I smell a lawsuit.

lead said:

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I smell a lawsuit.

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Vaccine requirements at colleges aren't new.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/blog/list-of-colleges-that-require-covid-19-vaccine/

Texas schools and an sec school

amercer said:

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lead said:

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I smell a lawsuit.

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Vaccine requirements at colleges aren't new.

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Are there examples of schools requiring a vaccine approved for emergency use? Especially when almost no students fit the criteria for the emergency use?

Ryota Hayami said:

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32058187/oregon-ducks-require-vaccination-proof-negative-covid-19-test-attend-college-football-games

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This is happening all over for large gatherings. Many concerts are requiring it.

It's ridiculous we are refusing to accept natural immunity.

Well on Monday it's getting full approval

amercer said:

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Well on Monday it's getting full approval

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I had eggs for breakfast

amercer said:

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lead said:

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I smell a lawsuit.

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Vaccine requirements at colleges aren't new.

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And pretty universally those vaccines which are mandated are for diseases which have mortality rates into the double-digits. Not something which for 99.5% of the people who get it experience little more than a cold.

Don't worry, MRNA vaccine expected to receive FDA approval on Monday. What will your next objection be?

That's still not an argument

You're right, it's a question you did not answer.

TarponChaser said:

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amercer said:

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lead said:

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I smell a lawsuit.

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Vaccine requirements at colleges aren't new.

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And pretty universally those vaccines which are mandated are for diseases which have mortality rates into the double-digits. Not something which for 99.5% of the people who get it experience little more than a cold.

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Share the facts on the diseases you are talking about. Percentage of death. Percentage of hospitalization. Number of deaths. Number of hospitalization. Then compare all of that to covid. Prove your argument that you are making with such authority.

Also include sources of all data

Then share what you think the threshold should be at for each category.

bay fan said:

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You're right, it's a question you did not answer.

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It's irrelevant to the thread. It's ridiculous to require vaccination for vaccine that's not fully approved. It's even more ridiculous to require it for a demographic that overwhelmingly isn't facing enough risk to justify an emergency use vaccine. They should have waited.

GAC06 said:

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bay fan said:

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You're right, it's a question you did not answer.

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It's irrelevant to the thread. It's ridiculous to require vaccination for vaccine that's not fully approved. It's even more ridiculous to require it for a demographic that overwhelmingly isn't facing enough risk to justify an emergency use vaccine. They should have waited.

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Well, it will be FDA approved and no longer "emergency use" next week, probably Monday.

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We'll see. But they already kicked students out for waiting to get an EUA vaccine for a virus that isn't a threat to their demographic.

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It's going to be approved. It's pretty much been confirmed.

Breaking NYT: The FDA is aiming to give full approval to Pfizer's COVID vaccine on Monday.https://t.co/048zLrhak3

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 20, 2021

The FDA is expected to grant full approval to the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine early next week, sources told Axios.

It would be the first COVID-19 shot to receive full authorization from the federal government.https://t.co/LDMfyc192S

— Axios (@axios) August 20, 2021

The FDA is expected to grant full approval of Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine next week. The two-dose shot was first cleared in December by the agency on an emergency use basis. https://t.co/7H5ERV07Vx

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) August 21, 2021

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We'll see. It's not approved. The students were kicked out anyway.

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You are correct. We will see it be approved.

Ryota Hayami said:

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TarponChaser said:

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amercer said:

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lead said:

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I smell a lawsuit.

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Vaccine requirements at colleges aren't new.

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And pretty universally those vaccines which are mandated are for diseases which have mortality rates into the double-digits. Not something which for 99.5% of the people who get it experience little more than a cold.

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Share the facts on the diseases you are talking about. Percentage of death. Percentage of hospitalization. Number of deaths. Number of hospitalization. Then compare all of that to covid. Prove your argument that you are making with such authority.

Also include sources of all data

Then share what you think the threshold should be at for each category.

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Seriously?

Polio: 10-30% mortality rate and 50/50 of severe handicap if you live. Smallpox: 30-100% mortality rate. Measles: 2-5% (higher in infants or elderly), like 30% chance of total hearing loss. Bacterial meningitis: 20%+ in adults. Just to name a few. These have all been posted repeatedly and thoroughly documented.

Covid is like 0.05%.

Attempting to compare mandatory covid vaccination to any of the above marks you as fundamentally unserious and unworthy of engagement on the matter.

TarponChaser said:

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Ryota Hayami said:

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TarponChaser said:

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amercer said:

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lead said:

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I smell a lawsuit.

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Vaccine requirements at colleges aren't new.

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And pretty universally those vaccines which are mandated are for diseases which have mortality rates into the double-digits. Not something which for 99.5% of the people who get it experience little more than a cold.

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Share the facts on the diseases you are talking about. Percentage of death. Percentage of hospitalization. Number of deaths. Number of hospitalization. Then compare all of that to covid. Prove your argument that you are making with such authority.

Also include sources of all data

Then share what you think the threshold should be at for each category.

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Seriously?

Polio: 10-30% mortality rate and 50/50 of severe handicap if you live. Smallpox: 30-100% mortality rate. Measles: 2-5% (higher in infants or elderly), like 30% chance of total hearing loss. Bacterial meningitis: 20%+ in adults. Just to name a few. These have all been posted repeatedly and thoroughly documented.

Covid is like 0.05%.

Attempting to compare mandatory covid vaccination to any of the above marks you as fundamentally unserious and unworthy of engagement on the matter.

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Then don't engage with a message board on the topic if you don't want to argue with the other side. K. Bye.

645,000 people have died in the US from covid. That's important to me.

Considering the below are mandated in Texas I think covid is warranted in regards to saving lives.

But hey you are allowed to disagree!

Diphtheria has a 10% mortality rate

If you don't see a world of difference between that at 0.05% I can't help you.

And all of the other vaccines were studied and developed and tested over years. Not months. They've also been in use for years before becoming mandated.

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We'll see. It's not approved. The students were kicked out anyway.

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It should not surprise you that Hayami doesn't understand your argument.

Pretty simple. Students were unenrolled before it has been approved. Not sure why the distinction is hard for people.

You're not arguing with a rational person, you're arguing with either fear or blind faith. On the fear side, it's understandable...we've been inundated with fear for over a year. If it's just blind faith, you're not gonna win that one either..,try convincing a Christian that Jesus isn't the son of God.

Either way, you're wasting your energy.