Bad Bull from our fans?

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A lot of the bad behavior is coming from folks older than me and I'm not exactly young.
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I've sat 2 seats from him and it's not that difficult to look at their feet instead.
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Duuuuuuuuude. It's nothing like a strip joint and I don't think they are uncomfortable.
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Aggieangler93 said:

The dancing girls issue is entirely different when you are sitting on row 1, than anywhere else in the stadium. If you glance up at them, you are basically looking up their skirt. If you look away the whole time, that seems rude too. I am OK with them being at Olsen. I just wish they danced on the field instead of on top of the dugouts. I have sat in row 1 a handful of times in the last year within a few seats of prop guy as my friend with season tickets helps me out from time to time. Props is not a bad guy and he normally keeps it light. The opposing players usually get an earful, and by the end of a series, they usually joke back in most cases.

But as a father of a college aged girl, I can tell you that when I last sat there, the dancing girls made me uncomfortable also due to the proximity of their butts directly above my eye level. And I am not a guy that is usually uncomfortable with cheerleaders, dancers, or any of that. From row 1, it just seems sleazy. If you haven't sat in row 1 lower deck, I am sure you see things differently (so to speak)! Being within 4 feet, directly below, is a very unique perspective.

As for any of our fans hollering at our players in a negative manner, I am not in favor of that by any means. People get hot-headed and forget that these are kids trying their hardest. Those people need to calm down or focus all their hate on the umpires, who usually deserve it in spades. LOL
I sat row 1 behind the dugout at Arkansas a few years ago, so I know what you are talking about. It was even more awkward in my case because I was sitting next to the parents of one of the dancing girls (although she did not dance that day due to injury). I'm not disputing that it's awkward.

However, there are over 1000 seats downstairs that would be less awkward. If it's really that big of a problem, I bet a swap could be arranged. There are plusses and minuses to sitting behind the dugout, so you have to take the good with the bad.
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At least he revises and extends his comments after the fact…
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twk said:

etchasketch said:

I agree with some of the posters on here and the premium board that the prop guy is in a tough spot. He doesn't want to watch the girls shake their stuff from below because it can five 'creepy old man' vibes, so he reads a newspaper. Could he look at his phone? Probably. But then does he get called out for looking at his phone? Maybe. Maybe the newspaper is a generational thing. I don't know. Does he get up and leave every time they come out? He could, but then he would be called out for leaving. He's going to be considered rude every time. At least he isn't yelling profanities at them. Maybe he should wave dollar bills. Would anyone be ok with that? I'm sure worse has happened at other places.

I am of the mind the dancers don't belong at Olsen. I don't know if the comment that they're at Olsen because Schloss' daughter danced at TCU is accurate, but I know TCU had dancers. I do feel like the dancers are a hill Schloss has chosen to die on, and he will be offended regardless of what anyone does or says about it.
If you think it's just happenstance that Prop Guy has a newspaper to brandish during the dance routine, I've got some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.

If proximity is that big of a problem, he can change seats.
Exactly Tom. I wasn't at Olsen but I'm thinking this bit by Prop Guy is harkening way back in the day when the whole Student Section would hold up The Battalion in front of their faces and rattle the pages during the starter introductions of the opposing team at basketball games. If he was simply quietly reading a paper, looking at his phone or chose that moment to stretch his legs with a short stroll that Schloss would have noticed? Prop guy is seemingly going out of his way to show his dislike of the dance team and showing them up as he did last season when he chose to wear a paper sack during one of their routines. Maybe Schoss shouldn't call fans out on such things but better yet maybe we as fans should carry ourselves in such a manner in which there wasn't a reason to do so.
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This from a former player, if you can't get behind what Schloss is doing for this program, then you need to just go away. I don't care if he wants us all to light farts after homeruns, I'm in.
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Yet the same people continue to do the same crap because of their selfishness. Who does it benefit except them?
That's what I don't get. I know it's not your specialty, but you're a doctor. Can you explain how people who are constantly posting negative comments towards our players and coaches benefiting themselves?
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trouble said:

Duuuuuuuuude. It's nothing like a strip joint and I don't think they are uncomfortable.


They look pretty dang uncomfortable trying to dance to "Deep In the Heart of Texas" and, trying to remember the other song from Sunday, but something equally as far-removed from anything they've ever danced to at Reed or anywhere else.

It's forced and awkward and I don't think the fans or the dancers are getting much enjoyment out of it as a whole.

My wife complains about the dancers at Reed but I took her to the game on Sunday and she just said she felt sorry for them.
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McInnis said:

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Yet the same people continue to do the same crap because of their selfishness. Who does it benefit except them?
That's what I don't get. I know it's not your specialty, but you're a doctor. Can you explain how people who are constantly posting negative comments towards our players and coaches benefiting themselves?


I think it is a vent release tactic. They are half empty glass people which is fine. They get angry and vent but at the wrong people, the players.

May I ask how does it benefit anybody else but the person venting?

Why do they do it?
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Bernie13 said:

This from a former player, if you can't get behind what Schloss is doing for this program, then you need to just go away. I don't care if he wants us all to light farts after homeruns, I'm in.
BRILLIANT!!! Literally!!!
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DTP02 said:

trouble said:

Duuuuuuuuude. It's nothing like a strip joint and I don't think they are uncomfortable.


They look pretty dang uncomfortable trying to dance to "Deep In the Heart of Texas" and, trying to remember the other song from Sunday, but something equally as far-removed from anything they've ever danced to at Reed or anywhere else.

It's forced and awkward and I don't think the fans or the dancers are getting much enjoyment out of it as a whole.


Everybody around us love the dancers.

Sorry, but I do not get the angst.
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DTP02 said:

trouble said:

Duuuuuuuuude. It's nothing like a strip joint and I don't think they are uncomfortable.


They look pretty dang uncomfortable trying to dance to "Deep In the Heart of Texas" and, trying to remember the other song from Sunday, but something equally as far-removed from anything they've ever danced to at Reed or anywhere else.

It's forced and awkward and I don't think the fans or the dancers are getting much enjoyment out of it as a whole.

My wife complains about the dancers at Reed but I took her to the game on Sunday and she just said she felt sorry for them.
More forced than the milkmen??? I think not…

I want to revise and extend my remarks…Cedar Rapids Kernels and other MiLB clubs use dancers around the infield to engage the crowds between innings. Maybe adding in the Chicken Dance would be a perfect segue…
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trouble said:

Duuuuuuuuude. It's nothing like a strip joint and I don't think they are uncomfortable.


1. Not a duuuude
2. The other woman there with me felt the same way
3. I'm not being derogatory to them. My daughter was in cheer throughout school and I completely respect what they do but their placement is odd. I don't need to see them dancing 8 feet in front of me.
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The song choices aren't great but they aren't uncomfortable because they are "strip club" distance from the fans.
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Bernie13 said:

This from a former player, if you can't get behind what Schloss is doing for this program, then you need to just go away. I don't care if he wants us all to light farts after homeruns, I'm in.


You are a savant.

Some people will gripe if they win the lottery.

BTHO Houston Christian!
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Self fulfilling prophecy. They ***** about everything so that when something goes bad, they can gloat that they were right all along. It's a strange cycle.
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trouble said:

The song choices aren't great but they aren't uncomfortable because they are "strip club" distance from the fans.


I guess some people have never been to a strip club or seen one on TV because these ladies are definitely not it.
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dermdoc said:

Bernie13 said:

This from a former player, if you can't get behind what Schloss is doing for this program, then you need to just go away. I don't care if he wants us all to light farts after homeruns, I'm in.


You are a savant.

Some people will gripe if they win the lottery.

BTHO Houston Christian!
WHO????
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Sea Pony 07 said:

trouble said:

The song choices aren't great but they aren't uncomfortable because they are "strip club" distance from the fans.


I guess some people have never been to a strip club or seen one on TV.
It's important that we put tip buckets on the dugouts if it's strip club material…
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DTP02 said:

trouble said:

Duuuuuuuuude. It's nothing like a strip joint and I don't think they are uncomfortable.


They look pretty dang uncomfortable trying to dance to "Deep In the Heart of Texas" and, trying to remember the other song from Sunday, but something equally as far-removed from anything they've ever danced to at Reed or anywhere else.

It's forced and awkward and I don't think the fans or the dancers are getting much enjoyment out of it as a whole.

My wife complains about the dancers at Reed but I took her to the game on Sunday and she just said she felt sorry for them.


I wish I could introduce you and your wife to these fine Aggie ladies.

And who thinks of a "strip show" when these ladies dance?
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DTP02 said:

trouble said:

Duuuuuuuuude. It's nothing like a strip joint and I don't think they are uncomfortable.


They look pretty dang uncomfortable trying to dance to "Deep In the Heart of Texas" and, trying to remember the other song from Sunday, but something equally as far-removed from anything they've ever danced to at Reed or anywhere else.

It's forced and awkward and I don't think the fans or the dancers are getting much enjoyment out of it as a whole.

My wife complains about the dancers at Reed but I took her to the game on Sunday and she just said she felt sorry for them.


It was Twist & Shout without the lyrics. We did the dancers a solid by dancing and singing it ourselves and they seemed to appreciate it. They were giggling at us after it was over.
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greg.w.h said:

Sea Pony 07 said:

trouble said:

The song choices aren't great but they aren't uncomfortable because they are "strip club" distance from the fans.


I guess some people have never been to a strip club or seen one on TV.
It's important that we put tip buckets on the dugouts if it's strip club material…


Would that be an NCAA violation?
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I may be wrong but "prop guy" is the same jerk who wore a bag over his head last year. I think. That just makes you look like a damn fool.
Tom Hooper '82,'84,'86---- College Station, Texas
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Duuuuuuuuude isn't gendered. Everyone gets to be dude.

I'm sorry y'all are that uncomfortable but I think that's a you problem that you are projecting on the dancers as well. They don't make me uncomfortable at all and last I checked, I'm also a woman.

If it really bothers you, look away or get up as soon as they are announced. Their dances are not suggestive, their outfits often cover more than any cheer uniform. Heck, they're often wearing more than a lot of girls in the stands.
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That is correct.
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trouble said:

Self fulfilling prophecy. They ***** about everything so that when something goes bad, they can gloat that they were right all along. It's a strange cycle.
Ding, ding, ding.
Tom Hooper '82,'84,'86---- College Station, Texas
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dermdoc said:


And who thinks of a "strip show" when these ladies dance?


I knew someone would take this out of context.

It's not the girls themselves, it's where they're placed.
trouble
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And it's not at all like a strip club
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Sea Pony 07 said:

greg.w.h said:

Sea Pony 07 said:

trouble said:

The song choices aren't great but they aren't uncomfortable because they are "strip club" distance from the fans.


I guess some people have never been to a strip club or seen one on TV.
It's important that we put tip buckets on the dugouts if it's strip club material…


Would that be an NCAA violation?
Well…if it doesn't solicit tips, then it isn't???
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trouble said:

And it's not at all like a strip club


You sound like you speak like from experience. You're very adament!
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We've beat the dead horse. Schloss addressed it today. Let's move on and BTHO HCU.
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I'm just going to guess I've been inside more than you have. That's not a flex or anything. Just a statement.

There is nothing about their placement that makes me think of any strip club.
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greg.w.h said:

Sea Pony 07 said:

greg.w.h said:

Sea Pony 07 said:

trouble said:

The song choices aren't great but they aren't uncomfortable because they are "strip club" distance from the fans.


I guess some people have never been to a strip club or seen one on TV.
It's important that we put tip buckets on the dugouts if it's strip club material…


Would that be an NCAA violation?
Well…if it doesn't solicit tips, then it isn't???
Revising and extending my comments: my freshman year I went to summer school and money was tight and ended up putting my heart on my sleeve about that with my scholarship sponsor (Frank L. '41 and Sheila Thompson.)

Frank called me and asked what I needed and I told him $100 was more than enough. He sent me $1,000 in summer of 1980. So my scholarship was academic not sports which made that legal…
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One Louder said:

dermdoc said:


And who thinks of a "strip show" when these ladies dance?


I knew someone would take this out of context.

It's not the girls themselves, it's where they're placed.

Guess my mind is not in that place.

Sorry.
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