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That's alright, don't think anyone owns those technicalities. Nice, sounds good!

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Last year in the U.S. broadly and Texas more specifically, some schools were mask-optional. Other schools forced or coerced children to wear them for hours each day, every day, often even outside during exercise.

Forced-mask schools had higher infection rates than mask-optional. pic.twitter.com/OfPKvOcpDz

— Will Franklin (@WILLisms) August 16, 2021

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Unless kids are wearing an N-95 they aren't protecting their diabetic mom, obese uncle, or grandmother who has a weakened immune system and they for sure arent protecting other children that have only a. 001% chance from getting suck. Even if wearing an n-95 it has to be completely sealed because the virus is aresol transmitted and not droplet. That is saying that a child will leave their mask on for 7 hours and not touch their mask/face. Surgical masks were made for higher particle bacteria than viruses from entering an open wound and cloth mask keep dust out of your nasals. N-95 would need to be changed out atleast once a day for a room full of people. Its evident the aersol transmitting virus will fill up a classroom quickly

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Unless kids are wearing an N-95 they aren't protecting their diabetic mom, obese uncle, or grandmother who has a weakened immune system and they for sure arent protecting other children that have only a. 001% chance from getting suck. Even if wearing an n-95 it has to be completely sealed because the virus is aresol transmitted and not droplet. That is saying that a child will leave their mask on for 7 hours and not touch their mask/face. Surgical masks were made for higher particle bacteria than viruses from entering an open wound and cloth mask keep dust out of your nasals. N-95 would need to be changed out atleast once a day for a room full of people. Its evident the aersol transmitting virus will fill up a classroom quickly

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Yep. Which is why stories like this are popping up all over as the school year begins:

https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/nearly-5600-hillsborough-co-students-in-quarantine-emergency-school-board-meeting-called-for-wednesday/

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Fenrir said:

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Contact tracing. ISD near me last year had an almost 10 to 1 ratio of non positive, contact traced in quarantine to positive confirmed in quarantine.

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A Canadian study today in JAMA Pediatrics suggests that while younger children are less likely than older children to be the index COVID-19 patient in their home, they are more likely to spread it to household members.
Led by researchers from Public Health Ontario in Toronto, the study involved 6,280 households with COVID-19 index patients 17 years and younger from Jun 1 to Dec 31, 2020.

Of the 6,280 households, 1,717 (27.3%) experienced SARS-CoV-2 transmission to a median of two siblings or caregivers in the household 1 to 14 days after index patient diagnosis. Children aged 0 to 8 had higher odds of transmitting the virus, but those 3 years and younger had the greatest infectivity (odds ratio [OR], 1.43 vs those 14 to 17 years).

Similar odds were seen when restricting secondary cases to those occurring 2 to 14 days or 4 to 14 days after diagnosis of the index patient, regardless of symptoms or link to a school or childcare outbreak or reopening.

Consistent with increasing degrees of autonomy, proportions of index patients in each age-group rose with age, with 12% of those 0 to 3 years, 20% of those 4 to 8, 30% of those 9 to 13, and 38% of those 14 to 17. Mean COVID-19 index patient age was 10.7 years, and 45.6% were girls.

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The findings, the authors said, suggest that household members, schools, and childcare facilities need to consider the differential infectivity of pediatric age-groups.

"Although children do not appear to transmit infection as frequently as adults, caregivers should be aware of the risk of transmission while caring for sick children in the household setting," the researchers wrote. "As it is challenging and often impossible to socially isolate from sick children, caregivers should apply other infection control measures where feasible, such as use of masks, increased hand washing, and separation from siblings."

In an editorial in the same journal, Susan Coffin, MD, MPH, and David Rubin, MD, MSCE, both of the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, said that sick infants and toddlers may be more likely to spread SARS-CoV-2 to household members than older children because they require close contact with their caregivers.

Because physical distancing and continual masking is unlikely in such settings, Coffin and Rubin recommended vaccination of eligible household members. "The obvious solution to protect a household with a sick young infant or toddler is to make sure that all eligible members of the household are vaccinated," they said.

"Cloaked with the protection of vaccine, household members need not fear the youngest family members with a runny nose come fall; the solutionvaccinationis now within their grasp."

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KidDoc said:

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Their conclusion is valid. If you have kids I would tell you to expect to get COVID in the next 12 months and vaccinate accordingly especially household contacts with risk factors.

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KidDoc said:

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Their conclusion is valid. If you have kids I would tell you to expect to get COVID in the next 12 months and vaccinate accordingly especially household contacts with risk factors.

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KidDoc said:

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Their conclusion is valid. If you have kids I would tell you to expect to get COVID in the next 12 months and vaccinate accordingly especially household contacts with risk factors.

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I got COVID last July. Coworker got it from
Her kid who was in daycare and was who we can best guess gave it to me.

I have 3 kids in school, a toddler at home and baby otw in September.
Wife got vaccinated in April early in pregnancy.

Been considering getting vaccinated, no major risk factors, but just as an in case due to baby. Haven't yet as really don't see point being that i had COVID once already...but the new baby changes that calculation a bit... however, if it just as transmissible w/vax and kids are all under 7, (and we wouldn't vax them formit anyways as no risk factors for them) Im not
Sure what diff my vax status would make. Any thoughts?

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TarponChaser said:

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What's the difference between the T-cell test and the antibody test?

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mhoff555AG said:

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Suppose I mean regarding Texas more specifically rather than nationally. Different regions will have surges at differing times just like with previous waves. Looking at data from TMC, when cases per day and hospitalizations are increasing it means surge is still ongoing and hasn't peaked yet. Once new cases per day has peaked and down trending, hospitalizations will as well in a week or so.

Hard to have this philosophy being in healthcare but can see your perspective and glad you got vaccinated. Can't comment about pediatric patients as confidently since not in this field but does look like the risk of serious infection is very very low. Likely overblown by media because most stuff regarding children & illness are bigger headlines.

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