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I think it is important to note that current staffers liked this tweet.
The worst thing about this is every person in College Station has most likely made an illegal right turn in the past week like TJ. Saying that everyone of us should have been pulled over to check if we are all safe on the road is asinine too. To be frank with you it's something that the police use here to do exactly what they did with TJ. They pull students over for minor traffic violations hoping that their car will smell and they can get probable cause for search. As much as we don't want to believe it, it's the sad truth for smaller towns and College Station in particular.
Luckily CAF has been severely restricted and local police departments can't use it as willy nilly to fund their departments as they used to. But being in cahoots with towing companies for a kickback to the department is arguably just as bad and the Mckinney Police do that with the blessing of the City I'm sure...
Taxes are expensive. But vice taxes like this are politically friendly. Are we surprised?
And how else does the typical college student actually pay taxes other than tuition (which arguably is discounted heavily) and overpriced room and board (compared to private offerings.)
Taxes are expensive. But vice taxes like this are politically friendly. Are we surprised?
And how else does the typical college student actually pay taxes other than tuition (which arguably is discounted heavily) and overpriced room and board (compared to private offerings.)
At least one of the girls drank soda...94chem said:EliteZags said:
legal in 11 states, suspend him til healthy
My high school daughter gave up soda for cross country season. It's a small thing the team does together. Yet, TJ can't even give up weed. Less discipline and respect for his teammates than a freshman HS girl.
JJxvi said:At least one of the girls drank soda...94chem said:EliteZags said:
legal in 11 states, suspend him til healthy
My high school daughter gave up soda for cross country season. It's a small thing the team does together. Yet, TJ can't even give up weed. Less discipline and respect for his teammates than a freshman HS girl.
Not sure how many girls there are on a cross country team but statistically it's likely that several members of the team smoked weed during the season too.
I didnt want to give him the vapors or anything.Aggie1205 said:JJxvi said:At least one of the girls drank soda...94chem said:EliteZags said:
legal in 11 states, suspend him til healthy
My high school daughter gave up soda for cross country season. It's a small thing the team does together. Yet, TJ can't even give up weed. Less discipline and respect for his teammates than a freshman HS girl.
Not sure how many girls there are on a cross country team but statistically it's likely that several members of the team smoked weed during the season too.
JJxvi said:I didnt want to give him the vapors or anything.Aggie1205 said:JJxvi said:At least one of the girls drank soda...94chem said:EliteZags said:
legal in 11 states, suspend him til healthy
My high school daughter gave up soda for cross country season. It's a small thing the team does together. Yet, TJ can't even give up weed. Less discipline and respect for his teammates than a freshman HS girl.
Not sure how many girls there are on a cross country team but statistically it's likely that several members of the team smoked weed during the season too.
Doesn't matter where I fart. TJ Starks is still suspended, and our team deals with this crap every year. In the real world, if you can't pee clean, you don't get to keep your job. I'm headed off to a brewery now. Legal, after hours, and nobody is depending on me to not do it. See the difference?
You have the discipline of a HS girl.
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You have the discipline of a HS girl.
I sure don't run as fast as one.
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The worst thing about this is every person in College Station has most likely made an illegal right turn in the past week like TJ. Saying that everyone of us should have been pulled over to check if we are all safe on the road is asinine too. To be frank with you it's something that the police use here to do exactly what they did with TJ. They pull students over for minor traffic violations hoping that their car will smell and they can get probable cause for search. As much as we don't want to believe it, it's the sad truth for smaller towns and College Station in particular.
You have NO IDEA the reasons he was pulled over because you have no idea about the specifics of what happened. A wide right turn could mean a thousand things. He could have hit the median. He may have swerved back erratically. He may have made his turn at a high rate of speed, or a very low rate of speed. He may have had his head stuck out the window and yelling at some people....or maybe he made a slightly wide turn at a safe speed and the cop profiled him. I don't know, and you don't either. Unless you have specific information about this incident that there was improper "profiling" as you suggest, then you are as guilty of being prejudiced as the cops you are accusing of being prejudiced.
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Quoting this post only to point out that there is no "intent to distribute" section in Texas marijuana laws. You can either possess or deliver only. There is an intent to deliver statute for hard drugs and pills, however.johnnyblaze36 said:
He had a whopping two grams! Give him a ticket like they do in other Texas cities and let him go.
edit: I missed the part about "three baggies". That could actually be considered intent to distribute.
https://www.kbtx.com/content/news/AM-suspends-basketball-player-following-arrest-564933872.htmlQuote:
COLLEGE STATION, Tex. (KBTX)- Texas A&M University basketball player TJ Starks has been suspended indefinitely following a drug arrest by College Station police.
The team announced the suspension Thursday following the 21-year-old's arrest.
According to a probable cause report, Tahjon Komar Starks was stopped around midnight by an officer after he made an illegal wide right turn at Holleman Drive and Wellborn Road.
Police said they could smell the odor of marijuana coming from the vehicle. When officers asked Starks if there was marijuana in the vehicle, he denied it.
Police searched the vehicle and found three baggies of marijuana weighing a total of two grams.
Starks was booked into the Brazos County Detention Center and was released on a $2,000 bond.
And, yes, 2 grams is bull***** Basically, they found 3 empty baggies, and scraped enough out of them to make 2 grams.
And, yes, yes, "illegal wide right turn" is the kind of crap cops make up to pull people over so they can search them. I was just hired this week on one of those. Chances are pretty good that the charges get dropped in my case. Hopefully, Starks hires the right lawyer and his gets dumped, too. But, Brazos County DA has a reputation...not a good one.
Not exactly a choice of soda vs. milkJJxvi said:At least one of the girls drank soda...94chem said:EliteZags said:
legal in 11 states, suspend him til healthy
My high school daughter gave up soda for cross country season. It's a small thing the team does together. Yet, TJ can't even give up weed. Less discipline and respect for his teammates than a freshman HS girl.
I'd rather have someone taking weed for pain than (legal) opioids which are killing at a pandemic rate.
The only reason weed is a Schedule I drug is because of racism. Enough is enough.
Sounds like a DWB.8T2 said:Quoting this post only to point out that there is no "intent to distribute" section in Texas marijuana laws. You can either possess or deliver only. There is an intent to deliver statute for hard drugs and pills, however.johnnyblaze36 said:
He had a whopping two grams! Give him a ticket like they do in other Texas cities and let him go.
edit: I missed the part about "three baggies". That could actually be considered intent to distribute.
https://www.kbtx.com/content/news/AM-suspends-basketball-player-following-arrest-564933872.htmlQuote:
COLLEGE STATION, Tex. (KBTX)- Texas A&M University basketball player TJ Starks has been suspended indefinitely following a drug arrest by College Station police.
The team announced the suspension Thursday following the 21-year-old's arrest.
According to a probable cause report, Tahjon Komar Starks was stopped around midnight by an officer after he made an illegal wide right turn at Holleman Drive and Wellborn Road.
Police said they could smell the odor of marijuana coming from the vehicle. When officers asked Starks if there was marijuana in the vehicle, he denied it.
Police searched the vehicle and found three baggies of marijuana weighing a total of two grams.
Starks was booked into the Brazos County Detention Center and was released on a $2,000 bond.
And, yes, 2 grams is bull***** Basically, they found 3 empty baggies, and scraped enough out of them to make 2 grams.
And, yes, yes, "illegal wide right turn" is the kind of crap cops make up to pull people over so they can search them. I was just hired this week on one of those. Chances are pretty good that the charges get dropped in my case. Hopefully, Starks hires the right lawyer and his gets dumped, too. But, Brazos County DA has a reputation...not a good one.
FWIW. PSA. The police have no legal right to search a vehicle without cause - 4th Amendment. A wide turn is not one of them. They do have the right to conduct a sobriety text and blood test for alcohol.
He's a grown man. Time to grow up and start to think about others instead of himself.
Agree, but very easy to get probable cause because the cop 'smells marijuana'. They will always tip the scales in their favor.
This would be probable cause.
Police claim that they smelled the odor of burnt marijuana coming from the car. This gives them probable cause to search for marijuana.
This case rides on whether the "wide turn" justified the stop. I don't practice in Brazos County, so I don't know if their cops have dashboard video cameras, but if they do, his lawyer will be able to see if it is legit or not.
But, yeah, I'd put my money on DWB.
This case rides on whether the "wide turn" justified the stop. I don't practice in Brazos County, so I don't know if their cops have dashboard video cameras, but if they do, his lawyer will be able to see if it is legit or not.
But, yeah, I'd put my money on DWB.
We blaming the cops for this knucklehead?
Isn't that the way society is now? To blame someone else and not take responsibility?
I'm not gonna keep going down a rabbit hole here but I was never suggesting the cop was "profiling" TJ. It's not an unknown tactic that Police will pull people over for bogus small "infractions" and hope they smell weed or get probable cause. Especially in a College town where the majority of students smoke pot or have another illegal vice. Not racist, just slimey, petty police work. Hope he learns and comes back better!
Son also has the story of how, when he was driving a souped up old Z car some years ago, that the cops stopped him and asked to do a search. Son knew that despite the pot smell, he had no drugs on board...nevertheless he denied the cops request which resulted in waiting an hour for the cops to get legal permission to search followed by another half hour of searching, culminating in some rather frustrated cops.Rongagin71 said:
I know nothing about pot so asked my son...he said two grams is probably a class B misdemeanor.
He also opined that because of the strong odor, it is best to be honest with cops...they are a lot more likely to just confiscate the pot and not file charges if you don't make them do a search.
expresswrittenconsent said:Hop said:expresswrittenconsent said:The bolded part does show that you're fine trading freedom for comfort. We all do that to some extent but its surprising to me to see your naivete in thinking that police encounters are harmless occurrences. Look up the road to the dead couple from houston last fall who had crooked HPD narcotics officer doctor up a phony warrant and execute them for no reason.PWestAg18 said:expresswrittenconsent said:PWestAg18 said:
If you're driving between the hours of 11:00PM-6:00AM follow the road laws to a tee. They're looking to pull anyone and everyone over and check for a DUI. Yes, getting a possession charge slapped on you for a "wide right turn" certainly sucks, but the practice of going after every minor traffic violation may take the drunk/high driver off the road that otherwise would've hit you or someone you care about. That practice isn't unique to CSPD and I'm glad they do it.
You're glad that as a citizen if you choose to go grocery shopping or drive to work or head out on a trip, or go out to eat btwn 11 and 6 that police enforce the traffic laws differently from the other 17 hrs per day? Maybe we could just put a curfew in there for you. Your papers, comrade?
We had a girl killed on University just three months ago by a driver high out of his mind. Do you really think CSPD is gonna take the chance ignoring a "Wide Right Turn" late at night anymore? If you do something in a vehicle late at night that isn't 100% legal then you'll get pulled over. If you have nothing illegal to hide you'll get a traffic ticket or a warning. If the officer has any reason to believe you're drunk or high then you're in for a bad night. If that keeps innocent students from getting plowed over in a crosswalk on University by a local teenager high on a combination of Xanax and cocaine then yeah I'm totally cool with it comrade. Between work and grad school I'm out on the roads in BCS at some late hours. I go the speed limit, turn into the proper lanes, and signal when required. Not hard to understand you're in a college town and getting scrutinized harder after 11:00PM then you do at 11:00AM
Maybe all cars should have breathalyzers so that drunks could never drive! Then we could finally get some gun control passed! Neither of those would really inconvenience you or I all that much and think how much safer society would be and how much more crime the police could solve with no drunk driving or shootings!
One of the most asinine posts I've seen here, and that's a high bar to reach. If a policeman observes a traffic violation that could lead to a potential serious accident, that is his/her job to stop the driver, investigate, and determine the circumstances. If it was an innocent mistake, then they will advise the driver of the mistake and decide whether to ticket or provide a warning. If it was an unavoidable emergency, then help assist in resolving the emergency so the streets are safe. And finally, they must determine the capacity of the driver to continue driving given the circumstantial evidence. That includes intoxication of any sort because they are an immediate danger to the public on the roads. If they are in fact intoxicated, then they are arrested and removed from the road.
Intoxicated drivers kill more people in this country than just about any other cause of death. That's why the laws are such on the books, and the police enforce those laws.
Are there bad apples in law enforcement. Yes, a few just like there are in any occupation or any aspect of our lives. Just because there is an example of one bad cop doesn't mean all cops are out to get us, or in this case the CSPD out to get A&M students.
What is so hard to understand here?
How many years have you spent in law enforcement? How many years has an immediate family member (parent, sibling, spouse) been in law enforcement? Your claim that a police officer is duty bound (and that the entire point of their job) to fully investigate to conclusion all traffic violations they observe is pretty damn asinine itself (note, you added the ridiculous part about 'could lead to serious accident' - that wasnt in the original discussion, and that wasnt in the arrest notes about a traffic stop for a wide right turn - btw, a low speed wide turn isnt a future indicator of a 'serious accident', it might be reason to continue following and a 2nd line crossing could then justify a stop though).
Regardless, Starks is an idiot for having weed in the car. That is stoner 101.
I hope you're not in charge of anything important
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Did you mean to reply to a different thread? Perhaps one on another planet?greg.w.h said:
A recent graduate...class of 2018 iirc...rather stupidly attempted to use a fake ID and got caught. Her dadwho works with a bankchose to leave her rather than arranging bail. Apparently her mother and other siblings conspired to soften the lesson the dad chose to impose.
Her sibling told me the story. I have my own I won't share both from college days and a rather surprising one regarding using minor consumption of alcohol to press an assault charge against one of my kids who was also a minor at the time.
I think enforcement of laws should be done thoughtfully to encourage compliance not to make citizens enemies of the state. I'll add: presumption of innocence requires this.
With that said: TJ knows what he did and why. I suspect every single one of us was tempted by friends to consume mind-altering substances either illegally or to excess (therefore at least unwisely.)
I really think there should be some empathy based on that. Just my opinion of course.
That tweet doesn't read like he has any remorse for screwing his teammates over and jeopardizing his career.
Maybe you are looking at other tweets and commenting on the whole array, but even an old fart like me knows a single tweet has to be kept short.Method Man said:
That tweet doesn't read like he has any remorse for screwing his teammates over and jeopardizing his career.
Rongagin71 said:Maybe you are looking at other tweets and commenting on the whole array, but even an old fart like me knows a single tweet has to be kept short.Method Man said:
That tweet doesn't read like he has any remorse for screwing his teammates over and jeopardizing his career.
Seems legit
Nope.Tango_Mike said:Did you mean to reply to a different thread? Perhaps one on another planet?greg.w.h said:
A recent graduate...class of 2018 iirc...rather stupidly attempted to use a fake ID and got caught. Her dadwho works with a bankchose to leave her rather than arranging bail. Apparently her mother and other siblings conspired to soften the lesson the dad chose to impose.
Her sibling told me the story. I have my own I won't share both from college days and a rather surprising one regarding using minor consumption of alcohol to press an assault charge against one of my kids who was also a minor at the time.
I think enforcement of laws should be done thoughtfully to encourage compliance not to make citizens enemies of the state. I'll add: presumption of innocence requires this.
With that said: TJ knows what he did and why. I suspect every single one of us was tempted by friends to consume mind-altering substances either illegally or to excess (therefore at least unwisely.)
I really think there should be some empathy based on that. Just my opinion of course.
"Hey look I made a mistake but you all make mistakes! I'll try tomorrow to be good."Rongagin71 said:Maybe you are looking at other tweets and commenting on the whole array, but even an old fart like me knows a single tweet has to be kept short.Method Man said:
That tweet doesn't read like he has any remorse for screwing his teammates over and jeopardizing his career.
I don't know if it matters, but that quote used by Starks in the tweet has been circulating on social media for awhile now. Supposed to be inspirational I guess.Method Man said:"Hey look I made a mistake but you all make mistakes! I'll try tomorrow to be good."Rongagin71 said:Maybe you are looking at other tweets and commenting on the whole array, but even an old fart like me knows a single tweet has to be kept short.Method Man said:
That tweet doesn't read like he has any remorse for screwing his teammates over and jeopardizing his career.
What's he up to tonight?
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