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I feel like Vander is a notorious poster from GB past, but I forget the details. Or am I thinking of someone else?

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I rarely post on the GB to be honest. I posted some dumb things in the past when I was an idiot college kid so it might be me you're thinking of, I don't know. Either way it more than a decade ago.

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Vander seems to know an awful lot about something he has no experience in. Which I guess is pretty normal for Vander.

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Sure I have no experience with open relationships, but people are people no matter how much they like to believe they are a special snowflake. That is to say that human nature doesn't really change whether you are in an open relationship or not.

So I'll jump in to this... What about couples who enjoy being watched? I have a colleague that I used to travel with and one night in Chicago as a group after drinking we walk by a place apparently you visit to do that kind of stuff. Guess it was a swingers bar. So he brings it up, which of course creates the extensive conversation. He swore by the fact they never did the swinging thing, just enjoyed being watched.

It seemed very similar to eyes wide shut but with your mate at the end of the day.

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Cuckolding is actually a completely different fetish. Which is cool, if that's what you're into.

The problem with the term "open marriage" is it is a blanket term applied to many different scenarios. Successful open marriages consist of two people who are polyamorous and have no resentment towards the other person having other relationships. Unsuccessful open marriages consist of previously closed marriages that have opened up due to one or both parties being bored, issuing an ultimatum, a final way to try and save the marriage, etc.

Also, different open marriages have different structures. In our marriage, for instance, we both do NSA play with friends/other couples, but we don't have other "boyfriends" or "girlfriends" because we want to save our deepest emotional intimacy just for each other. Other marriages people have both the wife and the "girlfriend" over for Thanksgiving dinner. That wouldn't work for us, and our open marriage wouldn't work for others.

Different strokes for different folks. An open marriage is just as valid as a closed one. The only thing that separates a "good" marriage from a "bad" marriage is whether or not both parties are on the same page with what they want the structure of their marriage to be, and where they want to go going foward. If you're not on the same page you're headed either for divorce or a long, unfulfilling marriage.

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so do you and your wife have sex with other people while being married to each other?
if this is correct, don't you feel jealous/anger when another man has sex with your wife? in this situation, i would

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so do you and your wife have sex with other people while being married to each other?
if this is correct, don't you feel jealous/anger when another man has sex with your wife? in this situation, i would

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I'm not sure where anger would even come into play; as with any relationship you set up rules and boundaries and as long as those boundaries are met there is nothing to get angry over.

As for jealousy, that's why we draw the line at actually having full "boyfriend" or "girlfriend" relationships, as we don't want to share that level of deep emotional intimacy with others. Like I said, this is just how we work. I know that some people don't separate deep emotional intimacy from a sexual relationship. I also know some people who don't mind themselves/their partner having a reduced level of emotional intimacy with others, so the multiple boyfriends/girlfriends things work for them.

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Sure I have no experience with open relationships, but people are people no matter how much they like to believe they are a special snowflake. That is to say that human nature doesn't really change whether you are in an open relationship or not.

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I don't believe I am a special snowflake, but I also don't believe that all humans have the same interests. I'm not trying to convert anybody here. I don't look down on closed relationships the way you look down on open relationships. As I said before, do what works for you and your spouse. Just trying to correct misinformation. The idea that all open marriages (open marriages done the right way for the right reasons, as I mentioned earlier) consist of a guy at home while his wife gets rode by the entire neighborhood is simply not true. Like I said above if jealousy is an issue for you where you are going to be keeping track of such things you shouldn't be in an open marriage in the first place.

vander has repeatedly posted about being a steroid junkie from el paso. you do the math on why a body builder would be so interested in talking about laughing in the faces of the cuckolded men.

zero chance the first girl or guy who saw him naked made fun of his genital size.

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Open marriages are just one form of the vast perversion of marriage as God intends for it to be. It is an absolute fallacy and a joke. In fact, it is not a marriage at all. It is a continuous cycle of adultery that in no way leads to a genuinely fulfilling marriage.

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While not practiced commonly in the religious West, Christian polygamy is pretty well supported Biblically. It's common in most of the Christian world.

Not that this thread is about that type of relationship, and I'm not advocating either way, but a Christian probably shouldn't outright decry plural marriage across the board.

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So because stoning sinners was okay thousands of years ago (in the Bible) it is okay now? Just because God-fearing people had multiple marriage partners does not mean it was ever okay according to God. It just means they were lost, as was generally everyone before Jesus came to save them and us. I'm not here to try and convince you of anything, just stating the facts. Never does Christ imply or say it was okay to ever participate in polygamy, even if it was the norm. Of course it is recorded in the Bible, and was practiced in many places. However, it does not mean it was or is okay according to Christ, and thereby Christ's followers (Christians).

Did Jesus ever say that polygamy was not ok?

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vander has repeatedly posted about being a steroid junkie from el paso. you do the math on why a body builder would be so interested in talking about laughing in the faces of the cuckolded men.

zero chance the first girl or guy who saw him naked made fun of his genital size.

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El Paso? I've never lived in El Paso nor have I ever said I was a junkie of any sort.

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Did Jesus ever say that polygamy was not ok?

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No. And the early church allowed polygamy, but not among church leaders.

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reddit.com/r/hotwife nsfw

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not passing judgement by any means. Just curious how you and the mrs.. got into this? Seems like it would potentially be an odd initial conversation.

It wasn't really odd at all. We've always had an open line of communication in our relationship from when we very first started dating. We knew many people and several couples at A&M who had open relationships or otherwise engaged in play outside of their primary partner so it was a topic we had already discussed before we even got engaged. As our marriage has gone on we have continued to communicate to make sure that we are on the same page.

Like with any marriage (or any relationship, really), having open line of communication is important. It's when people have needs/wants that they are afraid to talk with their spouse about that cause real problems to start brewing.

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It wasn't really odd at all. We've always had an open line of communication in our relationship from when we very first started dating. We knew many people and several couples at A&M who had open relationships or otherwise engaged in play outside of their primary partner so it was a topic we had already discussed before we even got engaged. As our marriage has gone on we have continued to communicate to make sure that we are on the same page.

Like with any marriage (or any relationship, really), having open line of communication is important. It's when people have needs/wants that they are afraid to talk with their spouse about that cause real problems to start brewing.

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Have fun burning in hell.

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It wasn't really odd at all. We've always had an open line of communication in our relationship from when we very first started dating. We knew many people and several couples at A&M who had open relationships or otherwise engaged in play outside of their primary partner so it was a topic we had already discussed before we even got engaged. As our marriage has gone on we have continued to communicate to make sure that we are on the same page.

Like with any marriage (or any relationship, really), having open line of communication is important. It's when people have needs/wants that they are afraid to talk with their spouse about that cause real problems to start brewing.

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Have fun burning in hell.

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On the bright side, he'll have plenty of other sinners around to bump extramarital uglies with.

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It wasn't really odd at all. We've always had an open line of communication in our relationship from when we very first started dating. We knew many people and several couples at A&M who had open relationships or otherwise engaged in play outside of their primary partner so it was a topic we had already discussed before we even got engaged. As our marriage has gone on we have continued to communicate to make sure that we are on the same page.

Like with any marriage (or any relationship, really), having open line of communication is important. It's when people have needs/wants that they are afraid to talk with their spouse about that cause real problems to start brewing.

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So what are some typical boundaries in an open relationship? One partner per month? In the butt not ok?

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That's the thing, I'm not sure there is such a thing as "typical". Some open relationships they just have one other person who they've been friends with for a very long time. Some people meet many others at events and have multiple partners in a month. Like I was saying earlier, "open relationship" is a pretty big category.

As for "in the butt" for people who have certain sexual acts as boundaries I've personally come across more people where the vagina is off-limits than the butt is off-limits. There are also people where any kind of penetration at all is off limits (common among couples where one partner wants their partner to be able to enjoy things like BD/SM play but they don't want to be the one hitting them/being hit).

The only common thread in open relationships is that they are not completely closed. Anything else, there are millions of variations.

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Have fun burning in hell.

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On the bright side, he'll have plenty of other sinners around to bump extramarital uglies with.

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I've actually tried fire play a few times. It isn't my go-to, but I could possibly be talked into doing it for all eternity.

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Have fun burning in hell.

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On the bright side, he'll have plenty of other sinners around to bump extramarital uglies with.

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I've actually tried fire play a few times. It isn't my go-to, but I could possibly be talked into doing it for all eternity.

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50 Shades of Brimstone.

That arrangement had nothing to do with why we split. And I do mean NOTHING.

Find it as hard as you like. We rarely, if ever, exercised the option, and it had nothing to do with the situation. I don't want to go into it here, because y'all wouldn't understand it. He and I are still great friends, and I only date women so...

That and s bunch of vanilla people focusing on cuckold couples, and lecturing people in the lifestyle about their relationships

What happens in open relationships when the chick your screwing on the side gets pregnant or your wife gets pregnant by the other guy?