Easy fix for Blue Bell expansion

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twk
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jt2hunt
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Like it
ensign_beedrill
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Another humble suggestion:
Whether building a new park or not, improve drainage in the stands. There are so many deep puddles in the walking areas around here!
dermdoc
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twk said:

There just is no fix in the current location. We have zero room to move the field, and knocking down existing structures would not be cost effective, and would require relocation for a season or two. We need to build new.

It seems that the powers that be are telling Schloss that there is no space for a ballpark in the campus master plan. This is ridiculous. The master plan that was drawn up in 2017 (easy to find with a Google search) is an urban planners fantasy, that would do things like eliminate 2/3 of the surface parking at Olsen (in favor of a new volleyball facility and a practice diamond) and eliminate 90% of the surface parking at Reed (to be replaced by "green space," more buildings for administrators who don't teach, and a couple of parking garages). Basically, whoever drew it up wants to build double the space for paper pushers, eliminate all surface parking, and get everyone riding mass transit. It will never happen.

Someone who has the ear of the regents needs to make the case that space can, and must, be found for a new ballpark. Do that, and then you have a chance to raise the money. But without a vision, it will never happen.

My proposal is that we take the land lying at the SE corner of the intersection of Olsen Boulevard and University and use it for a new ballpark.



There are a few small buildings in this area, but they are all slated to be demolished as part of the master plan.



Demolishing them for a new ballpark rather than more office space for administrators would be appropriate.

This would allow us to keep the railroad tracks as part of baseball, put us close enough to Northgate and the Northside dorms for people to walk to games, and provide enough space for us to put all the baseball facilities we will need in one location. It would also free up the Olsen space for other uses. I could imagine repurposing Olsen for use as a soccer facility (which, along with the old softball field, would free up another tract).
Agree completely that we need to build at another site. Your spot, close to the Bush Library, north of the Bonfire Memorial, anywhere.

Why can the Buccee guy donate 50 mill and wipe out parking Lot H, which was a fairly high priority point lot, just I suppose it would be right on Wellborn where everybody can see it?

I appreciate the donation but why couldn't that area or any other area be found for a new baseball stadium location?

If you can take away a whole fb parking lot, surely you could find a place for a baseball stadium.

And supposedly the land north of the Bonfire memorial (which I think old be the best location as you can tie it in with Century Square and it is on main campus) has been promised to a Museum of Natural Science, with classrooms also.

Wouldn't it make sense to put that on the land by the Bush Library to tie in the museum theme?

It just seems so short sighted and non visionary.

We need to think 30 years down the road or even longer and the current location of Olsen does not enough land for present day needs and desires, much less in the future.

I am very frustrated as it seems like baseball is an afterthought.

TXAGBQ76
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I also think the new College of Performance, Visualization and Fine Arts building (evidently the first of two) will be built somewhere in that area.
dermdoc
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TXAGBQ76 said:

I also think the new College of Performance, Visualization and Fine Arts building (evidently the first of two) will be built somewhere in that area.


Maybe it was that and not a museum. I got angry when I heard about it and quit listening.

IMHO, Aggie baseball should come first.

Any artsy fartsy or museum stuff should be out by Bush.
TXAGBQ76
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There is also supposed to be a Museum of Natural History in the works
I'm with you though, the University and Athletic Department's support for Aggie baseball needs to step up

I can't be too hard on the new College of P,V and FAs, as my daughter is the new Development Director for it in the Foundation (I know, humble brag!)- I'm very proud of her and that gets my grand boys in town!
dermdoc
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TXAGBQ76 said:

There is also supposed to be a Museum of Natural History in the works
I'm with you though, the University and Athletic Department's support for Aggie baseball needs to step up

I can't be too hard on the new College of P,V and FAs, as my daughter is the new Development Director for it in the Foundation (I know, humble brag!)- I'm very proud of her and that gets my grand boys in town!
Congrats. Just seems like the land by Bush would be perfect for those 2 buildings.
TXAGBQ76
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Absolutely agree!
Hornbeck
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Need a new retractable roof stadium...
dermdoc
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Hornbeck said:

Need a new retractable roof stadium...
Now we are talking.

The Roofer girl roof!
dermdoc
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And why couldn't Buccee be a big baseball fan?

Much more advertising bang for his buck with Buccee's Aggie ball park.
RED AG 98
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Incredibly frustrating and depressing. I can't believe we're being so shortsighted on baseball -- again!
dermdoc
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I think there are a lot of academia types who could care less about athletics and probably are anti athletic. Even though the money generated just by the presence of athletics is a very important factor on their salaries.
TXAGBQ76
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I remember when I was there, there definitely instructors and professors who articulated their dislike for athletics and the Corps.
12th Man Ag
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Seems like the biggest thing keeping us from building a new stadium is money. I'm sure space could be found if there was a lead donor ready to pony up $40-50MM. I guess we don't have any BMA's that care much about baseball. Mediocre football will get all our money from here to eternity.

I am ready to donate to the new park, but I don't have lead donor money. I gotta think if we threw money at baseball like we do football, with Schloss on board, we would build an elite program.
dermdoc
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TXAGBQ76 said:

I remember when I was there, there definitely instructors and professors who articulated their dislike for athletics and the Corps.
Yep. Politics seems to control everything.
75AG
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Get her and Schulte into a bidding war. Bet we get it for free!
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dermdoc
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12th Man Ag said:

Seems like the biggest thing keeping us from building a new stadium is money. I'm sure space could be found if there was a lead donor ready to pony up $40-50MM. I guess we don't have any BMA's that care much about baseball. Mediocre football will get all our money from here to eternity.

I am ready to donate to the new park, but I don't have lead donor money. I gotta think if we threw money at baseball like we do football, with Schloss on board, we would build an elite program.


Agree completely.
BBQ
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What does chickens have to do with baseball and Olsen Field?

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Buford T. Justice
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I've had a new thought today….

Is the Rec Center a sacred cow?
It is quickly approaching its 30th birthday, albeit it was renovated a while back. I think that was just the weight room. But, let a few more years pass, like I mentioned in earlier posts, and then we "might" have a chance to some wheeling and dealing among the university leadership. We're going to need a new basketball arena sooner than later and if the rRec Center isn't a sacred cow, then athletics could "potentially" have an opportunity to address two venues at one time, and perhaps have an integrated design.

Call me crazy.
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Buford T. Justice said:

I've had a new thought today….

Is the Rec Center a sacred cow?
It is quickly approaching its 30th birthday, albeit it was renovated a while back. I think that was just the weight room. But, let a few more years pass, like I mentioned in earlier posts, and then we "might" have a chance to some wheeling and dealing among the university leadership. We're going to need a new basketball arena sooner than later and if the rRec Center isn't a sacred cow, then athletics could "potentially" have an opportunity to address to venues at one time, and perhaps have an integrated design.

Call me crazy.


They just finished an expansion on it in the last few years. And paid out of student funds.
trouble
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Yeah, that ain't gonna happen.

I wouldn't say it's a sacred cow but the renovation and expansion is still new.
twk
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Bondag said:

Buford T. Justice said:

I've had a new thought today….

Is the Rec Center a sacred cow?
It is quickly approaching its 30th birthday, albeit it was renovated a while back. I think that was just the weight room. But, let a few more years pass, like I mentioned in earlier posts, and then we "might" have a chance to some wheeling and dealing among the university leadership. We're going to need a new basketball arena sooner than later and if the rRec Center isn't a sacred cow, then athletics could "potentially" have an opportunity to address to venues at one time, and perhaps have an integrated design.

Call me crazy.


They just finished an expansion on it in the last few years. And paid out of student funds.
That's a point that should not be overlooked, and why I suggested the location that I did. The buildings on my tract are scheduled to be demolished, at some point, under the master plan, so finding PUF money to build a replacement (somewhere else) is already part of the plan.
twk
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And supposedly the land north of the Bonfire memorial (which I think old be the best location as you can tie it in with Century Square and it is on main campus) has been promised to a Museum of Natural Science, with classrooms also.
That would definitely beat out anywhere around the Bush Library, especially for us old folks. But, my suggested location would be a little more convenient with regard to the Northside dorms and most of the private dorms at Northgate. I'd be happy with either. At this point, I'd settle for something out by the Equine Center if they built it right.
Buford T. Justice
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The polo field(s) is where the College of Performance, Visualization and Fine Arts will be housed. That's off the table.
dermdoc
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twk said:

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And supposedly the land north of the Bonfire memorial (which I think old be the best location as you can tie it in with Century Square and it is on main campus) has been promised to a Museum of Natural Science, with classrooms also.
That would definitely beat out anywhere around the Bush Library, especially for us old folks. But, my suggested location would be a little more convenient with regard to the Northside dorms and most of the private dorms at Northgate. I'd be happy with either. At this point, I'd settle for something out by the Equine Center if they built it right.
Agree. Just do it right.
PWR85
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Again, not to be a wet blanket, but a new stadium at any location, including the current site , is not happening.
TXAGBQ76
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That also includes the swim facility
SECNetworkAg
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Why not wait a year or two and get the funding and do it right?

Seems dumb to rush and not do it right.
PWR85
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I completely agree with you
dermdoc
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PWR85 said:

I completely agree with you
Amen.
RED AG 98
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I hope sanity will prevail and folks like you are able to make the leadership listen to reason. I can only imagine that this is what lead Schloss to comment after the Arky series, even though after the initial rounds of discussion were had and some monies allocated.

How do we voice our displeasure that they appear to be making another extremely shortsighted decision?
Buford T. Justice
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We do have lots of variance on the current site, but we're going to have to sacrifice some parking. But, you could go with another garage on the left field side and have a party deck on top.
 
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