Thanks. I am serious!

I did. But not many. I was the smart one. My brother would do stupid stuff and get spanked all the time. I'd learn from his lessons.

Lack of spankings is why the country is going down the ****ter

I got spanked, and most of the time it was deserved. Once, I got one when my older brother crushed my mom's hat on the train, and blamed me....

One thing I liked about spanking over any other punishment...it was swift justice, over fast, and then I was back in good graces immediately after. No sulking for hours in my room, grounding, or timeouts playing mind games

Saw this mom at Chuck E Cheeses, JUST TODAY, put the smackdown on her 2 yr old little girl. The mom was somewhat petite, so the child was relatively tiny too. But, literally, the mom chases her little girl around air hockey, under the cycling-helicopter, and over Bob the Builder's ride, tackling her, putting her in a leg lock, sitting indian style and yells, "You're in time-out young lady!!" I have to say, I was embarrased for both of them.

I don't know what that little girl did to deserve the "time-out", but this technique did not change her behavior. After about 60 to 90 seconds of the indian-style leg lock, the mom got up, dragging her child to the restroom. I'm assuming to handle it in a more proper way: A pants-down swat.

my parents put cigarettes out on me

So was the mom hot?
What kind of beer was on draft?
How many tokens did you get with the 2 large pizza special?

im one of the only ones that got spanked as a kid in the group of friends i grew up with. i am one of the only ones that didnt become a drug addict or pill popper.

Okay, I don't want to debate this. I really don't. But my husband and I have had this conversation numerous times. My question is: What is the goal of spanking? Physical pain, hurt feelings, showing the kid who's bigger/stronger (thus in control) or something else. Right now, we use time out but we don't call it that. And it is working fairly well for us. My two year old HATES to be away from the action so this really speaks to her. I'm just trying to think of when I would hit her and I'm drawing a blank.

I was spanked by:

mom: would cry cuz it was funny. then would cry again cuz she said she was telling dad.
dad: would cry cuz it hurt like a beotch
coach: would take swats instead of running
principal: for playing hockey during study hall

orange extension cord

I would smack my kids for talking back.

i was! we had a paddle & every time we got spanked we had to write our name on it...i had 2 older brothers & my name is on there the most.

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missy94, spankings do not hurt the kid. it shows them strength and that you're not messing around. my dad probably only had to spank each of us 5 kids once or twice, but we all knew who the discplinarian was.

time out is a joke. kids at that age do not have the power to reason or understand why they are sitting out. but you can bet your pants they'll understand a smack to the bottom.

i wouldve loved time out when i was little!!

that sh*t wouldve been much better than getting hit w/a shoe or a paddle!!!

if my parents did time out, i would probably be in jail right now.

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missy94, spankings do not hurt the kid.

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Okay, how many people on this thread said that it hurt when they got spanked?

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time out is a joke. kids at that age do not have the power to reason or understand why they are sitting out. but you can bet your pants they'll understand a smack to the bottom.

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Ask my two year old what happens if she throws her toys. She'll tell you that she has to go sit by herself. And I have seen her several times this week pick up a toy, start to throw it, stop, look at me and say "don't throw me's toys." So I think she gets it.

And your reasoning makes no sense. If she can't understand why she is sitting out, how can she understand why I am hitting her?

No offense, but you don't seem to know much about child development if you think a two year old doesn't understand consequences.

i got a gym sock full of nickles

No Wow just wow, Im full white. I grew up in the country so that might tell you something. The bad whippings were when I was in high school. Those three I told you about were the only ones I got in High School. They happened my freshman and sophomore year. I deserved all but one of them. Im luckey because I have some friends who had it way worse than I did. My Dad never ever punched me or anything like that. The worst I ever got was a sore butt for a few hours, but thats it. Just a good ole whipping on the ass. I thought somebody on here would laugh about those stories. I think they are hilarious. Instead some of yall cant beleive it happened. Maybe its just the way some people are raised.

whats funny about your father breaking a 2 by 4 on your body?

He didnt mean to do that. I think the board might of been a little rotten. He apologized later for it.

missy, I don't think it is a question of sometimes the kid doesn't connect time out to what they did wrong, but rather that time out doesn't do anything to discourage some kids. Spanking hurts, but not for long and not badly... but for many kids, it is infintely worse than time out. If time out works on your kid, then great! You'll never have to spank her.

I probably could have done with more spankings because there were times that I would figure out that my punishment would be timeout or a lecture, so I went ahead and did whatever I wanted anyway. Granted I didn't plan on getting caught, and usually didn't, but still.

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The way I see it is that kids that need it should get a good a** whipping. For some, corporal punishment is the best way. Some kids dont need it though, and that is great. I was a hardheaded teenager that learned everything the hard way. I was given warnings, but I was stupid and didnt listen. I got what I deserved and I learned from it. One good thing about being punished at home was that I never ever got in trouble out in public or with the law. My parents taught me to stay out of trouble, and to this day I have. The problem with those people that think that corporal punishment should never be used, is that I have seen so many kids walk all over their parents. People I went to school with who never got whipped or corporally punished when they were kids, a lot of them are in jail, or have gotten in trouble out in public because their parents let them get away with everything. Their parents were soft on them and they never worried about getting in trouble. When they got out in the real world that really hurt them.

I got spanked a few times. Mom was more of a thrower, because I would take off running. I ended up having to dodge the flip flops. The worst was when company was over and mom would just pinch the **** out of my arm for doing something bad.

I can count the number of times I was spanked on one hand.

I think its a savage form of punishment; I'm not ever going to do it as a parent. Well, with the possible exception of my kid running into the street without looking; in a case like that I may do it, just so they can associate a negative stimulus with a careless act that puts their life in danger. But for simple acts of disobedience, I'll stick to time out.

definitely was

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missy, I don't think it is a question of sometimes the kid doesn't connect time out to what they did wrong, but rather that time out doesn't do anything to discourage some kids.

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Good point, aero. But that's not what Sea Bass said.

I just think it is short-sighted to say that time out is useless and kids "should" be spanked. Different kids respond to different kids of discipline. I just can't wrap my head around hitting my kid but she is young and fairly well-behaved. I think most parents spank out of anger and I don't think that's healthy for the kid or the parent IMO.

The only time I can imagine spanking my kid is if she physically endangered herself or others. But that would have to be at an older age when her understanding of physical danger is a little more developed.

I dunno about spankings, but I got my ass whooped a number of times. Although, when I look back, I did some real stupid **** in my younger days.

Worst whipping I ever got was when Dad took off my own belt & let me have it. What made it really bad is it was one of those late 70's/early 80's Urban Cowboy models with my name on the back and some fake silver conchos. Behavior was corrected in a hurry!

The worst corporal punishment was dished out by my coaches. There was no escaping pain in those thin polyester John Stockton nut huggin' model shorts of the mid 80's. The coaches all had various models of 2x4's taped with holes. I swear it was like Dazed & Confused.

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It's simple science that the only way to *increase* a behavior is through reinforcement. If you want to instill a positive behavior, you HAVE to use reinforcement. Using punishment can not, ever, make something "better", like sharing or taking turns or patience. I think a lot of people don't know how the science of behavior works so they make assumptions about punishment that simply aren't true. Like that it is effective.

It's interesting that nobody would consider beating their kid to teach them math, science, or reading. But for some reason teaching behavior has a whole different set of rules. I for one believe that children are naturally social and can learn behavior just like they do any other skill - with practice and reinforcement. I would never hit a kid for getting a math problem wrong, so why should I do it if they misbehave? To make myself feel better? Take out my frustration? "Teach them a lesson"? None of these are valid to me. Instead, I continue teaching them how TO behave and, as is also true to science, (bad) behavior that is not reinforced disappears, and (good) behavior that is, sticks around.

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It's called negative reinforcement. Perhaps you should actually learn a little bit about behavior before you start lecturing others on it.

Applied dog behavior?

Don't confuse what you know about dogs with what works in humans.

Also, where have you been teaching this stuff?

I posted this on DanTheMan's thread which appears to have been deleted, so here goes:

Spanking did nothing to effectively curb my bad behavior. I was beaten by hand, with flyswatters, with belts, with whatever. All it did was make me think harder on how to outwit my parents so I didn't get caught. It turned me out not as more obedient, but more cunning, manipulative, and deceptive than I would have been. It teaches you to not get caught.

IMHO the people who preach the "I got beat and deserved every bit of it and now look who I turned out" gospel are a symptom of "good ol boy" childrearing of the 19th century and will swear up and down that their cuts and bruises helped "make them the man they are today!!". It's pretty sick and pathetic, if you ask me. Your time has passed you by.

But some of you freaks will still beat your kids. At least these idiots are starting to die off and soon constructive methods of behavior modification will become dominant. Don't forget to velcro your shoes, grandpa.

nevermind, I don't want to debate today.

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