I just called called for 10 new covid pt consults at once. Never in my career have I seen anything like this....
Marcus Aurelius said:
Hospital and ICUs all full. ER packed 20+ covids. All waiting for beds. Nightmare.
We don't know that they are having to make a live/die call at this point. It sounds like overall, the treatment currently given has reduced the likelihood of death significantly. Obviously, this is very regional and local the way things pop up. One area can be exploding and a close area near there can have no issues at all. Hopefully a vaccine is introduced soon enough to help those most at risk.culdeus said:
It's crazy how the attitudes for this changed so quickly.
Went from people sort of caring, to people literally not giving a single crap.
I don't have any idea what a world looks like with full hospitals and this bearing down, I would hate to think we are denying care and I would hate to think a Dr. has to make a live/die call. What a mess.
This narrative seems a little stretched. Seems like younger people are getting it making it appear the death rate is falling on a broad level. It's hard to gather if let's say 65+ rate of hospital/death is better. Certainly it looked that way for awhile, but what could also be true is that it wasn't enough of an improvement to avoid over-run of hospitals which is by and large what is happening in the mid-size regional hospital districts in Texas.Capitol Ag said:We don't know that they are having to make a live/die call at this point. It sounds like overall, the treatment currently given has reduced the likelihood of death significantly. Obviously, this is very regional and local the way things pop up. One area can be exploding and a close area near there can have no issues at all. Hopefully a vaccine is introduced soon enough to help those most at risk.culdeus said:
It's crazy how the attitudes for this changed so quickly.
Went from people sort of caring, to people literally not giving a single crap.
I don't have any idea what a world looks like with full hospitals and this bearing down, I would hate to think we are denying care and I would hate to think a Dr. has to make a live/die call. What a mess.
Good luck Doc. We are all thinking and praying for you and your staff.
No. Not that I know of. First hand experience from this hospital. 400 beds. 55 ICUs.Duncan Idaho said:Marcus Aurelius said:
Hospital and ICUs all full. ER packed 20+ covids. All waiting for beds. Nightmare.
Is this data for the birmingham area published anywhere?
Marcus Aurelius said:No. Not that I know of. First hand experience from this hospital. 400 beds. 55 ICUs.Duncan Idaho said:Marcus Aurelius said:
Hospital and ICUs all full. ER packed 20+ covids. All waiting for beds. Nightmare.
Is this data for the birmingham area published anywhere?
What attitudes are changing? There's almost nowhere you can go without a mask. People are wearing masks like they are told.culdeus said:This narrative seems a little stretched. Seems like younger people are getting it making it appear the death rate is falling on a broad level. It's hard to gather if let's say 65+ rate of hospital/death is better. Certainly it looked that way for awhile, but what could also be true is that it wasn't enough of an improvement to avoid over-run of hospitals which is by and large what is happening in the mid-size regional hospital districts in Texas.Capitol Ag said:We don't know that they are having to make a live/die call at this point. It sounds like overall, the treatment currently given has reduced the likelihood of death significantly. Obviously, this is very regional and local the way things pop up. One area can be exploding and a close area near there can have no issues at all. Hopefully a vaccine is introduced soon enough to help those most at risk.culdeus said:
It's crazy how the attitudes for this changed so quickly.
Went from people sort of caring, to people literally not giving a single crap.
I don't have any idea what a world looks like with full hospitals and this bearing down, I would hate to think we are denying care and I would hate to think a Dr. has to make a live/die call. What a mess.
Good luck Doc. We are all thinking and praying for you and your staff.
Social gathering attitudes are changing. It's anecdotal but at my kids school club sports are driving cases. In other schools parties on weekends are causing shutdown events, both from parents getting it and spreading to kids and the inverse.AggieAuditor said:What attitudes are changing? There's almost nowhere you can go without a mask. People are wearing masks like they are told.culdeus said:This narrative seems a little stretched. Seems like younger people are getting it making it appear the death rate is falling on a broad level. It's hard to gather if let's say 65+ rate of hospital/death is better. Certainly it looked that way for awhile, but what could also be true is that it wasn't enough of an improvement to avoid over-run of hospitals which is by and large what is happening in the mid-size regional hospital districts in Texas.Capitol Ag said:We don't know that they are having to make a live/die call at this point. It sounds like overall, the treatment currently given has reduced the likelihood of death significantly. Obviously, this is very regional and local the way things pop up. One area can be exploding and a close area near there can have no issues at all. Hopefully a vaccine is introduced soon enough to help those most at risk.culdeus said:
It's crazy how the attitudes for this changed so quickly.
Went from people sort of caring, to people literally not giving a single crap.
I don't have any idea what a world looks like with full hospitals and this bearing down, I would hate to think we are denying care and I would hate to think a Dr. has to make a live/die call. What a mess.
Good luck Doc. We are all thinking and praying for you and your staff.
It's as simple as human nature, honestly. We are not made to be anti-social. We need social interaction, so people will get together. Attitudes are changing because human nature is taking over.culdeus said:Social gathering attitudes are changing. It's anecdotal but at my kids school club sports are driving cases. In other schools parties on weekends are causing shutdown events, both from parents getting it and spreading to kids and the inverse.AggieAuditor said:What attitudes are changing? There's almost nowhere you can go without a mask. People are wearing masks like they are told.culdeus said:This narrative seems a little stretched. Seems like younger people are getting it making it appear the death rate is falling on a broad level. It's hard to gather if let's say 65+ rate of hospital/death is better. Certainly it looked that way for awhile, but what could also be true is that it wasn't enough of an improvement to avoid over-run of hospitals which is by and large what is happening in the mid-size regional hospital districts in Texas.Capitol Ag said:We don't know that they are having to make a live/die call at this point. It sounds like overall, the treatment currently given has reduced the likelihood of death significantly. Obviously, this is very regional and local the way things pop up. One area can be exploding and a close area near there can have no issues at all. Hopefully a vaccine is introduced soon enough to help those most at risk.culdeus said:
It's crazy how the attitudes for this changed so quickly.
Went from people sort of caring, to people literally not giving a single crap.
I don't have any idea what a world looks like with full hospitals and this bearing down, I would hate to think we are denying care and I would hate to think a Dr. has to make a live/die call. What a mess.
Good luck Doc. We are all thinking and praying for you and your staff.
It's small to medium social gatherings that we have altered our perception of what is ok, and how to behave in.
I'm of the opinion that masks really don't do much if going to the grocery store or to pickup dry cleaning, but that theater has given us the opinion that if we wear masks there, then we are safe to chill with friends and parents without them which is not the case.
Narrator Voice: They won't.Beat40 said:It's as simple as human nature, honestly. We are not made to be anti-social. We need social interaction, so people will get together. Attitudes are changing because human nature is taking over.culdeus said:Social gathering attitudes are changing. It's anecdotal but at my kids school club sports are driving cases. In other schools parties on weekends are causing shutdown events, both from parents getting it and spreading to kids and the inverse.AggieAuditor said:What attitudes are changing? There's almost nowhere you can go without a mask. People are wearing masks like they are told.culdeus said:This narrative seems a little stretched. Seems like younger people are getting it making it appear the death rate is falling on a broad level. It's hard to gather if let's say 65+ rate of hospital/death is better. Certainly it looked that way for awhile, but what could also be true is that it wasn't enough of an improvement to avoid over-run of hospitals which is by and large what is happening in the mid-size regional hospital districts in Texas.Capitol Ag said:We don't know that they are having to make a live/die call at this point. It sounds like overall, the treatment currently given has reduced the likelihood of death significantly. Obviously, this is very regional and local the way things pop up. One area can be exploding and a close area near there can have no issues at all. Hopefully a vaccine is introduced soon enough to help those most at risk.culdeus said:
It's crazy how the attitudes for this changed so quickly.
Went from people sort of caring, to people literally not giving a single crap.
I don't have any idea what a world looks like with full hospitals and this bearing down, I would hate to think we are denying care and I would hate to think a Dr. has to make a live/die call. What a mess.
Good luck Doc. We are all thinking and praying for you and your staff.
It's small to medium social gatherings that we have altered our perception of what is ok, and how to behave in.
I'm of the opinion that masks really don't do much if going to the grocery store or to pickup dry cleaning, but that theater has given us the opinion that if we wear masks there, then we are safe to chill with friends and parents without them which is not the case.
I also think it's something where cases were way down, so people probably feel pretty safe. Bet a lot of those people were meeting in small to medium social gatherings while numbers were down. Now that numbers are going back up, people are naturally going to pull away more.
At the end of the day, I don't really think this is a mask issue. Sure, masks most likely are a net positive, but I believe it's a people being close to each other issue when they don't know where everyone has been issue.
Families are going to have to make tough decisions in the next few weeks. Unless governments are going to post up at people's houses or patrol neighborhoods, families are going to get together because it's human nature. Just have to hope people are making the most wise decisions for them and their families.
AggieAuditor said:What attitudes are changing? There's almost nowhere you can go without a mask. People are wearing masks like they are told.culdeus said:This narrative seems a little stretched. Seems like younger people are getting it making it appear the death rate is falling on a broad level. It's hard to gather if let's say 65+ rate of hospital/death is better. Certainly it looked that way for awhile, but what could also be true is that it wasn't enough of an improvement to avoid over-run of hospitals which is by and large what is happening in the mid-size regional hospital districts in Texas.Capitol Ag said:We don't know that they are having to make a live/die call at this point. It sounds like overall, the treatment currently given has reduced the likelihood of death significantly. Obviously, this is very regional and local the way things pop up. One area can be exploding and a close area near there can have no issues at all. Hopefully a vaccine is introduced soon enough to help those most at risk.culdeus said:
It's crazy how the attitudes for this changed so quickly.
Went from people sort of caring, to people literally not giving a single crap.
I don't have any idea what a world looks like with full hospitals and this bearing down, I would hate to think we are denying care and I would hate to think a Dr. has to make a live/die call. What a mess.
Good luck Doc. We are all thinking and praying for you and your staff.
Untreated HTN?Marcus Aurelius said:
50s, 60s mainly. Family aggregates. Few 70s 80s. Obesity underlying theme. HTN, DM, heart disease. I lost a 50 and 58 y/o last week. Both morbidly obese.
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What attitudes are changing? There's almost nowhere you can go without a mask. People are wearing masks like they are told.
https://www.al.com/news/2020/11/covid-vaccine-wont-stop-current-wave-of-alabama-cases-hospitalizations-soar.htmlGumby said:
Also if OP is in Alabama, hospitalizations there are down 33% from the summer peak.
I'm confused - the chart in the link shows today as a new daily record of total hospitalized, having passed through the previous peak count two days ago.Gumby said:
Nationwide, hospitalizations are still below the summer peak. Our ICUs in VA are at their lowest levels since the start of the pandemic. Seems like some regional outbreaks are occurring.
Definitely something to keep an eye on. Regional restrictions may be necessary but in VA we are down over 33% since the summer peak and we've been open the whole time. Lockdown makes no sense here.
https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-currently-hospitalized
No. Sorry misread your question. We've had 3 spikes of it here. March. July. Nov. Nov seems to be the worst.Aggie95 said:
are you saying someone had covid 3 times?
Not really. Seems to be just HTN diagnosis. I have it too so it has been a fear for me.aginlakeway said:Untreated HTN?Marcus Aurelius said:
50s, 60s mainly. Family aggregates. Few 70s 80s. Obesity underlying theme. HTN, DM, heart disease. I lost a 50 and 58 y/o last week. Both morbidly obese.
My BP is great with meds. I'm sure it would be very high without meds. Always wondered how covid would impact me.
Hang in there!!