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*******DEXTER: Season 4********

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TMoney2007
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Im pretty sure either Laguerta or Batista end up dead.


God willing... I imagine they could've had an extended story line with Masuka falling in love, but aside form that they couldn't have picked 2 worse characters for this story line. The thought of them having sex makes me shudder.

I actually muted it when angel was doing his "I love maria blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah la guerta..." thing. So cliche and stupid.
Diggity
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I'm the same way. Thank god for DVR so I can skip forward 7 seconds at a time.

Why do the writers think we care about them?

We get it, you guys could be fired at any time if your forbidden love is discovered!

The rest of the episode was incredible though.
MookieBlaylock
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the thanksgiving scene was awesome-

Are you the one my mom told me not to talk to?

was the line of the show
Diggity
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I was pretty fond of "shut up coont!"
TMoney2007
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I liked : "I know who you are... you're a killer!"
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Silence
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"You're slowly killing everyone in this family"

I'll bet it made everyone go "Holy crap, the kid knows!"
StringerBell
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holy sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! what a great episode.

i wonder if the GF is being all psycho with that detective because of her daddy issues? or maybe because she's trying to get close to the investigation.
J. Walter Weatherman
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Great episode overall, I definitely did not see that twist coming at the end.

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I'm the same way. Thank god for DVR so I can skip forward 7 seconds at a time.



Hah! I thought I was the only one. I literally fast forward through any scenes that are just the two of them. It's not possible for me to care any less about that plot line.

HummingbirdSaltalamacchia
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Im pretty sure either Laguerta or Batista end up dead.



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for those that havent read the book that the series is based, Darkly Dreaming Dexter,(even though the series departs greatly from the book) LaGuerta is actually killed by Brian, Dexters brother towards the end. so it is certainly not out of the realm of possibility that they decide to kill her off at some point in the series.




































































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Ag20??
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In relation to the spoiler: and that'd be perfectly fine with me.



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I think that would arouse too much suspicion. Especially since Deb knows who shot her.


I thought she said she didn't know? Just that they knew it wasn't Trinity due to the height bit.
TMoney2007
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Have you watched this weeks episode?
Cyprian
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****Spoilers below in the rest of the post if you hadn't seen it --- also mixed in with my (likely false) interpretations








My take: the episode was very good, probably the best of the season so far, and no doubt what a great way to end it. Many different ways to go with this one now, and plenty of episodes left for new twists and turns. I'm very pleased so far with this season. I got that same "oh snap" feelings from it like I did during some of those great season 1 episodes.

Dexter flipped Trinity's world upside down there for a brief second, when he pinned him down and told him he should have already killed him. Dexter really lost it there, letting his emotions get the best of him. An emotional Dexter has been increasingly coming out of his shell. He isn't just going through the motions of survival as disspassionately as he used to. His emotions are starting to occationally over come him, and put him into danger again.

For example, instead of just pulling off Trinity from choking his son and securing him or knocking him out, he drags him into the kitchen, shuts the door (not locked) with the family watching from the outside, gets the knife out like it's "play time Dexter" and has a heart to heart where he expresses his true feelings for Trinity in a moment of what seems like uncontrolled rage at another serial killer. I think what set it off is that we have seen another emotional bit from Dexter about how he actually really cares for his family, which we saw earlier this season. He sees what Trinity is doing to his own family, and Dexter cannot stand the thought so he lost it right there.

Another new dynamic is also Trinity's family. Between the daughter coming onto Trinity, the son smashing the ashes, etc, they are clearly not normal. While they are living in what looks like a silent world of hell under Trinty's thumb, they did rush to his rescue there in the kitchen. They also appear innocent (at least so far, I'm not convinced the whole family isn't guilty to at least some small degree, especially after seeing the reporter bit at the end -- I can't help but think they - esp. the son and Trinity - have been playing with Dexter to some degree), and they saw Dexter in attack mode with a big knife with Trinity pinned down. So, the innocent part, if true, makes them hard to dispose of with the code and all.

So, Dexter needs a new angle and probably can't get rid of Trinity in his traditional "cut 'em up and dump 'em" way. If Trinity does ever "vanish off into the sea" I wonder what would keep the family from pointing to Dexter, the man who pinned him down and was holding a knife? Dexter probably will not want that type of focused attention. At the very least, the innocent part as Dexter sees them all will change up the way he deals with Trinity, at least until he might come to know otherwise. Something like the "suicide" of the ice truck killer comes to mind. He'll try and still kill him no doubt, but he'll have to make it look like something else actually happened.

Anyhow, I suppose that with Trinity coming to the reporter there, and with that relationship announced now at the end, that obviously some kind of new plan will be concocted what with the spin of character Dexter showed Trinity now. The reporters fascination with Deb might make things more complex as well. I could definately see a plan bringing Deb into mix here soon, as a way to get to Dexter. They've gone this route before with the ice trucker killer though, so I'm not sure how far they'll push that angle, but something at least along those same lines is there for the taking.

Anyhow, Trinity is free for the moment from Dexter's knife (thanks to the family he terrorizes). But, it isn't clear how much of Dexter's background is unknown to Trinity. For as smart as Trinity is, and as successful as he is, I can't help but think he's been suspicious of Dexter for some time now, always showing up, etc. The reporter supposedly shooting Lundy and Deb makes some more sense now. Lundy was on to her dad earlier this season, so she takes Lundy out -- Deb was there, so she had to be shot as an aside to the whole thing, so there is more there than just a head line story now, there's family. I could see one of the reasons Trinity has been so successful for all these years, if he has a daughter out there who he's trained to help protect him. Now, Dexter was very close to taking out Trinity, so we have a new potential target for the reporter.

Lastly, I can now easily see the reporter coming after Dexter. Last time there was some trouble of someone coming after Trinity who was getting close, supposing the reporter shot Lundy and Deb in some type of protection / news story angle for motivation, it would then make sense for the reporter to come after Dexter now as he's the new threat to Dad. That would explain why Trinity shows up at her place there at the end. The way Trinity values family so much, between a rough past and how he controls his current one, I suppose the reporter was also taught these values. Trinity has also spoken before about how they help him survive at one point to Dexter re-inforces that point as well -- maybe true in more ways than Dexter realized back then.

Deb in turn should be coming after the reporter now, to verify the how the hell do you know. So, you've got an interesting chained loop of different people potentially coming after each other. Deb coming after the reporter, the reporter & Trinity coming after Dexter, Dexter coming after Trinity, and once the chain breaks, it'll be interesting to see where the pieces all fall.
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So Trinity kills 4 instead of 3 right? One for each member of his family.



No. He kills 3. One for his sister, one for his mother, and one for his father.

His current fam isnt' part of the equation.

In regards to what's happening next, is it possible that instead of killing Trinity, he gives Deb the evidence and gets him arrested and Deb her redemption?
TMoney2007
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Did you watch this week's episode? In the previews for next week's episode they indicate that his cycle is 4 killings, 3 in the open 1 hidden and they hadn't ever found it before.
Christian Pulisic FanBoy
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Ahh.... Sorry, the previews for next week don't appear in the manner I watch it.

DFWTLR
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I don't think he'll give Trinity over to Deb, he's put too much effort into Trinity.

I think he'll go after the reporter though, maybe do a dual family killing for the finale.
Ag20??
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Have you watched this weeks episode?


Was this in response to me? If so then yes I did, and when she was at her desk she was talking to...someone, and she said, paraphrasing, 'we know that trinity wasn't the shooter (due to the height bit) but we still don't know who'. I think it was in relation to Dexter coming back from his convention or something.


If not, then carry on, nothing to see here.
nai06
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I think it has to do with the reporter mentioning how it must be tough to look into someone eyes when they die.

She asked quinn if he told the reporter chick anything about the case and he said no.

Then it was like she ahd an Ah-ha moment
TMoney2007
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Yeah, I was referring to your post, and it was about the whole "look into your lover's eyes as he took his last breath thing"... Deb calls her partner and asks him if he told the reporter anything about the crimescene etc etc because the reporter knew things about the crime scene that she shouldn't have.

Being that its tuesday, I'm just going to say it. If you've followed this thread this far, its already been ruined for you.

It seems like they set it up with the reporter being Lundy's killer (which some people in here called) and the reporter is trinity's daughter.

Deb is onto her and from the previews it seems like she goes to her father (trinity) for help when it starts heating up.

Also, it appears that there is a 4th killing in the cycle, which makes Arthur the Quadrinity killer...? haha
phildickinson1
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Great episode - Didn't get around to watching it until last night, but called the reporter shooting for the story - but not the daughter part.

[This message has been edited by phildickinson1 (edited 11/25/2009 9:21p).]
MookieBlaylock
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well that was a tough call- it was either the daughter or the son

Christian Pulisic FanBoy
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If your dad was 6'4", would you be that short at 16-17?

I'm thinking adoption.
MookieBlaylock
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no those are his kids- I think he killed his first wife and remarried and was eventually going to kill the son and mom

beanbean
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If your dad was 6'4", would you be that short at 16-17?

I'm thinking adoption.


Well, my dad is 6'1 and I'm 5'7 and quit growing about 15-20 years ago. I got freakin ripped off, took after my mom. And it is my real dad, besides the height difference, I look just like him.
cablinaggie
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Holy crap! Just got around to seeing the last episode.


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Deb is onto her and from the previews it seems like she goes to her father (trinity) for help when it starts heating up.



I kind of think it's the other way around. If someone gets too close to Trinity, he probably goes to her to take that person out. Maybe that's the "fourth" kill that remains hidden? The investigator? And it's not tagged onto Trinity because he doesn't do the actual killing, but it is tied to his three.

I also wonder if Trinity's family knows about the reporter/daughter. As important as "family" is to them, wouldn't she be expected to be at the house for Thanksgiving?

Is she the vacation killer, maybe follows dear old dad around when he goes on his killing sprees, getting jobs with the local papers in order to get it on with a cop close to the investigation?

Awesome episode. It's Dexter episodes like these that make me keep coming back for more.




cablinaggie
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Another thought. I think my inferences above are off-base. Why should he need her, if his crimes are so discreet that there's only been one person in thirty years to even come close?

Dave Robicheaux
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greatest show on television? it fricken seems like it.

great episode
East Dallas Ag
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setting up for the best ending yet, awesome show.
xhippieliberalx
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definitely a great episode. i'm friggin' STOKED for next week! john lithgow is by far the best villain on tv right now. i'm not sure how they'll top it next season, but i'm excited to find out.
Ag20??
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Awesome episode!

"Well this one certainly isn't empty."



Chinese dude (can never remember his name) never got to tell Dexter about Rita though.
Aggie Infantry
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Dexter is going to have a two-for-one / father-daughter killing. Book it.
Dave Robicheaux
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I think Trinity will abduct Dexter's oldest son in the finale.

I also have the feeling that Trinity's son will be the one who ends up killing him. remeber when dexter said he has the ability to end the cycle..."sins of our fathers"

[This message has been edited by CavJock07 (edited 11/30/2009 9:19a).]
nai06
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Dexter is going to have a two-for-one / father-daughter killing. Book it.


I dont know. It just seems like it would draw too much heat for this. The guy has a family who knows Dexter/Kyle. The reporter is well known to several characters. And they know she is related to trinity. For them to disappear would cause a littel too much investigation into the matter.

Also, the preview show that trinity might be on to dexter(not kyle).

And to top it off, he is no a father and has shown some emotion related to that. They have made reference how hard it must be to have your son disappear and not know what happened to him. Dexter even said"what if this had been Cody?"

With that many families missing a son, not knowing what happened, I think trinity gets caught. Or somehow the dead kids are "discovered" in a happy homes foundation
nai06
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oh and lithgow is an amazingly creepy bad guy
Catch
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Man, I don't know what to think about what's gonna happen next, all I know is I expect to be stressed out.
nai06
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The son taking out trinity would be a good twist.

 
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