what was with the swat team busting the house open- couldn't tell who knocks dexter down- they did a nice job editing

This show needs something to liven it up, the last two seasons are awful compared to the first two. The ineptitude of the police is laughable, Dexter is getting sloppy and we have the same stupid arch of Dexter chasing a new serial killer. It's still entertaining, but not much above the level of entertainment CSI brings.

I couldn't really disagree with you more on CSI...

Great ending. Dexter's sloppiness in getting back to his "good brother cover" with Deb just cost him his identity. Lithgow is still nailing his part down flawlessly.

Can't wait to see how this all "ends" for the season.

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It's still entertaining, but not much above the level of entertainment CSI brings.

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wow.

i'd say that this season is head and shoulders ahead of the ice truck killer season.

Can't wait for Sunday, does anyone know if it's longer than an hour? There's a lot to get in from the previews, Deb finding out about Dexters mom, Trinity's family involved somehow, Dex trying to kill Trinity, and that whole swat team business.

At least they seem to have wrapped up the lauerta-batista love story.

from what ive heard, its going to be effing crazy and a cliff hanger so we wont really know what happened.

Here's a pretty good summary of how I feel from an anonymous poster on Sepinwall's blog.

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Unfortunately, Dexter may be reaching the dreaded "That's It For Me!" status. So much of this season has been filler, and so much of each episode is now filled with the cliches of network procedurals (a murder of the week, following by a few plot points to slowly advancing the season-long narrative). If the writers simply plan to trot out a notable character actor each season as the chief villain, and then have Dexter play cat and mouse with that villain for the season until the final confrontation in the final episodes, then they are preserving a tired formula and stagnating the show.

What Dexter, and Miami Metro for that matter, need are consequences for their actions. About the only way the show can have some new life is if Dexter is caught or identified by someone on the force (not unlike what happened with Doakes, but something that has some lasting consequences). Seeing Rita or Deb react in horror would inject some real emotion into the program. Otherwise, we are left with the aforementioned murder of the week and the season long cat and mouse which must be prolonged with too much filler.

Finally, the antics at Miami Metro are becoming too silly. Angle and LaGuerta marry to foil a review board? Sigh. And by the way, these have to be the worst cops in the universe to have Dexter working there undetected for years and years, for Deb to be engaged to the Ice Truck killer, for Quinn's reporter girlfriend to be a murderer, et cetera, et cetera. This show, and this case, need to be shaken up dramatically for this show to remain interesting. They've already neutered Dexter by removing so many of his sociopathic traits from the first season.

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Can't wait for Sunday, does anyone know if it's longer than an hour? There's a lot to get in from the previews, Deb finding out about Dexters mom, Trinity's family involved somehow, Dex trying to kill Trinity, and that whole swat team business.

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I knew I should stay away from here because of the possible spoilers. Talking about AIRED episodes is fine, but talking about scenes from episodes that have not is not OK. Many people DO NOT watch the upcoming scenes for a reason.

Maybe you shouldn't read posts on a forum about a show. Every week we talk about the upcoming show and what we think might happen. If you've watched the show enough you realize the upcoming scenes really don't give much away and there's always a twist somewhere.

Not to mention the fact that his post starts with "Theres a lot to cover from the previews"

You could have just stopped reading there.

This show is still awesome week to week. I think this has been my favorite season so far. Lithgow is probably a large reason for that.

And to the poster saying it is getting boring...how are they supposed to really shake it up and have dexter have consequences for what he does, but not have him arrested or killed? I dont think he is going to get shown any mercy by the cops if he gets caught. I am perfectly happy with the formula they have and I think it works as long as they keep throwing in minor twists. I dont think there need to be any huge shake-ups on the show. Also, I think it is interesting how they are changing Dexter from a straight sociopath to someone who actually does care about certain (although few) people in his life. I think it is a lot more interesting watching that than just having him fake everything all the time. I was actually very surprised that the punch that he gave his neighbor this last episode was out of anger and not something that he did because he knew Rita was watching.

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Not to mention the fact that his post starts with "Theres a lot to cover from the previews"

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If I head read that I would have, I was just skimming and saw that. If there was the normal spoiler warning with a few lines below I would have been able to skip it.

I did like the whole punch the neighbor bit. It was a nice touch.

So it was your fault for skimming? I didn't write any spoilers, just what I saw in the scenes from next week, and there's always a twist in everything they show.

What do you care if you see a spoiler? Its all so formulaic to you anyways...

There hasn't been a kill a week this season. Many of the episodes deal with dexter juggling all of his different personas and figuring out where he really is. He's made a transition from a monster in hiding to a real person with a family that has a dark passenger always with him. He gets sloppier as he moves away from being a wolf in sheep's clothing.

IIRC he has only made a couple kills for pleasure all season long. The rest of it has been taken up with the other stories.

Any storyline that laguerta is involved in is pretty much going to suck, so try not to pay attention.

If all you see is "weekly kills" with an overarching hunt for a serial killer this season, then you aren't watching close enough.

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then have Dexter play cat and mouse with that villain for the season until the final confrontation in the final episodes

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Do you want them to have a final confrontation midway through the season?

I think having him meet and interact with Trinity halfway through the season was a pretty interesting idea.

If Dexter gets caught the show would have to get a byline. Dexter: Sitting on Death Row

A solid hour every week of him in a cell, with a 10 minute recess of shooting hoops. Thrilling.

What this show needs and I hope is coming next episode is Rita or Deb finding out about Dexter.

I have a hard time buying Dexter's transition into having feelings, all we heard for 2 seasons was how he couldn't and then boom, he is all touchy feely and super stupid.

I will say, Deb has done a much better job this season, both from the writers perspective and her acting.

Dexter getting caught is an endgame...

He got humanized when he had a kid, I'm told that kind of thing changes you...

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all we heard for 2 seasons was how he couldn't and then boom, he is all touchy feely and super stupid.

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maybe having a kid will do that to a person.

...and I wouldn't really call him "touchy feely". The guy still doesn't realize that he should be mad at his wife for making out with the neighbor.

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As hard as I try I can't rationalize the lack a sketch artist rendering of Trinity from the kid or any security footage from the abduction.

I'm sure I've missed larger holes in the series before but that's down right Sopranos FBI level stupidity.

well there was no security footage because trinity stole the tape.

The child was abducted in a different area and presumably a different police dept. handled the case. so maybe a sketch artist was used but it had not been circulated yet.


I dunno, just trying to offer up an explanation

It wouldn't matter if the kid helped make a sketch... it wouldn't be linked to trinity. Dexter is the only one that has made the connection.

It would just be an abduction case.

ORAggieFan,

I agree with some of your post. What originally got me interested in the Sapranos was that (at least) one of the main characters was killed every season. Thus making the plots and story lines always fresh and entertaining. Main characters this close to so many killers HAVE to get killed occasionally, and only Doakes and Lundy have been killed in 4 seasons.

The only thing that really gets unbelievable for me is all the crazy "relationships" of the main characters to the killers. There's too much of that for my liking.



But I totally disagree with the premise that there is a "murder of the week" and a ubiquitous "main bad guy" for Dexter to go after every season.

Let's not forget, Dexter IS a serial killer, and thus killing IS what he does. Do you want a season of no killing? Or a season with no main nemesis for Dexter?

I think the writers have done an excellent job mixing up the killers everyone is chasing. Ice Truck, then Bay Harbor Butcher (and framing Doakes for it), then throwing a change-up with DA Prado. Mix in the Skinner, the Vacation Murderer (we still don't know who this is), and other small "kills" with different plot lines and it always seems new and fresh for me. The sub-plot with the couple smuggling illegal aliens was awesome for me. The scene where Dexter watched Prado make his first kill was one of the most intense and some of the most electrifying acting I've seen in years.

This year they really mix it up with Trinity. All totally different in character and theme. Dexter finds a nemesis he wants to learn "fake" human emotions from, and it turns out he actually DOES have emotions, thus expanding the depth and evolution of Dexter.

Why are almost all the posts about the scenes from next week? Which I don't see?

Rudy,

Why don't you see them?

Cause we've already seen this week's episode and it is interesting to guess what will happen next week based on the preview clips that you don't see.

This is the only discussion that does this.

I get it on a torrent, and they don't show that.

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nice.

So we should be sorry for you because you STEAL from Showtime?

Way to keep the Aggie Honor Code, dude.

That's classic, he watches the show for free and *****es when someone talks about the upcoming scenes...

Rudy,

Step up and order Showtime like the rest of us, or quit beetching. You sound like a puss.

I wasn't *****ing...all I was saying is that it's odd that all the conversations are about upcoming episodes.

You don't find that odd? Read every other thread about a show, and you don't see that.

On some threads, those are considered spoilers.

And why should I get Showtime for 1 show?? That'd be silly.

I don't think it's strange that we talk about upcoming events, or discuss what we think will happen. There aren't many shows as suspenseful as Dexter, and each week there's a cliffhanger.

IMO, it's cheesy to watch shows online, just pay for it for 3 months and cancel when the show ends.

And you used the red face in one of your posts, don't people use that when they're angry about something?

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I don't know if I'm more annoyed at the discussions of upcoming shows or the whole show itself.

And, if you pay the 3 months, I'd be glad to do that.