Very good choice. While I never got much past the first season she was one my favorite reasons to watch the show, and not just because of a pretty face

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He'd make it into another anti-capitalism visualathon like Pandora.

Jai Courtney set to play Kyle Reese...

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/terminator-kyle-reese-jai-courtney-1200827966/

This guy has been in some horrible movies (A Good Day to Die Hard, I, Frankenstein), and has always seemed to me like some kind of Fast & Furious reject, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Also, I talked to a friend a couple weeks ago who has loose ties to the production, and he said the filmmakers are, first and foremost, ignoring Terminator 3 and Terminator: Salvation. And they're picking a specific scene in Terminator 2 that they're basically going to recreate, and then, using time travel, veer the story off in a new/different direction. Kind of like the Star Trek reboot, but they've actually selected a specific moment from T2 to reuse as their starting point, instead of just "rebooting" before the events of the previous movies, a la Trek. It'll definitely be interesting to see where they go with this...

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Though, I still can't get over the fact that a 67-year-old Schwarzenegger is somehow playing a Terminator again. Surely there's some kind of caveat.

I am extremely stoked to see Emilia Clarke as Sarah Connor! I hope she keeps getting more and bigger roles over here.

And I am interested in Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese. In your examples of bad movies above, I think he actually did a pretty good job of making the best out of bad situation. I thought he did a good job in those movies and it was more a case of the script and production getting out of hand than his performance that made them bad situations for him.

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I did like Jai in Jack Reacher, too.

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^ Good to hear, because I didn't see either movie. I guess I've actually never seen him act outside of trailers.

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And they're picking a specific scene in Terminator 2 that they're basically going to recreate, and then, using time travel, veer the story off in a new/different direction. Kind of like the Star Trek reboot, but they've actually selected a specific moment from T2 to reuse as their starting point, instead of just "rebooting" before the events of the previous movies, a la Trek.

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Ok, that actually sounds pretty awesome, considering T2 is one of my favorite movies. Not digging the new Kyle Reese though. For one, he's way too big. Go with a Michael Biehn type.

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For one, he's way too big. Go with a Michael Biehn type.

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Since Emilia Clarke is so tiny, I guess I'm ok with this. Together, they'll create the "average"-sized Jason Clarke / John Connor.

Which reminds me of something else my friend told me: Kyle Reese is the lead. With Sarah apparently getting second billing and John third. It's still a big role, obviously, but this definitely isn't a John Connor-central story. My guess is he'll become more prominent in the sequels.

Obviously you can't discuss these types of movies without running into some sort of time paradox, but Kyle Reese should be dead in the T2 universe.

In the "original" future, he has already been sent back to 1984 and died. In T2, the future still hasn't been altered until the very end, so Reese should still be gone in both the "present" T2 universe, and the future.

Unless T1 created a new timeline (which it didn't, since the original Terminator was the basis for their creation in the first place), it is a paradox.

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^ My friend could have misspoke - and maybe it's a scene from the original they're recreating - but he specifically said Terminator 2 more than once. Besides, with time travel, I'm sure it's an easy fix to work around.

Any mention of which scene? If it's the Cyberdyne scene, I could see it making sense, since once it blows up the future is instantly altered.

^ He either couldn't remember, or didn't know. Sounded like he wasn't super-familiar with T2. Again, he's not involved with the production, but has a good friend who's super-involved with the production. Like, as close as you can possibly be. So he was telling me all of this second-hand, and we only discussed it for a couple minutes. In situations like this, I try not to ask a ton of questions.

I've been trying to think what time-travel scenes in T2 could veer off in another direction? There's only the two, when each Terminator arrives, right? Then again, to recreate a scene, maybe it is something more memorable - like the Cyberdyne scene - and that alters something in the future, thus allowing Reese to come back to any point they want? No clue.

Correct. The only time travel you ever saw was the Terminators and Kyle Reese arriving in 1.

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You could have a new time traveler arrive at any point in the movie (or all of time for that matter) and start changing things from that point forward.

one of the best scenes of all time imho is in T2 when Sarah is on the ground in the hospital and she sees Arnold coming out towards her and she's in total shock and fear.

TCTTS did you ever watch the Stars show Spartacus: Blood and Sand? Jai Courtney had a fairly major role in it and did a pretty good job.

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Also, I talked to a friend a couple weeks ago who has loose ties to the production, and he said the filmmakers are, first and foremost, ignoring Terminator 3 and Terminator: Salvation. And they're picking a specific scene in Terminator 2 that they're basically going to recreate, and then, using time travel, veer the story off in a new/different direction. Kind of like the Star Trek reboot, but they've actually selected a specific moment from T2 to reuse as their starting point, instead of just "rebooting" before the events of the previous movies, a la Trek. It'll definitely be interesting to see where they go with this...

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So, the Sarah Connor Chronicles, basically.

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one of the best scenes of all time imho is in T2 when Sarah is on the ground in the hospital and she sees Arnold coming out towards her and she's in total shock and fear.

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I've loved T2 since I was a kid, but never saw The Terminator until I was around 13 or so. Made that scene that much more impactful.

Jason Clarke was great in ZD30 and "The Chicago Code," but I can't see him as a John Connor type

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Wow that was him! I thought he did great in Die Hard and actually was surprised I hadn't seen him before... guess I did.

Something just seems wrong about rebooting terminator. Such an iconic movie. I mean what other roles than schwarzenegger's terminator are so cemented to one actor and had a successful reboot? The only one I can think of is Heath ledger as the joker. I had thought it would always be jack Nicholson but heath's version was excellent.

if they are just ignoring T3 and Salvation is it really a true reboot?

I am just glad we don't have to listen to Bale annoying raspy lisp anymore

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Wife and I were watching some of "Terminator" the other night while browsing channels. Goodness, how did I never realize how horrendous the acting was? Linda Hamilton and Michael Biehn were just awful. Like about as bad as you would expect random people plucked off the street to be. I kind of remembered him being cheesy, but she was unbelievably bad as well.

Jai Courtney has made do with some bad movies. I have enjoyed him personally.

Hamilton's tits.

Hamilton and Biehn are Oscar caliber compared to Eddie Furlong. He was the worst. "She's gonna blow him away!"

all of this couldve been avoided if skynet wouldve killed john connor's grandmother...

Plot-wise, here's what might be "confirmation" of what I was saying a couple weeks ago, just with a few more details. Back to the Future II is a great comparison...

http://moviehole.net/201473984exclusive-more-original-characters-returning-for-new-terminator

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I’m still unsure how they’ll explain Schwarzenegger’s ‘older’ look (or maybe they won’t?) but one thing I’m pretty certain is, this will play super fresh and regenerate the series – thus the two sequels the filmmakers already have planned. Having only been told a miniscule amount about it, “Terminator : Genesis” sounds magnificent. This could quite possibly be the film of 2015.

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Funny how I read that article and have almost the opposite reaction. It could definitely be cool in the right hands, but it's gonna take some serious skill to pull it off. Hopefully Alan Taylor knows what he's doing...

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Thanks to that ever-dependable alternate timeline device, and time-travel (which has always been a part of the series), Taylor’s film will take us back and forward between the future, 1984 (“The Terminator”), 1991 (“Terminator 2 : Judgement Day”) and other important and influential time periods in the life of the Connor family.

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FWIW, T2 was released in '91 but was set in '94.

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Its just a shame that McG f'ed up the last one so badly. There was a lot of potential in that storyline, and I'm a big fan of Bale. Whoever put McG in charge should never get to make another Hollywood-related decision again.

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I thought it was one of the best movie trailers ever. Then I saw the movie....

I think it would be cool if Schwarzenegger was one of the scientist's grandfathers, former body builder idolized by his grandson. He uses grandad as the template for the cyborg that eventually becomes the T101. As in, he's the only image in the database in an old file when Skynet becomes self aware and starts designing.