My Thoughts on Ticket Resellers

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trouble said:

It's not with the pass though. It's $1000/ticket plus $650 for the pass.


Still cheap. Just watch.
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Ag13 said:

OilAg01 said:

He is. I wonder if they are even his tickets or if he is selling them for someone else.

He'll probably get that price if he breaks it up. I can see the big SEC series going for ~$100 per ticket on Saturdays.
Isn't this proof that the tickets at face value are under priced
No. The key word is BIG. Like the LSU series. You're not going to get $100 per ticket for Missouri or any Tuesday game.
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TAMU1990 said:

Ag13 said:

OilAg01 said:

He is. I wonder if they are even his tickets or if he is selling them for someone else.

He'll probably get that price if he breaks it up. I can see the big SEC series going for ~$100 per ticket on Saturdays.
Isn't this proof that the tickets at face value are under priced
No. The key word is BIG. Like the LSU series. You're not going to get $100 per ticket for Missouri or any Tuesday game.


Mizzou yes. Midweek no.

People are vastly underestimating how expensive Aggie baseball tickets will cost.
1k a ticket with a parking pass is an incredible deal.
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dermdoc said:

TAMU1990 said:

Ag13 said:

OilAg01 said:

He is. I wonder if they are even his tickets or if he is selling them for someone else.

He'll probably get that price if he breaks it up. I can see the big SEC series going for ~$100 per ticket on Saturdays.
Isn't this proof that the tickets at face value are under priced
No. The key word is BIG. Like the LSU series. You're not going to get $100 per ticket for Missouri or any Tuesday game.


Mizzou yes. Midweek no.

People are vastly underestimating how expensive Aggie baseball tickets will cost.
1k a ticket with a parking pass is an incredible deal.
In your section or lower level, yes. In the upper deck, probably not. Maybe someone will bite for a single game purchase.
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TAMU1990 said:

dermdoc said:

TAMU1990 said:

Ag13 said:

OilAg01 said:

He is. I wonder if they are even his tickets or if he is selling them for someone else.

He'll probably get that price if he breaks it up. I can see the big SEC series going for ~$100 per ticket on Saturdays.
Isn't this proof that the tickets at face value are under priced
No. The key word is BIG. Like the LSU series. You're not going to get $100 per ticket for Missouri or any Tuesday game.


Mizzou yes. Midweek no.

People are vastly underestimating how expensive Aggie baseball tickets will cost.
1k a ticket with a parking pass is an incredible deal.
In your section or lower level, yes. In the upper deck, probably not. Maybe someone will bite for a single game purchase.


I will wager you by the season starts this s a great deal. Look at what the coat is per game.
Not just the ones you and everybody else wants to go to.
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dermdoc said:

trouble said:

It's not with the pass though. It's $1000/ticket plus $650 for the pass.


Still cheap. Just watch.


I expect it'll be nuts. Malcolm asked for club seats for his birthday and I told him not this year.
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TAMU1990 said:

Ag13 said:

OilAg01 said:

He is. I wonder if they are even his tickets or if he is selling them for someone else.

He'll probably get that price if he breaks it up. I can see the big SEC series going for ~$100 per ticket on Saturdays.
Isn't this proof that the tickets at face value are under priced
No. The key word is BIG. Like the LSU series. You're not going to get $100 per ticket for Missouri or any Tuesday game.


So you think altogether the season ticket package will end up selling for less than face value of $420?

As dermdoc has pointed out $1,000/seat is actually a good deal for 35 home games or whatever we have this season. $420/seat is a really really really good deal. Which is my point.
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I bet Derm is right on this. I went to a bunch of games last year. I don't think I paid under $100/seat when I bought online and paid a lot more on big series in good seats. There isn't a ton inventory online for seats, so price gets up there.

Got some on here for cheaper at times. I don't mind paying market. I'm a capitalist. I get the long time support. I have season tickets in football, so I understand the true cost.

One poster mentioned they gave up on playing the PP game. I get it. It's a lot like buying a second home and spending 2-3 weeks a year there. The math just doesn't make sense if you can't get to the majority of games.

Heck if I were A&M I'd have held back those seats and put them
on the open market. I am sure StubHub or SeatGeek has a feature like that for the ticket providers. It's well known that many of the top musical acts buy the best 1000 seats in the house at face and turn around and put them on the market for 10x the face.


Anybody going to the banquet on Feb 1?
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Hey we are seat neighbors, same but rw 4
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I think this year tickets will be a lot more expensive than we are used to. And that is a good thing because it means our team is that great. It'll suck for non-season ticket holders but that's the price of being elite. I'd imagine it's how Georgia football fans felt after they reached prominence

Midweeks should still be very easy and then after opening weekend I'd imagine those two home non conference series will be reasonable. But the big home series (opening weekend, LSU, South Carolina) those will be very pricey
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Quote:

Anybody going to the banquet on Feb 1?

I'll be there! Is there also going to be a First Pitch banquet or is this it? Who was invited to the banquet on 2/1? Haven't really seen tickets publicized for purchase.
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I remember getting an email about it but I had been waiting to see if there was a women's clinic this year. Appears like that's not happening. I spent my extra baseball money on Dugout Club instead.
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So, are there two baseball support organizations now? The Dugout Club and Twelve for 12 or have the two been merged?
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They are still separate. I gotta sell a few more pies a month before I can join 12 for Twelve.
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12th Man Ag said:

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Anybody going to the banquet on Feb 1?

I'll be there! Is there also going to be a First Pitch banquet or is this it? Who was invited to the banquet on 2/1? Haven't really seen tickets publicized for purchase.
It's the 12 for 12 banquet. Honestly, they haven't done a great job marketing the organization. TAU is small and honestly needs marketing help IMO.
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aTm 99 said:

W said:

wasn't there another thread...

that said the TMF had cleaned some of that up in the offseason?
There was a rumor going around that they had done this but I'm not sure the validity of it.
. How could they do this? Take tickets away? There are ticket brokers that have a number of seats. They sell them regularly through the ticket exchange board here.
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How many baseball tickets are wrapped in this ticket broker scheme for baseball? Or your best guesstimate?
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BBQ said:

How many baseball tickets are wrapped in this ticket broker scheme for baseball? Or your best guesstimate?
. I have no idea. I sit in 102 behind the visitors bench so that is a favorite place for resellers just like section 125 in Kyle. You can see them for sale on the ticket exchange forum.

Midweeks I tend to give away and weekends I just try to break even (but I don't count the midweeks in my ticket cost). I will always work to get an Aggie in my seats. My neighbors and the players deserve it.



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Tex100 said:

BBQ said:

How many baseball tickets are wrapped in this ticket broker scheme for baseball? Or your best guesstimate?
. I have no idea. I sit in 102 behind the visitors bench so that is a favorite place for resellers just like section 125 in Kyle. You can see them for sale on the ticket exchange forum.

Midweeks I tend to give away and weekends I just try to break even (but I don't count the midweeks in my ticket cost). I will always work to get an Aggie in my seats. My neighbors and the players deserve it.
I stopped listing my Section 103 Tuesday tickets on Seat Geek a few years ago (or it may have been StubHub at the time) because they were too attractive to fans of opposing teams, which annoyed my neighbors. I've sold a few on the Ticket Exchange, but generally try to find someone in our circle who will take them for free.
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BBQ said:

How many baseball tickets are wrapped in this ticket broker scheme for baseball? Or your best guesstimate?
Very,very few from what I can tell. If there was a bunch of supply on the market, the secondary market would be cheaper. Its seems like there are 18 tickets currently for sale for Elon on Saturday. Less than 10 for Friday night.
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I can't go on Tuesday...but if you are ever looking to offload some weekend seats, let me know. Have 2 kids in sports in Houston but they love going to games. I'll buy them from you and promise I won't sell them. If something comes up at the last minute, I'll give them away to an Aggie on this site.
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What Makes you think they are ticket brokers v. 12thman donors like you and I who happen to be selling there tickets? I guess it doesn't really matter but i find it difficult to believe a rampant issue with ticket brokers exists I would agree a few exceptions could possibly exist. With donation level requirements, the actual amount of pp's needed to qualify for ticket purchase as well as the max 4 tix allowed, the math does not equate to a profit…. I will say if an entity was participating or had the tickets pre PP system and required donations, yes it is possible to realize a profit.

I am of the belief that those exceptions are very few.
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Ag13 said:

TAMU1990 said:

Ag13 said:

OilAg01 said:

He is. I wonder if they are even his tickets or if he is selling them for someone else.

He'll probably get that price if he breaks it up. I can see the big SEC series going for ~$100 per ticket on Saturdays.
Isn't this proof that the tickets at face value are under priced
No. The key word is BIG. Like the LSU series. You're not going to get $100 per ticket for Missouri or any Tuesday game.


So you think altogether the season ticket package will end up selling for less than face value of $420?

As dermdoc has pointed out $1,000/seat is actually a good deal for 35 home games or whatever we have this season. $420/seat is a really really really good deal. Which is my point.
I'm sorry, I'm talking about reselling a ticket for 1 game. I have two season tickets personally. I go to almost all of the games and I have only sold my tickets once last season.

And I agree with all of your statements too.
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BBQ said:

What Makes you think they are ticket brokers v. 12thman donors like you and I who happen to be selling there tickets? I guess it doesn't really matter but i find it difficult to believe a rampant issue with ticket brokers exists I would agree a few exceptions could possibly exist. With donation level requirements, the actual amount of pp's needed to qualify for ticket purchase as well as the max 4 tix allowed, the math does not equate to a profit…. I will say if an entity was participating or had the tickets pre PP system and required donations, yes it is possible to realize a profit.

I am of the belief that those exceptions are very few.
Agree.
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The bottom line is people do not realize how much Aggie baseball tickets are worth
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I don't think there are very many Ags who are reselling all their tickets year after year to solely to make a profit.

I do wish there was a way to get butts in those seats when the tickets don't sell on SeatGeek but someone smarter than me will have to figure out how that would work.
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The problem with the seats everyone sees on TV is that a lot of those ticket owners are being considerate of their neighbors by not listing seats. If you just throw them on SeatGeek, you run the chance of visiting fans buying them and being a nuisance.

So, if they can't go, they just let the seats go empty unless they have good Ag friends they know can use them. There are probably plenty of good Ag fans out there that would love to use them, but the season ticket holder doesn't know all those people. Their group to offer to is limited.

Also, contrary to what many believe on the baseball board, it isn't as simple as sending one text and finding someone to use your tickets. An Aggie only exchange would be great, but we can't even police our own on the ticket board here, so not sure how that would work. Scoundrels always figure out a way to take andvantage of others.
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12th Man Ag said:

The problem with the seats everyone sees on TV is that a lot of those ticket owners are being considerate of their neighbors by not listing seats. If you just throw them on SeatGeek, you run the chance of visiting fans buying them and being a nuisance.

So, if they can't go, they just let the seats go empty unless they have good Ag friends they know can use them. There are probably plenty of good Ag fans out there that would love to use them, but the season ticket holder doesn't know all those people. Their group to offer to is limited.

Also, contrary to what many believe on the baseball board, it isn't as simple as sending one text and finding someone to use your tickets. An Aggie only exchange would be great, but we can't even police our own on the ticket board here, so not sure how that would work. Scoundrels always figure out a way to take andvantage of others.


Any season ticket holders need a new Good Ag Friend, hit me up!

Seriously, very good points and it would be great to figure out the Aggie Exchange idea somehow.
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trouble said:

It's not with the pass though. It's $1000/ticket plus $650 for the pass.


I still contend that if you are going to all the games that is a great deal. And that is the rub as far as expanding the stadium.

Season tickets are going to be more expensive with the renovation. How many people actually want to go to all the games? How much are they willing to pay for season tickets realizing they will only attend say half the games? What is the price point where people will bite the bullet and buy season tickets rather than just buying on the secondary market for select games?

And then you have to couple in the fact that a lot of our fans who want tickets do not live in CS.

Very difficult market analysis.
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should this thread be distinguishing between the lower level and the upper level?

not sure all these issues exist for sections 204 and 208 thru 211
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Which issues? There are definitely some in 206 that I see listed high and with different folks in them nearly every game.

People just don't ***** when they are empty because TV doesn't show them.
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dermdoc said:

trouble said:

It's not with the pass though. It's $1000/ticket plus $650 for the pass.


I still contend that if you are going to all the games that is a great deal. And that is the rub as far as expanding the stadium.

Season tickets are going to be more expensive with the renovation. How many people actually want to go to all the games? How much are they willing to pay for season tickets realizing they will only attend say half the games? What is the price point where people will bite the bullet and buy season tickets rather than just buying on the secondary market for select games?

And then you have to couple in the fact that a lot of our fans who want tickets do not live in CS.

Very difficult market analysis.
Season tickets are a fantastic deal right now and they will go up after the renovation (assuming it happens). Secondary market pricing will likely come down depending on the how many additional seats are added. It's a simple supply demand issue. Right now we have a ton of demand and very little supply. Unless you believe the the demand will increase more than supply, secondary pricing won't rise. What a donor pays for the season ticket has very little to do with what they sell for on the open market.

The winner is the Aggie Athletic department (more revenue), assuming they can get the tickets sold. The loser is current season ticket holders b/c they'll likely reseat and increase prices and likely lower open market prices b/c of the additional seats on the market.

The atmosphere might also take a hit b/c as you mentioned, there are a lot of fans (like myself) that would love to have season tickets but live out of town and have a ton of conflicts. I'll buy tickets and do my best to fill them from this board but that doesn't always work and some people won't put in the effort to get rid of them. So, more empty seats especially in Feb/March. It's basically the issue the Schloss used to complain about. Remember him saying to send the tickets to him? Head Coach and ticket broker is an interesting combo.

I'm also don't think this needs to be the Taj Mahal of facilities. More bleachers in the outfield (works for LSU), some premium down third base. Put 2-3x more suites in. Do the player facilities (i think they are highly overrated. Just pay them more from the increased revenue. The batting cages aren't going to make the kids hit any better and office buildings don't win games. Players, Coaches, Concrete in that order).

Does anybody really think this is getting done? I have my doubts on the expansion part of this.
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well if you're not currently a TMF member you're not getting seats after the reno. I think they will give some first shot at seats to current season ticket holders, then open it up to TMF members and the selection will go by PP. There may be some limited singles left, but I doubt it.

Also we're not building some 15K stadium, there isn't room. That's why i hope it all gets scrubbed and the figure out a way to move it.
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BQ_90 said:

well if you're not currently a TMF member you're not getting seats after the reno. I think they will give some first shot at seats to current season ticket holders, then open it up to TMF members and the selection will go by PP. There may be some limited singles left, but I doubt it.

Also we're not building some 15K stadium, there isn't room. That's why i hope it all gets scrubbed and the figure out a way to move it.
It should be built right across from Century Square near the Bonfire memorial. Our former coach and I talked about that and it made perfect sense. Hotels, restaurants, bars, shops, are already there.

Put an elevated walking bridge and just walk to the games and back. But, we being Aggies are putting some Fine Arts building there which in my opinion should be out by the Bush Library.


And kind of like the Buccee's deal,I will believe the renovation when I see it. I think we get the player's stuff no matter what.
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I agree. Current season ticket holders will get the first shot to maintain/upgrade their current seats- and maybe even buy more. The next group will be long time PP folks with lots of points. There will be very few if any opportunities for folks out side of those two groups. Just my opinion though.
 
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