Shouldn't throw anyone out....but how hard is it not to be a slapnuts to our own team?

There was a time when the people around him would have shut him up. These days, however, people are more likely to ignore it or worse, join in.

No one should ever be making it personal about student athletes in any sport. These young adults work hard to represent us.

Sure, you can be frustrated about multiple pop ups and strike outs. Do you really think you are more frustrated than the batter? Is screaming at him and being profane going to help him hit better the next time?

All you do is show your ass.

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There was a time when the people around him would have shut him up. These days, however, people are more likely to ignore it or worse, join in.

No one should ever be making it personal about student athletes in any sport. These young adults work hard to represent us.

Sure, you can be frustrated about multiple pop ups and strike outs. Do you really think you are more frustrated than the batter? Is screaming at him and being profane going to help him hit better the next time?

All you do is show your ass.

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And I'm fine with Schloss calling them out. Don't want him saying something after a game? Self police like we used to do. Don't tolerate ******* behavior from the person sitting next to you.

I'm surprised no other fans called out your fan ragging on your players. If Schloss heard it (I'd assume he's able to tune out a lot of crowd jibber jabber at this stage in his career) I'm sure it irritated the other Ags around him. Fans don't need to "police" a situation like that, but sometimes the crowd needs to heckle the heckler to take some of their power away.

I love that baseball, for the most part, is a game of traditions, and I can't stand dancing girls at baseball games. Football - 100%, Basketball - 100%, Dance/Pom as its own sport/event - 100%, but please not baseball. It's a minor league gimmick that's leaked into the sport unfortunately.

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3 pages and I still don't know what happened


Some jerk was badmouthing our players from behind the dugout. Schloss called him out in his presser and let his emotions get away. Thin skinned people on here took it personally.

Pretty much the nutshell.

I really don't know when this fanbase got so damn soft. Y'all go find your safe place now I'm sure bad old Schloss will apologize and beg your forgiveness. Christ you'd think he'd shot Rev.

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Agreed. People will take an inch and go a mile to make a bigger deal about it than it was. He was simply really irritated from hearing it all game probably mixed in with the struggle to start the year.

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Didn't Schloss do exactly the same thing, except even moreso? He took a great crowd showing, on a Sunday against Portland, for a team that was struggling, and made the focus a couple of fans saying less than encouraging things and a guy holding up a paper.

I was sitting pretty close to all of this and didn't notice any of it, but I talked to someone who sat right behind our dugout and he says the only thing he heard was a few yells like "swing the bat" when Targac had that horrible at bat where he watched three strikes, or "stop trying to hit a home run every swing." Maybe there was more but it didn't make a big impression on many people, and I don't think it's normal that the coach would be one of the ones to pick up on it more than anyone else.

Pretty tame stuff and not anything worth singling out in a postgame presser after a dramatic win in front of a great crowd.

I think Schloss was frustrated, stressed from the game, was super hot about Chestnut running thru the stop sign, and then relieved excited about the win, and the combo of all that had him hot and on edge, and he chose his subjects and words poorly.

Doesn't change how excited and happy we are to have him as coach, but he doesn't need a knee-jerk defense of those comments either.

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"I don't know what kind of place this is, but I thought there was some kind of Aggie loyalty around here."

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I agree with you. This is unacceptable. Careful how you use your words, Coach Schloss.

I didn't say he didn't make a mistake. I'm pointing out that it was simply out of frustration, and not some deep seeded mentality of him not wanting to be here or looking to leave.

I love my family, not planning on looking for another one, and I've said things in the heat of the moment that I regretted.

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I'm really the same obnoxious ***** in person that I am here

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So…you're an equal opportunity offender, too???

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Absofreakinlutely.

You wanna act a fool, I'll pull out the mom face

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She'll do it, too!!! Don't test her!!!

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She brought you into this world and she can take you out!

I will be honest. I am so into the game that I barely notice the dance team and have never singled out the guy behind the third base dugout.

And where we sit nobody disparages our players and 99% of our heckling is directed at the ump.

I have never understood berating our players at the game or on here. But go read any game thread and it is frankly embarrassing.

I am privileged to know some of the players and families and they read and hear this stuff. Recruits do too.

Yet the same people continue to do the same crap because of their selfishness. Who does it benefit except them?

And my take on Schloss's comments were that he was trying to tell us a couple of things. The content of our yells or comments do matter as it affects the team. Like it or not.

Also that we as fans can try to clean it up, both on a personal level, and with gentle criticism of those fans who are out of line.

In other words, do not take the comments personally and be offended by them as they were not directed at you. And I am always learning.

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I think Schloss loves it here. Anyone reading a desire on his part to leave into those comments is wrong, but you're also never going to endear yourself to Aggies as a coach by questioning their loyalty and he shouldn't have said that.

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No, but the reaction by many on here that Hoop is referring to IMO comes from a feeling from some folks that he still bleeds purple. He has a soft spot for that program bc it's his baby and he built it. They were going to cancel baseball up here before they hired him. But he knows A&M is where his legacy will be built bc it'll come with a championship. And I agree, he loves the support. I think we write it off as he was way hot under the collar and we move on.

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I really don't know when this fanbase got so damn soft. Y'all go find your safe place now I'm sure bad old Schloss will apologize and beg your forgiveness. Christ you'd think he'd shot Rev.

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That monster!

This x12... I don't know when it happened, but our fanbase across all sports has gone incredibly soft, especially with football and baseball.

I bet most of the folks *****ing about Schloss haven't ever been to a game since he's been here and the majority of those think they've got baseball knowledge because the played all the way up to the pony league 40 years ago and know how to Google.

Baseball has more parity than just about any sport out there (I'll be honest I've got no clue about swimming/diving/tennis/etc.). We talk about the parity in the SEC, which it's on a different level due to the talent across the board in the SEC, but that still doesn't change the fact that there are still quality teams out there all across the country. Anyone recall a little school out of Carolina that won it all a few years ago?? Anyone know who arky lost to the other day??

Portland is a team full of 5th years and they aren't coming from a "weak" conference either. The bottom line is they're a solid team. Yes, we shouldn't have given up two of three and we need to fix some issues in our own house. We're the more talented team and there isn't any arguing that. It can be frustrating and there's no one person more frustrated that the players in that locker room. Baseball is a long season, and there's a whole lot more left.

Next step is this weekend in Houston. I'll be at Minute Maid, with a whole lot of maroon blooded Aggies to have a damn good time and support this team. That's what ****in' counts.

This morning on Texags radio, Coach Schloss clarified his postgame comments. He doubled down that the Aggies are the best fans in the country and are extremely loyal. If we can get the bats warmed up, I think it will relieve some of the tensions both in the dugout and in the stands. After the success last year, we all just want to see the Ags back in Omaha.

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I will be honest. I am so into the game that I barely notice the dance team and have never singled out the guy behind the third base dugout.

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This. Schloss really has more and better things to focus on than what fans are doing in the stands. Yet this is what he chooses to ruminate about and bring up at the press conference. He needs to let it go the same way most of us have just accepted that the dance team will be at baseball games. I've never known a coach to be more invested in what individuals are doing in the stands and controlling of the day-to-day operations.

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I have never understood berating our players at the game or on here. But go read any game thread and it is frankly embarrassing.

I am privileged to know some of the players and families and they read and hear this stuff. Recruits do too.

Yet the same people continue to do the same crap because of their selfishness. Who does it benefit except them?

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So much this. Game day threads during the football season are the worst. And people who do it invariably defend themselves by mocking anyone who says negative comments on TexAgs can hurt our program.

No problemo with the dance team here. Gives the ladies another venue to perform.

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I think Schloss loves it here. Anyone reading a desire on his part to leave into those comments is wrong, but you're also never going to endear yourself to Aggies as a coach by questioning their loyalty and he shouldn't have said that.

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No, but the reaction by many on here that Hoop is referring to IMO comes from a feeling from some folks that he still bleeds purple. He has a soft spot for that program bc it's his baby and he built it. They were going to cancel baseball up here before they hired him. But he knows A&M is where his legacy will be built bc it'll come with a championship. And I agree, he loves the support. I think we write it off as he was way hot under the collar and we move on.

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I think some folks may be suffering from Eric Hyman Syndrome.

Schloss shoots from the hip. Sometimes, he's a little injudicious in what he says, but it's not because he's thinking, boy, I wish we could do it the way we did at TCU.

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I will be honest. I am so into the game that I barely notice the dance team and have never singled out the guy behind the third base dugout.

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This. Schloss really has more and better things to focus on than what fans are doing in the stands. Yet this is what he chooses to ruminate about and bring up at the press conference. He needs to let it go the same way most of us have just accepted that the dance team will be at baseball games. I've never known a coach to be more invested in what individuals are doing in the stands and controlling of the day-to-day operations.

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Calling it a press conference paints a picture rather different from reality. If you watch the video, you can see that Schloss is still breathing pretty heavily. He's still wound up from punching through a barrier that was getting really frustrating. Hell, he got ejected Friday night. If someone were to stick a microphone in my face under those circumstances, lord knows what I would say.

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I will be honest. I am so into the game that I barely notice the dance team and have never singled out the guy behind the third base dugout.

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This. Schloss really has more and better things to focus on than what fans are doing in the stands. Yet this is what he chooses to ruminate about and bring up at the press conference. He needs to let it go the same way most of us have just accepted that the dance team will be at baseball games. I've never known a coach to be more invested in what individuals are doing in the stands and controlling of the day-to-day operations.

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We have never had a coach like Schloss.....he's brought an entire new mentality.... he's a winner. I assume every little detail matters to him.

I agree with some of the posters on here and the premium board that the prop guy is in a tough spot. He doesn't want to watch the girls shake their stuff from below because it can five 'creepy old man' vibes, so he reads a newspaper. Could he look at his phone? Probably. But then does he get called out for looking at his phone? Maybe. Maybe the newspaper is a generational thing. I don't know. Does he get up and leave every time they come out? He could, but then he would be called out for leaving. He's going to be considered rude every time. At least he isn't yelling profanities at them. Maybe he should wave dollar bills. Would anyone be ok with that? I'm sure worse has happened at other places.

I am of the mind the dancers don't belong at Olsen. I don't know if the comment that they're at Olsen because Schloss' daughter danced at TCU is accurate, but I know TCU had dancers. I do feel like the dancers are a hill Schloss has chosen to die on, and he will be offended regardless of what anyone does or says about it.

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I agree with some of the posters on here and the premium board that the prop guy is in a tough spot. He doesn't want to watch the girls shake their stuff from below because it can five 'creepy old man' vibes, so he reads a newspaper. Could he look at his phone? Probably. But then does he get called out for looking at his phone? Maybe. Maybe the newspaper is a generational thing. I don't know. Does he get up and leave every time they come out? He could, but then he would be called out for leaving. He's going to be considered rude every time. At least he isn't yelling profanities at them. Maybe he should wave dollar bills. Would anyone be ok with that? I'm sure worse has happened at other places.

I am of the mind the dancers don't belong at Olsen. I don't know if the comment that they're at Olsen because Schloss' daughter danced at TCU is accurate, but I know TCU had dancers. I do feel like the dancers are a hill Schloss has chosen to die on, and he will be offended regardless of what anyone does or says about it.

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If you think it's just happenstance that Prop Guy has a newspaper to brandish during the dance routine, I've got some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.

If proximity is that big of a problem, he can change seats.

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I will be honest. I am so into the game that I barely notice the dance team and have never singled out the guy behind the third base dugout.

And where we sit nobody disparages our players and 99% of our heckling is directed at the ump.

I have never understood berating our players at the game or on here. But go read any game thread and it is frankly embarrassing.

I am privileged to know some of the players and families and they read and hear this stuff. Recruits do too.

Yet the same people continue to do the same crap because of their selfishness. Who does it benefit except them?

And my take on Schloss's comments were that he was trying to tell us a couple of things. The content of our yells or comments do matter as it affects the team. Like it or not.

Also that we as fans can try to clean it up, both on a personal level, and with gentle criticism of those fans who are out of line.

In other words, do not take the comments personally and be offended by them as they were not directed at you. And I am always learning.

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Well said, Derm.

Imo, it's bad bull to criticize our youngsters and it's also bad bull to use profanity in a setting that includes women and children. When I was a younger man, I would help police my area. If you used profanity , I would remind you that there were people around you offended and ask you to knock it off. If you criticize our players, I would remind you they are our guys and deserve our support. Get on the refs, umps.

I know folks don't think the dancing girls "belong" at the baseball games. I get it. I don't think yell leaders are needed at our baseball games , either. But they DO DESERVE TO BE RESPECTED. They are AGGIES.

The facts are people just ain't raised like past generations were. We are less respectable, common courtesy is fading fast.

I still think AGGIELAND is better than most places, but we need to do better. I think that was Schloss's message. Be A&M , a cut above the rest.

I recall he did/said something very simliar about this time last year after some unexpected losses...... I've been through multiple coaches in my fan-history at A&M and have never seen someone so quick to consistently judge an entire fan base on a few bad apples. That said, our boys should never hear fan criticism purposefully.

The dancing girls issue is entirely different when you are sitting on row 1, than anywhere else in the stadium. If you glance up at them, you are basically looking up their skirt. If you look away the whole time, that seems rude too. I am OK with them being at Olsen. I just wish they danced on the field instead of on top of the dugouts. I have sat in row 1 a handful of times in the last year within a few seats of prop guy as my friend with season tickets helps me out from time to time. Props is not a bad guy and he normally keeps it light. The opposing players usually get an earful, and by the end of a series, they usually joke back in most cases.

But as a father of a college aged girl, I can tell you that when I last sat there, the dancing girls made me uncomfortable also due to the proximity of their butts directly above my eye level. And I am not a guy that is usually uncomfortable with cheerleaders, dancers, or any of that. From row 1, it just seems sleazy. If you haven't sat in row 1 lower deck, I am sure you see things differently (so to speak)! Being within 4 feet, directly below, is a very unique perspective.

As for any of our fans hollering at our players in a negative manner, I am not in favor of that by any means. People get hot-headed and forget that these are kids trying their hardest. Those people need to calm down or focus all their hate on the umpires, who usually deserve it in spades. LOL

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I love that baseball, for the most part, is a game of traditions, and I can't stand dancing girls at baseball games. Football - 100%, Basketball - 100%, Dance/Pom as its own sport/event - 100%, but please not baseball. It's a minor league gimmick that's leaked into the sport unfortunately.

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I completely agree. I think it has to do with the girls being right there so close as if they were in a strip joint. I'm not sure they enjoy being there either. I just look away when they're dancing because I feel uncomfortable for them.