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I think a white kid would get that reaction for this. I think painting this as a reaction someone had because of brown skin, when the kid himself admits it looked threatening is stupid.

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I think this statement is profoundly wrong.

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I honestly don't think Jacques knows the meaning of the word "intent"

Maybe the kid recognized there was a risk involved, possible. And maybe he also wrongly assumed that no rational person in their right mind would think there was an actual threat. Well I guess he learned his lesson, never underestimate the potent combination of paranoia, bigotry, and ignorance pervasive in Texas

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He said he thought it looked like a threat.

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he identified a low probability risk, took a mitigating action, and proceeded as planned.

If he intended to make it look like a threat he would not have taken the aforementioned mitigating action.

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Where do you get the low probability stuff from? And how does putting s cable on it mitigate it?

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1. Nobody in their right mind would look at it and think it was a bomb. Therefore the probability of somebody not being in their right mind, and consequently thinking it was a bomb, is a low probability risk. He incorrectly assessed that risk, because he's young and did not fully realize the extent to which islamophobia has permeated Texas.

2. Whether you or I perceive his mitigation plan to be valid is irrelevant. He perceived it to be valid, which shows a clear indicator that his intent was to make it clear to people that it was not a bomb, but was a clock he was very proud of. His mitigation plan may have been bad, but that's just bad planning and not malicious intent.

the definition of a "hoax" is a malicious deception.

He demonstrated no malice, and he took steps to do what he thought would make sure people weren't deceived by his device, including telling everybody that it was a clock.

Furthermore, when he showed it to his teacher and it was brought to his attention that he had not properly mitigated the risk he surrendered it for the teacher's protection, instead of then crying foul play or discrimination. He again demonstrated that he was not trying to deceive anybody.

Only after he did all of these things, and the device was no longer in his position, no longer capable of deceiving anybody, did the situation escalate out of his control.

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The boy, in his right mind, thought it looke like a threat. The teacher he liked enough to show it to thought it might be construed that way. That's two of two people that saw it and concluded that. You're asserting something that's counter to the facts. But even if not: why bring something you've identified as potentially being perceived as a threat to school?

It is also not irrelevant that a cable makes it no less threatening. Why it was supposed to is a valid question.

Why it was left on or plugged in later is a valid question.

You're simply assuming there was no intent here to bring something that looked like a bomb. And you're assuming that knowing he knew it looked like a bomb and brought it.

you're doing this to prove some islamophobia point. I don't think it's there.

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I think a white kid would get that reaction for this. I think painting this as a reaction someone had because of brown skin, when the kid himself admits it looked threatening is stupid.

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I think this statement is profoundly wrong.

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Authority figures in school often overreact to things. I have my own story about that. It's kind of hard to deny that there are a lot of idiotic zero tolerance stories and stories of overreaction to basically nothing.

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So people want to convict him of thought crime? That's not america. That's not even mexico.

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What's the thought crime?

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Do you even George Orwell, bro?

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Crimes have the element of intent. That doesn't convert them to thought crimes.

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I think a white kid would get that reaction for this. I think painting this as a reaction someone had because of brown skin, when the kid himself admits it looked threatening is stupid.

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I think this statement is profoundly wrong.

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Authority figures in school often overreact to things. I have my own story about that. It's kind of hard to deny that there are a lot of idiotic zero tolerance stories and stories of overreaction to basically nothing.

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I don't disagree at all with this.

However, I think to ignore the fact that he's muslim is extremely naive, weird or oblivious as it relates to how he was treated.

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I think a white kid would get that reaction for this. I think painting this as a reaction someone had because of brown skin, when the kid himself admits it looked threatening is stupid.

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I think this statement is profoundly wrong.

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Authority figures in school often overreact to things. I have my own story about that. It's kind of hard to deny that there are a lot of idiotic zero tolerance stories and stories of overreaction to basically nothing.

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I don't disagree at all with this.

However, I think to ignore the fact that he's muslim is extremely naive, weird or oblivious as it relates to how he was treated.

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Mm. Maybe it does have something to do with it. Like a Muslim kid wondering what would happen if he brought something he thought looked like a threat to school the week of the anniversary of 911.

Anyway, he admitted he looked at it and thought it was a threat.

So despite what counterfactuals 30days wants to assert here, we should be at least acknowledging he did that. Then left it on or plugged it in later.

These are things I fully believe would get a white kid in trouble.

Seemingly immune to Jacque's airtight, unassailable logic, Google and MIT and just about every other tech company or institution of higher learning is tripping over themselves extending invites to the kid.

I'd wager thats because people like Jacques are ****ing moron oxygen thieves and they are being mocked on a national scale.

Please, keep posting.

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Seemingly immune to Jacque's airtight, unassailable logic, Google and MIT and just about every other tech company or institution of higher learning is tripping over themselves extending invites to the kid.

I'd wager thats because people like Jacques are ****ing moron oxygen thieves and they are being mocked on a national scale.

Please, keep posting.

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Google: where a digital clock is a cool idea.

Maybe someone will do something meaningful like give him a scholarship. Maybe even pre admit the little genius.

Or maybe they're tripping over themselves to jump on a bandwagon.

Hey my school invited him! Where is A&M?

No way reb majored in engineering. Obviously of low IQ.

Is there a peaceful Islamic nation? Does the answer to that question rationalize "Islamophobia"?

What is a "peaceful nation?" In the last 50 years America has started or escalated more wars than any other on the planet. Are we a "peaceful nation?"

Tomorrow is punch a Gomer Pyle looking dolt the throat day. Poor reb.

well, you are leaving out the jews. But even as far as the others, they know how to make the bomb, they just lack an important ingredient.

Good question, 30 Days. By "peaceful nation", I'm asking if there is a Muslim nation that is not characterized by ongoing internal oppression, discrimination, and brutality. Maybe Qatar?

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Pretty sure my idiot middle school teachers would have taken this seriously. That looks nothing like a clock and they value their retirement more than me. Dumb on the kid's part, too.

So if it was potentially a bomb why didn't they move the kids out or call the bomb squad?

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Pretty sure my idiot middle school teachers would have taken this seriously. That looks nothing like a clock and they value their retirement more than me. Dumb on the kid's part, too.

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guessing you didn't read anything else in the thread. How big do you think that "bomb" is, based on that picture?

Was this posted on the Politics board?

Ok, I want to know what his friends think of him. Does he have friends?

wait. so it was a countdown clock? Was it actually counting down when he opened it for the teacher?

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Was this posted on the Politics board?

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lol "briefcase"

also, the "countdown clock" they posted in that picture is several times the size of what this kid made

but conservitards gonna conservitard

So it was a countdown clock mounted to the side of a briefcase. Brought by a Muslim. Can't imagine why anybody might be cautious with that.

ha, the bomb clock maker transferred to another school

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So it was a countdown clock mounted to the side of a briefcase. Brought by a Muslim. Can't imagine why anybody might be cautious with that.

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1. nowhere other than that graphic has referred to it as a countdown clock.
2. a pencil case is still not a briefcase, no matter how many times you call it one
3. The very fact that you think him being a Muslim makes it more dangerous is bigotry on its face. Tell me, when was the last time a muslim student took weapons or a bomb to school? Much more rational to be afraid of the pasty faced white kid who's making things that look like bombs

Love how they "lawyered up". Just like they do another peaceful Islamic nations.

Well, at least they're lawyering up and not "pencil box clocking up". Amirite?

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Love how they "lawyered up". Just like they do another peaceful Islamic nations.

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if your CHILD was detained and interrogated, are you saying you would just let it slide?

what a load of horse****

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Tell me, when was the last time a muslim student took weapons or a bomb to school?

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This week in Iraq. Oh and there was the man with the gun in the church in East Texas. Religion of peace, right?

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Love how they "lawyered up".

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A minor child was interrogated by the police for 1 1/2 hours without his parents being present, despite his asking for them at least twice. This was, in fact, a violation of the child's rights. Furthermore, his parents should have been promptly informed that he had been arrested. They were not.

If it were my child, I'd be hiring council, too. Even if my child had done something stupid.

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This really was the worst part of all of this.

I don't fault the school and police for investigating the clock-that-looked-like-a-scary-bomb. I do fault them for HOW they managed the investigation and how the treated the minor while they investigated.

No one ever thought it was a real bomb. From the beginning the teacher thought it was a fake bomb meant to be used to scare other classmates and teachers. Their investigation was trying figure out what his intent was with the device.

This kid has cost America billions of dollars with people and media discussing it still.

Maybe that was his plan all along as a terrorist?

He's the equivalent of march madness.