaser Trailer
(75% "OH MY GOD:; 20% "okay maybe"; 5% "Nope, still F- Disney"

Summer 2019
Scheduled reshoots/pickups
(40% "another Reshoot? what is going on here?"; 40% "oh good, they are fixing it to perfection"; 20% "huh?"

August 23-26, 2019 - D23 Anaheim
Likely release of the traditional Behind-the-Scenes Featurette
(Neat; oh and did you see the color of the reflection in the Faclon's cockpit, I wonder what THAT could mean!!!!)

October 2019
Likely release of the Final Trailer
(MAX HYPE 99%)

December 18, 2019

Rotten Tomatoes fan scoring takes shape; and internets does its thing
(F- JJ ABRAMS, KENNEDY, and DISNEY FOR RUINING MY CHILDHOOD AND MY LIFE, F- LUCAS, F- JAR JAR, F- CHROMEDOME, F- FINN, F- ROSE, F- REY, oh hey Kylo you were pretty cool again...)

December 20, 2019
Theatrical Release Date
(Packed Theaters, Disney making $$$)

April 2020
Likely streaming / Blu-ray release
(I guess I'll watch it again for the 6th time to see if my opinion has changed since interwebz in December)

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I added another date and some details.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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December 21, 2019
Bangobango begins his incessant *****ing

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Technically, that's when everyone else starts our incessant *****ing. We run out of steam around June 2020 and THAT'S when bangobango and render begin THEIR incessant *****ing.

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Hey! I'm not a sniveling, complaining, Internet armchair critic that b*tches to strangers on the Internet!

Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to talk to y'all about why SW sucks and why no one should have any fun watching it. I've created an 18 point list. Number 1: The Story...

So Frosty was wrong or making **** up.

Or this is fake news. (But I hope not.)

I get the excitement over an Obi-Wan movie. But here is what gets me...

Obi-Wan's job, as instructed by Yoda was to protect Luke. He did this by placing Luke on Tatooine with his Aunt and Uncle. The purpose of doing this was to bring as little attention to Luke as possible by placing him on that craptastic rock of a planet. Leia is being protected by the Organa's, and I assume Obi-Wan isn't directly involved in keeping her safe.

Making yourself a hermit and staying isolated for years to protect the future Jedi order sound like a pretty darn important job, but a pretty lousy plot for a movie if you ask me. I'm assuming the movie will have to have Obi-Wan going off world to fight some evil element that would be a threat to Luke, Leia, or other things Jedi. Otherwise we get two hours of Obi-Wan bouncing back and forth between Mos Eisley VFW Hall and Toche Station *****ing about how cold the place is like all old people do.

Hopefully, he runs into some scum and villainy in Mos Eisley in his travels as well.

Only downside to the Kenobi movie is that I'm SO SURE that my characterization of him from my little treatment is the right one, I'm not sure if I can handle anything else.

You are correct, there would be endless amazing stories with him being an "invisible" guardian. In fact, I'm guessing that's the way the movie will develop with him as a silent protector.

But if evil doer's start making runs at the the one thing you are charged with protecting, maybe it's time to consider a better hiding place that what you currently have going on?

I'm looking forward to this movie just as much as others are on here. But I also believe in the continuity of the story line as presented in the books/cartoons/movies, and I think this will have to be addressed in the movie.

Questions like...
- If somebody finds out Luke is the son of Vader, how come Vader isn't told about it?
- If somebody senses Obi-Wan on Tatooine (like Maul did in Rebels), how does the Emperor/Vader not know about it, or better yet, how could a dark force type be cruising the galaxy hunting Jedi without ties to the Empire?

There are many more questions I could ask. I just feel the story will have to delve into why somebody is going after Luke/Obi-Wan and why the connection between those two and Vader never makes it back to the Empire.

A thought just occurred to me, maybe the connection does make it back to the Emperor, but he withholds it from Vader as a potential "poker hand" to play against Vader at a later date? That would make for sweet irony!

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I also love the idea of Obi-Wan being caught in a situation where some other person or group absolutely needs his help. To the point where not assisting or getting involved would result in a terrible tragedy, or worse, would even have dire implications beyond just Tatooine. But getting involved would also mean not having eyes on Luke 24/7 and Obi-Wan has to make a decision or compromise.

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Maul uses a great line in Rebels (cartoon) in regards to drawing Kenobi out of hiding, "I will tempt his noble heart".

Part of Obi-Wan's struggle isn't just keeping Luke safe, but keeping himself unknown. He can't just go all Jedi on any bad-guys, which will be a nice wrinkle to add to the tension.

This idea of exploring what Obi was doing all of those years would make for a perfect season or two of TV rather than a one-off movie. And McGregor has proven he'll do TV.

I don't recall Yoda instructing Obi Wan "never, leave Tatooine, you must". I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves to assume Obi was playing hover uncle for 20 straight years.

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- If somebody senses Obi-Wan on Tatooine (like Maul did in Rebels), how does the Emperor/Vader not know about it, or better yet, how could a dark force type be cruising the galaxy hunting Jedi without ties to the Empire?

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Couple of scenarios.

Vader was Pals servant, not his BFF. Palps would sell out Vader in a heartbeat if he believed it would position him better just like sold he out Dooku in the process of turning Anakin. Also, in ESB, Palps says "the Son of Skywalker" when speaking to Vader which could be used as canon that Palps was aware who Luke was.

Another option could be some new villain at odds with Vader to unseat him as Palps #2 guy. He figures out (somehow) who Luke is and where and believes that delivering the son Skywalker to the Emperor will curry him favor so he keeps it all under wraps.

so many possibilities

Also, reminder that Joel Edgerton played Owen Lars.

The whole idea of hiding him with a relative always was a weak plot point. I'm sure the movie will work.

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What TC said.

There have been some awesome ideas thrown out on the Obi-Wan thread. What's great is it's a pretty blank slate for a solid 20 years, so the possibilities are pretty endless.



Side note: How would people feel about potentially having Vader as a major character / side-plot?

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I don't like it, because in ANH; there is alot of dialogue around them not meeting for a long time:

"a presence I've not felt since..."
"When last we met I was but a learner. Now I am the Master."

Agree completely, Vader shouldn't know that Obi-Wan is alive.

But do we ever learn at what point Obi-Wan learns that Vader is Anakin?

I'm thinking there could be a cool way to have a parallel plot of Vader hunting the Jedi, and someone working for Vader who discovers Obi-Wan, but is not able to make it back to inform him. Make it seem like the storylines are about to converge but it ends up being a very close call at the end.

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- If somebody senses Obi-Wan on Tatooine (like Maul did in Rebels), how does the Emperor/Vader not know about it, or better yet, how could a dark force type be cruising the galaxy hunting Jedi without ties to the Empire?

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Couple of scenarios.

Vader was Pals servant, not his BFF. Palps would sell out Vader in a heartbeat if he believed it would position him better just like sold he out Dooku in the process of turning Anakin. Also, in ESB, Palps says "the Son of Skywalker" when speaking to Vader which could be used as canon that Palps was aware who Luke was.

Another option could be some new villain at odds with Vader to unseat him as Palps #2 guy. He figures out (somehow) who Luke is and where and believes that delivering the son Skywalker to the Emperor will curry him favor so he keeps it all under wraps.

so many possibilities

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Lucas changed that dialog three or four times, I'm not sure what's canon.