Need deets please.bobinator said:
I was a college student in this town also, hell I even got arrested IN Reed Arena, so I know it can be annoying. I'm just saying it's not exclusive to A&M. It's how most college towns are.
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expresswrittenconsent said:PWestAg18 said:
If you're driving between the hours of 11:00PM-6:00AM follow the road laws to a tee. They're looking to pull anyone and everyone over and check for a DUI. Yes, getting a possession charge slapped on you for a "wide right turn" certainly sucks, but the practice of going after every minor traffic violation may take the drunk/high driver off the road that otherwise would've hit you or someone you care about. That practice isn't unique to CSPD and I'm glad they do it.
You're glad that as a citizen if you choose to go grocery shopping or drive to work or head out on a trip, or go out to eat btwn 11 and 6 that police enforce the traffic laws differently from the other 17 hrs per day? Maybe we could just put a curfew in there for you. Your papers, comrade?
We had a girl killed on University just three months ago by a driver high out of his mind. Do you really think CSPD is gonna take the chance ignoring a "Wide Right Turn" late at night anymore? If you do something in a vehicle late at night that isn't 100% legal then you'll get pulled over. If you have nothing illegal to hide you'll get a traffic ticket or a warning. If the officer has any reason to believe you're drunk or high then you're in for a bad night. If that keeps innocent students from getting plowed over in a crosswalk on University by a local teenager high on a combination of Xanax and cocaine then yeah I'm totally cool with it comrade. Between work and grad school I'm out on the roads in BCS at some late hours. I go the speed limit, turn into the proper lanes, and signal when required. Not hard to understand you're in a college town and getting scrutinized harder after 11:00PM then you do at 11:00AM
He's always been a very nice kid. He takes the time out every game to speak to my 10-year-old son and encourage him. Even brought him onto the floor for warm-ups during the Tennessee game last year. This kid deserves to come out on top.
https://texags.com/forums/7/topics/1340758johnnyblaze36 said:Need deets please.bobinator said:
I was a college student in this town also, hell I even got arrested IN Reed Arena, so I know it can be annoying. I'm just saying it's not exclusive to A&M. It's how most college towns are.
Texags and folks with long memories can always provide...
Amen brotha. Got nabbed at Kyle during the 07 Texas game, cops said they wouldn't arrest me If I had someone pick me up. It was Thanksgiving and everyone was at the game, so that didn't happen. Found out we won and Fran resigned in the pokey. Shared the paddy wagon with a quite a few Ags that evening, including a students father who decided to take a leak inside the stadium but not the bathroom. Memories.bobinator said:
I was a college student in this town also, hell I even got arrested IN Reed Arena, so I know it can be annoying. I'm just saying it's not exclusive to A&M. It's how most college towns are.
Beat them charges like Rocky, Neeley Lewis is the MAN.......
The bolded part does show that you're fine trading freedom for comfort. We all do that to some extent but its surprising to me to see your naivete in thinking that police encounters are harmless occurrences. Look up the road to the dead couple from houston last fall who had crooked HPD narcotics officer doctor up a phony warrant and execute them for no reason.PWestAg18 said:expresswrittenconsent said:PWestAg18 said:
If you're driving between the hours of 11:00PM-6:00AM follow the road laws to a tee. They're looking to pull anyone and everyone over and check for a DUI. Yes, getting a possession charge slapped on you for a "wide right turn" certainly sucks, but the practice of going after every minor traffic violation may take the drunk/high driver off the road that otherwise would've hit you or someone you care about. That practice isn't unique to CSPD and I'm glad they do it.
You're glad that as a citizen if you choose to go grocery shopping or drive to work or head out on a trip, or go out to eat btwn 11 and 6 that police enforce the traffic laws differently from the other 17 hrs per day? Maybe we could just put a curfew in there for you. Your papers, comrade?
We had a girl killed on University just three months ago by a driver high out of his mind. Do you really think CSPD is gonna take the chance ignoring a "Wide Right Turn" late at night anymore? If you do something in a vehicle late at night that isn't 100% legal then you'll get pulled over. If you have nothing illegal to hide you'll get a traffic ticket or a warning. If the officer has any reason to believe you're drunk or high then you're in for a bad night. If that keeps innocent students from getting plowed over in a crosswalk on University by a local teenager high on a combination of Xanax and cocaine then yeah I'm totally cool with it comrade. Between work and grad school I'm out on the roads in BCS at some late hours. I go the speed limit, turn into the proper lanes, and signal when required. Not hard to understand you're in a college town and getting scrutinized harder after 11:00PM then you do at 11:00AM
Maybe all cars should have breathalyzers so that drunks could never drive! Then we could finally get some gun control passed! Neither of those would really inconvenience you or I all that much and think how much safer society would be and how much more crime the police could solve with no drunk driving or shootings!
If you commit a traffic violation and a cop sees it they can pull you over, notice I've never said in any of my posts that I think cops should be able to pull people over without reason. If you don't wanna deal with the police then make sure you do everything in your power to not break the law regardless of how petty the law is (turning into the wrong lane while turning right at 12:00 AM with presumably no traffic around).
If they decide to make up a mythical warrant and go after you then that's a totally different scenario, and at that point you're screwed regardless.
EDIT: done derailing with a conversation meant for the politics board, flame away if you wish
If they decide to make up a mythical warrant and go after you then that's a totally different scenario, and at that point you're screwed regardless.
EDIT: done derailing with a conversation meant for the politics board, flame away if you wish
Actually, for the record, the game I got thrown out of was not the game I got arrested at, though the two incidents are connected. Maybe that will be a story time for next offseason.
I know nothing about pot so asked my son...he said two grams is probably a class B misdemeanor.
He also opined that because of the strong odor, it is best to be honest with cops...they are a lot more likely to just confiscate the pot and not file charges if you don't make them do a search.
He also opined that because of the strong odor, it is best to be honest with cops...they are a lot more likely to just confiscate the pot and not file charges if you don't make them do a search.
bobinator said:
Actually, for the record, the game I got thrown out of was not the game I got arrested at, though the two incidents are connected. Maybe that will be a story time for next offseason.
How did you keep that a secret? Im just gonna imagine that you got in a brawl with like Robert Cessna
I absolutely 100% hate pot laws.
The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln.
I got funny looks from sleepy old Ags last year for standing and yelling at the Refs... the crowd was pretty dead during a mid year game last year, and mostly sitting. We *never* sat back in the day in Cameron. Haven't been back since...but will see me some BuzzBall this year in Reed.
I know that's not as exciting as we anticipate bobinator's story...but I'm sticking to it.
I know that's not as exciting as we anticipate bobinator's story...but I'm sticking to it.
Why did he think the cop would not search the car? Did he think his hiding place under one of the car panels was going to fool the cops?
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Actually, for the record, the game I got thrown out of was not the game I got arrested at, though the two incidents are connected. Maybe that will be a story time for next offseason.
That's BS. You have to tell us the stories now.
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TJ has got to understand that the sh*t that he may gotten away with before, will not work against Buzz.
This is a university suspension exactly what happened to Chandler, Trocha, and I'm forgetting another one.
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expresswrittenconsent said:The bolded part does show that you're fine trading freedom for comfort. We all do that to some extent but its surprising to me to see your naivete in thinking that police encounters are harmless occurrences. Look up the road to the dead couple from houston last fall who had crooked HPD narcotics officer doctor up a phony warrant and execute them for no reason.PWestAg18 said:expresswrittenconsent said:PWestAg18 said:
If you're driving between the hours of 11:00PM-6:00AM follow the road laws to a tee. They're looking to pull anyone and everyone over and check for a DUI. Yes, getting a possession charge slapped on you for a "wide right turn" certainly sucks, but the practice of going after every minor traffic violation may take the drunk/high driver off the road that otherwise would've hit you or someone you care about. That practice isn't unique to CSPD and I'm glad they do it.
You're glad that as a citizen if you choose to go grocery shopping or drive to work or head out on a trip, or go out to eat btwn 11 and 6 that police enforce the traffic laws differently from the other 17 hrs per day? Maybe we could just put a curfew in there for you. Your papers, comrade?
We had a girl killed on University just three months ago by a driver high out of his mind. Do you really think CSPD is gonna take the chance ignoring a "Wide Right Turn" late at night anymore? If you do something in a vehicle late at night that isn't 100% legal then you'll get pulled over. If you have nothing illegal to hide you'll get a traffic ticket or a warning. If the officer has any reason to believe you're drunk or high then you're in for a bad night. If that keeps innocent students from getting plowed over in a crosswalk on University by a local teenager high on a combination of Xanax and cocaine then yeah I'm totally cool with it comrade. Between work and grad school I'm out on the roads in BCS at some late hours. I go the speed limit, turn into the proper lanes, and signal when required. Not hard to understand you're in a college town and getting scrutinized harder after 11:00PM then you do at 11:00AM
Maybe all cars should have breathalyzers so that drunks could never drive! Then we could finally get some gun control passed! Neither of those would really inconvenience you or I all that much and think how much safer society would be and how much more crime the police could solve with no drunk driving or shootings!
One of the most asinine posts I've seen here, and that's a high bar to reach. If a policeman observes a traffic violation that could lead to a potential serious accident, that is his/her job to stop the driver, investigate, and determine the circumstances. If it was an innocent mistake, then they will advise the driver of the mistake and decide whether to ticket or provide a warning. If it was an unavoidable emergency, then help assist in resolving the emergency so the streets are safe. And finally, they must determine the capacity of the driver to continue driving given the circumstantial evidence. That includes intoxication of any sort because they are an immediate danger to the public on the roads. If they are in fact intoxicated, then they are arrested and removed from the road.
Intoxicated drivers kill more people in this country than just about any other cause of death. That's why the laws are such on the books, and the police enforce those laws.
Are there bad apples in law enforcement. Yes, a few just like there are in any occupation or any aspect of our lives. Just because there is an example of one bad cop doesn't mean all cops are out to get us, or in this case the CSPD out to get A&M students.
What is so hard to understand here?
Reese, Hogg, Caldwell, ...Hop said:GrayMatter said:
TJ has got to understand that the sh*t that he may gotten away with before, will not work against Buzz.
This is a university suspension exactly what happened to Chandler, Trocha, and I'm forgetting another one.
Rongagin71 said:
I know nothing about pot so asked my son...he said two grams is probably a class B misdemeanor.
He also opined that because of the strong odor, it is best to be honest with cops...they are a lot more likely to just confiscate the pot and not file charges if you don't make them do a search.
If this was Houston or Austin that is probably true but I would not assume that in CS.
And according to AAA, 16 to 24 year olds comprised 42% of the drivers killed in alcohol-related crashes. So yeah, maybe erratic driving around a college campus is something that should be closely monitored.Hop said:expresswrittenconsent said:The bolded part does show that you're fine trading freedom for comfort. We all do that to some extent but its surprising to me to see your naivete in thinking that police encounters are harmless occurrences. Look up the road to the dead couple from houston last fall who had crooked HPD narcotics officer doctor up a phony warrant and execute them for no reason.PWestAg18 said:expresswrittenconsent said:PWestAg18 said:
If you're driving between the hours of 11:00PM-6:00AM follow the road laws to a tee. They're looking to pull anyone and everyone over and check for a DUI. Yes, getting a possession charge slapped on you for a "wide right turn" certainly sucks, but the practice of going after every minor traffic violation may take the drunk/high driver off the road that otherwise would've hit you or someone you care about. That practice isn't unique to CSPD and I'm glad they do it.
You're glad that as a citizen if you choose to go grocery shopping or drive to work or head out on a trip, or go out to eat btwn 11 and 6 that police enforce the traffic laws differently from the other 17 hrs per day? Maybe we could just put a curfew in there for you. Your papers, comrade?
We had a girl killed on University just three months ago by a driver high out of his mind. Do you really think CSPD is gonna take the chance ignoring a "Wide Right Turn" late at night anymore? If you do something in a vehicle late at night that isn't 100% legal then you'll get pulled over. If you have nothing illegal to hide you'll get a traffic ticket or a warning. If the officer has any reason to believe you're drunk or high then you're in for a bad night. If that keeps innocent students from getting plowed over in a crosswalk on University by a local teenager high on a combination of Xanax and cocaine then yeah I'm totally cool with it comrade. Between work and grad school I'm out on the roads in BCS at some late hours. I go the speed limit, turn into the proper lanes, and signal when required. Not hard to understand you're in a college town and getting scrutinized harder after 11:00PM then you do at 11:00AM
Maybe all cars should have breathalyzers so that drunks could never drive! Then we could finally get some gun control passed! Neither of those would really inconvenience you or I all that much and think how much safer society would be and how much more crime the police could solve with no drunk driving or shootings!
One of the most asinine posts I've seen here, and that's a high bar to reach. If a policeman observes a traffic violation that could lead to a potential serious accident, that is his/her job to stop the driver, investigate, and determine the circumstances. If it was an innocent mistake, then they will advise the driver of the mistake and decide whether to ticket or provide a warning. If it was an unavoidable emergency, then help assist in resolving the emergency so the streets are safe. And finally, they must determine the capacity of the driver to continue driving given the circumstantial evidence. That includes intoxication of any sort because they are an immediate danger to the public on the roads. If they are in fact intoxicated, then they are arrested and removed from the road.
Intoxicated drivers kill more people in this country than just about any other cause of death. That's why the laws are such on the books, and the police enforce those laws.
Are there bad apples in law enforcement. Yes, a few just like there are in any occupation or any aspect of our lives. Just because there is an example of one bad cop doesn't mean all cops are out to get us, or in this case the CSPD out to get A&M students.
What is so hard to understand here?
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Reese, Hogg, Caldwell, ...
Didn't Gilder get a game too, or was that for some other reason?
Or maybe...and stick with me here...students shouldn't violate the law.Swagag8 said:
CSPD is worthless. Might as well tell your kids not to come to A&M because all they do is harass kids and arrest students for weed and alcohol. Absolutely embarrassing department
Gig 'Em
Hop said:expresswrittenconsent said:The bolded part does show that you're fine trading freedom for comfort. We all do that to some extent but its surprising to me to see your naivete in thinking that police encounters are harmless occurrences. Look up the road to the dead couple from houston last fall who had crooked HPD narcotics officer doctor up a phony warrant and execute them for no reason.PWestAg18 said:expresswrittenconsent said:PWestAg18 said:
If you're driving between the hours of 11:00PM-6:00AM follow the road laws to a tee. They're looking to pull anyone and everyone over and check for a DUI. Yes, getting a possession charge slapped on you for a "wide right turn" certainly sucks, but the practice of going after every minor traffic violation may take the drunk/high driver off the road that otherwise would've hit you or someone you care about. That practice isn't unique to CSPD and I'm glad they do it.
You're glad that as a citizen if you choose to go grocery shopping or drive to work or head out on a trip, or go out to eat btwn 11 and 6 that police enforce the traffic laws differently from the other 17 hrs per day? Maybe we could just put a curfew in there for you. Your papers, comrade?
We had a girl killed on University just three months ago by a driver high out of his mind. Do you really think CSPD is gonna take the chance ignoring a "Wide Right Turn" late at night anymore? If you do something in a vehicle late at night that isn't 100% legal then you'll get pulled over. If you have nothing illegal to hide you'll get a traffic ticket or a warning. If the officer has any reason to believe you're drunk or high then you're in for a bad night. If that keeps innocent students from getting plowed over in a crosswalk on University by a local teenager high on a combination of Xanax and cocaine then yeah I'm totally cool with it comrade. Between work and grad school I'm out on the roads in BCS at some late hours. I go the speed limit, turn into the proper lanes, and signal when required. Not hard to understand you're in a college town and getting scrutinized harder after 11:00PM then you do at 11:00AM
Maybe all cars should have breathalyzers so that drunks could never drive! Then we could finally get some gun control passed! Neither of those would really inconvenience you or I all that much and think how much safer society would be and how much more crime the police could solve with no drunk driving or shootings!
One of the most asinine posts I've seen here, and that's a high bar to reach. If a policeman observes a traffic violation that could lead to a potential serious accident, that is his/her job to stop the driver, investigate, and determine the circumstances. If it was an innocent mistake, then they will advise the driver of the mistake and decide whether to ticket or provide a warning. If it was an unavoidable emergency, then help assist in resolving the emergency so the streets are safe. And finally, they must determine the capacity of the driver to continue driving given the circumstantial evidence. That includes intoxication of any sort because they are an immediate danger to the public on the roads. If they are in fact intoxicated, then they are arrested and removed from the road.
Intoxicated drivers kill more people in this country than just about any other cause of death. That's why the laws are such on the books, and the police enforce those laws.
Are there bad apples in law enforcement. Yes, a few just like there are in any occupation or any aspect of our lives. Just because there is an example of one bad cop doesn't mean all cops are out to get us, or in this case the CSPD out to get A&M students.
What is so hard to understand here?
How many years have you spent in law enforcement? How many years has an immediate family member (parent, sibling, spouse) been in law enforcement? Your claim that a police officer is duty bound (and that the entire point of their job) to fully investigate to conclusion all traffic violations they observe is pretty damn asinine itself (note, you added the ridiculous part about 'could lead to serious accident' - that wasnt in the original discussion, and that wasnt in the arrest notes about a traffic stop for a wide right turn - btw, a low speed wide turn isnt a future indicator of a 'serious accident', it might be reason to continue following and a 2nd line crossing could then justify a stop though).
Regardless, Starks is an idiot for having weed in the car. That is stoner 101.
One of the most idiotic statements ever made on here and there have been some doozies. Congratulations.Swagag8 said:
CSPD is worthless. Might as well tell your kids not to come to A&M because all they do is harass kids and arrest students for weed and alcohol. Absolutely embarrassing department
I know NOTHING!!!!
A recent graduate...class of 2018 iirc...rather stupidly attempted to use a fake ID and got caught. Her dadwho works with a bankchose to leave her rather than arranging bail. Apparently her mother and other siblings conspired to soften the lesson the dad chose to impose.
Her sibling told me the story. I have my own I won't share both from college days and a rather surprising one regarding using minor consumption of alcohol to press an assault charge against one of my kids who was also a minor at the time.
I think enforcement of laws should be done thoughtfully to encourage compliance not to make citizens enemies of the state. I'll add: presumption of innocence requires this.
With that said: TJ knows what he did and why. I suspect every single one of us was tempted by friends to consume mind-altering substances either illegally or to excess (therefore at least unwisely.)
I really think there should be some empathy based on that. Just my opinion of course.
Her sibling told me the story. I have my own I won't share both from college days and a rather surprising one regarding using minor consumption of alcohol to press an assault charge against one of my kids who was also a minor at the time.
I think enforcement of laws should be done thoughtfully to encourage compliance not to make citizens enemies of the state. I'll add: presumption of innocence requires this.
With that said: TJ knows what he did and why. I suspect every single one of us was tempted by friends to consume mind-altering substances either illegally or to excess (therefore at least unwisely.)
I really think there should be some empathy based on that. Just my opinion of course.
Why do people always blame the police? They are only doing their job.
If you do not like a law work to change it.
If you do not like a law work to change it.
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A recent graduate...class of 2018 iirc...rather stupidly attempted to use a fake ID and got caught. Her dadwho works with a bankchose to leave her rather than arranging bail. Apparently her mother and other siblings conspired to soften the lesson the dad chose to impose.
Her sibling told me the story. I have my own I won't share both from college days and a rather surprising one regarding using minor consumption of alcohol to press an assault charge against one of my kids who was also a minor at the time.
I think enforcement of laws should be done thoughtfully to encourage compliance not to make citizens enemies of the state. I'll add: presumption of innocence requires this.
With that said: TJ knows what he did and why. I suspect every single one of us was tempted by friends to consume mind-altering substances either illegally or to excess (therefore at least unwisely.)
I really think there should be some empathy based on that. Just my opinion of course.
Every single line of this post made my brain hurt.
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expresswrittenconsent said:Hop said:expresswrittenconsent said:The bolded part does show that you're fine trading freedom for comfort. We all do that to some extent but its surprising to me to see your naivete in thinking that police encounters are harmless occurrences. Look up the road to the dead couple from houston last fall who had crooked HPD narcotics officer doctor up a phony warrant and execute them for no reason.PWestAg18 said:expresswrittenconsent said:PWestAg18 said:
If you're driving between the hours of 11:00PM-6:00AM follow the road laws to a tee. They're looking to pull anyone and everyone over and check for a DUI. Yes, getting a possession charge slapped on you for a "wide right turn" certainly sucks, but the practice of going after every minor traffic violation may take the drunk/high driver off the road that otherwise would've hit you or someone you care about. That practice isn't unique to CSPD and I'm glad they do it.
You're glad that as a citizen if you choose to go grocery shopping or drive to work or head out on a trip, or go out to eat btwn 11 and 6 that police enforce the traffic laws differently from the other 17 hrs per day? Maybe we could just put a curfew in there for you. Your papers, comrade?
We had a girl killed on University just three months ago by a driver high out of his mind. Do you really think CSPD is gonna take the chance ignoring a "Wide Right Turn" late at night anymore? If you do something in a vehicle late at night that isn't 100% legal then you'll get pulled over. If you have nothing illegal to hide you'll get a traffic ticket or a warning. If the officer has any reason to believe you're drunk or high then you're in for a bad night. If that keeps innocent students from getting plowed over in a crosswalk on University by a local teenager high on a combination of Xanax and cocaine then yeah I'm totally cool with it comrade. Between work and grad school I'm out on the roads in BCS at some late hours. I go the speed limit, turn into the proper lanes, and signal when required. Not hard to understand you're in a college town and getting scrutinized harder after 11:00PM then you do at 11:00AM
Maybe all cars should have breathalyzers so that drunks could never drive! Then we could finally get some gun control passed! Neither of those would really inconvenience you or I all that much and think how much safer society would be and how much more crime the police could solve with no drunk driving or shootings!
One of the most asinine posts I've seen here, and that's a high bar to reach. If a policeman observes a traffic violation that could lead to a potential serious accident, that is his/her job to stop the driver, investigate, and determine the circumstances. If it was an innocent mistake, then they will advise the driver of the mistake and decide whether to ticket or provide a warning. If it was an unavoidable emergency, then help assist in resolving the emergency so the streets are safe. And finally, they must determine the capacity of the driver to continue driving given the circumstantial evidence. That includes intoxication of any sort because they are an immediate danger to the public on the roads. If they are in fact intoxicated, then they are arrested and removed from the road.
Intoxicated drivers kill more people in this country than just about any other cause of death. That's why the laws are such on the books, and the police enforce those laws.
Are there bad apples in law enforcement. Yes, a few just like there are in any occupation or any aspect of our lives. Just because there is an example of one bad cop doesn't mean all cops are out to get us, or in this case the CSPD out to get A&M students.
What is so hard to understand here?
How many years have you spent in law enforcement? How many years has an immediate family member (parent, sibling, spouse) been in law enforcement? Your claim that a police officer is duty bound (and that the entire point of their job) to fully investigate to conclusion all traffic violations they observe is pretty damn asinine itself (note, you added the ridiculous part about 'could lead to serious accident' - that wasnt in the original discussion, and that wasnt in the arrest notes about a traffic stop for a wide right turn - btw, a low speed wide turn isnt a future indicator of a 'serious accident', it might be reason to continue following and a 2nd line crossing could then justify a stop though).
Regardless, Starks is an idiot for having weed in the car. That is stoner 101.
Anytime a moving multi-ton vehicle is traveling outside its lane, there is potential for a serious accident. That is the very essence of why it is considered a violation. Is there any other reason why a moving violation would be illegal unless it posed a potential threat of an accident? The fact that you are arguing against that is strange. Even stranger is your assertion that it is not an officer's job to investigate (observing their current state of mind) the reason for a driver's traffic violation? That IS their job by the very motto "protect and serve". If an officer sees a violation, you better believe it's his/her job to analyze the situation to see if the driver remains a danger to the public if allowed to continue driving.
If (as you suggest) an officer's job isn't to investigate situations where public safety could be in doubt, then what do you want officers to do?
That's nice. Duck off.Tobias Funke said:greg.w.h said:
A recent graduate...class of 2018 iirc...rather stupidly attempted to use a fake ID and got caught. Her dadwho works with a bankchose to leave her rather than arranging bail. Apparently her mother and other siblings conspired to soften the lesson the dad chose to impose.
Her sibling told me the story. I have my own I won't share both from college days and a rather surprising one regarding using minor consumption of alcohol to press an assault charge against one of my kids who was also a minor at the time.
I think enforcement of laws should be done thoughtfully to encourage compliance not to make citizens enemies of the state. I'll add: presumption of innocence requires this.
With that said: TJ knows what he did and why. I suspect every single one of us was tempted by friends to consume mind-altering substances either illegally or to excess (therefore at least unwisely.)
I really think there should be some empathy based on that. Just my opinion of course.
Every single line of this post made my brain hurt.
It's not the pot or being stopped by the cop that bothers me; it's the fact that he should know better!
In one single act, he made himself more important than the team.
It's not like this is an isolated incident with this team! It's a shame; he's throwing it away for 2 oz of pot.
You play stupid games; you win stupid prizes.
In one single act, he made himself more important than the team.
It's not like this is an isolated incident with this team! It's a shame; he's throwing it away for 2 oz of pot.
You play stupid games; you win stupid prizes.
Hopefully 'it was the cop's fault, not Starks' isn't the kind of garbage hot-take that Starks or any college athlete is listening to. Hopefully any poster on this thread expressing that kind of opinion is the type of person who is kept far away from getting in the head of folks like Starks. Cause, if so, then Definitely kiss their career goodbye.
Quack
Excellent!Tobias Funke said:
Quack
EliteZags said:
legal in 11 states, suspend him til healthy
My high school daughter gave up soda for cross country season. It's a small thing the team does together. Yet, TJ can't even give up weed. Less discipline and respect for his teammates than a freshman HS girl.
If I were a 2-guard and had one last chance to showcase my talents, I doubt I'd stick around if I had to depend on Starks to make me look good. Just sayin'
I suspect...pure speculation here...it boils down to whether Buzz and he can rebuild trust. I won't say TJ intentionally got himself suspended. But his choice making given his previous coach's replacement isn't friendly to the current coach and ignores what the current coach can do to help him.94chem said:
If I were a 2-guard and had one last chance to showcase my talents, I doubt I'd stick around if I had to depend on Starks to make me look good. Just sayin'
I don't know why-and won't speculate-TJ made that choice. And maybe it's a pretty simple calculus that caused it and it isn't complicated at all. But if I wanted out with a release from my scholarship, I would do what he did.
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