Did you miss the part about contacting the foul pole?
quote:That's a correct statement of the rules. But it doesn't change anything here, though.quote:
It means at least part of the ball was in fair territory when it broke the plane that is the outfield fence.
This isn't football. A batted ball can "cross the 'plane'" of the outfield fence, and be blown back into play if it doesn't contact anything outside of the field.
Or caught for an out.
Or bobbled back in for a hit/error.
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You're misunderstanding geometry, which makes some of the above pretty rich. See the following, see if you can think it out for yourself.
Hint: Foul line is horizontal, the foul pole is vertical.
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A ball that clips the foul pole by definition first contacted fair territory.
If somehow a ball lands by touching the foul pole and the foul side of the top of the fence simultaneously, it would be both foul and fair by the rules. One of those things I hope to see one day... Like an unassisted triple play. Although it's physically extremely improbable.
quote:Wrong.
Nope. The pole is outside of the field of play, but fair territory. Contacted is the key.
quote:quote:Wrong.
Nope. The pole is outside of the field of play, but fair territory. Contacted is the key.
The foul pole and foul line are both "in the field of play".
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Rebel, I can't believe you are in still on here arguing fair/foul. I guess you see this as a hill worth dying on.
quote:quote:quote:Wrong.
Nope. The pole is outside of the field of play, but fair territory. Contacted is the key.
The foul pole and foul line are both "in the field of play".
The foul poles are outside the field of play. If they were in the field a ball that bounced off of one back into the park would be playable. It is not.