Northern Iowa is a good basketball school. No shame in losing to them. Only problem was being down so big.

Glad this board is finally waking up to what I said weeks ago.

Thanks.

So the coach is calling out character? Classy.

In the interview, did BK was praise the character of Collins or did he single out Starks for poor character? Or both?

If he's praising the character of Collins, that's not a problem.

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It is entirely appropriate to have fire/retain discussion and decision made after the season. Yes, at that point it is appropriate to account for not only this season but the generally lackluster seasons that preceded it.

We are two games into SEC play now though. This season and this team stands on its own and needs to play out. Nobody is getting fired this week. Going into Bama, this Aggie team had absolutely earned a 5 ranking nationally. We are performing poorly now with multiple starters out. Let's get them back and play the rest of the schedule.

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Eh. It's a message forum. People are going to discuss things as they happen and what potentially might happen based on what they've been seeing.

There were a half-dozen threads on if we would be a 1/2 seed in Dallas, if any team had won at both Rupp and the Phog in one season, etc, etc...

Discussion is discussion, and it's going to trend like the team is trending.

Starks probably played into BK's issues last night. I think he took 3 shots in a row during his first few minutes.

I hate to go after a coach mid season but I'm frustrated with the direction of this team right now. Point to the man leading this show. He is having some severe issues with some of these kids buying in to his plan. I can understand that happening in August but not January.

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I hate to go after a coach mid season but I'm frustrated with the direction of this team right now. Point to the man leading this show. He is having some severe issues with some of these kids buying in to his plan. I can understand that happening in August but not January.

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Same story as last year at this time.

Hogg can't fix things against LSU by himself. Hopefully, Gilder, Wilson are back soon.

Starks was trying to attack the rim and then got benched. Don't blame him for being upset.

Not going to judge BK on non-transparent discipline. Don't like the way he always finds reasons to not win. Think he needs to be fired and immediately is fine.

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Starks was trying to attack the rim and then got benched. Don't blame him for being upset.

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I mean, thats not what happened.

It's a tough job to manage egos while getting everyone on the team to buy-in. It's part of the reason why these coaches make millions of dollars. If you consistently can't manage it, you shouldn't be at this level of the profession.

The key for a leader is "how do you get these guys to want to do what you want them to do?" It's not easy, and it takes a certain level of charisma.

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I hate to go after a coach mid season but I'm frustrated with the direction of this team right now. Point to the man leading this show. He is having some severe issues with some of these kids buying in to his plan. I can understand that happening in August but not January.

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Same thing happens every year. It's remarkable how we hsomehow ave all these problem children but Kennedy continues to excel come tournament team. Am I right?

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Yeah, I don't know how anyone could have watched what Starks did last night and think "yep, this guy deserves to be on the floor."

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Last night's half court offense was such an abortion I couldn't tell the difference.

Bob, ur right we don't know, but my thought was that the youngsters were told they needed to step up and Starks might have tried too hard. I don't think it's selfishness as Hop professes. But Kennedy pulled the trigger too quick - Starks played 4 minutes total.

He made a nice layup, missed another on a good drive and had a 3 partially blocked (And I might be wrong but the shot clock could've been winding down when he got the ball).

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Bob, ur right we don't know, but my thought was that the youngsters were told they needed to step up and Starks might have tried too hard. I don't think it's selfishness as Hop professes. But Kennedy pulled the trigger too quick - Starks played 4 minutes total.

He made a nice layup, missed another on a good drive and had a 3 partially blocked (And I might be wrong but the shot clock could've been winding down when he got the ball).

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It was winding down but there were still about six seconds left.

I think the fact that Kennedy played Collins so much, and didn't play Starks, is a pretty good indicator that Starks did something Kennedy said not to do or didn't do something that he said to do. He's shown this season that he doesn't just want to play Collins for the hell of it.

Again, there's A LOT to criticize Kennedy about, but I just don't think we know enough about this situation.

Maybe not, but if we are back to counting on Collins for major minutes, this season will end up a lot like the last one.

Is that what you think my post said?

I coach youth sports. I tell my kids all the time that we represent beyond the game. I'd rather lose playing the right way with dignity and respect than win at all cost. If Starks has attitude, he would never set foot on the court until he decides he's there for the team. Most people will say they agree with this, but when it comes down to it, they will flip when they see other teams always win. Hogg show extreme selfishness at times shooting contested 3's when Davis is sealed off under the goal. That being said, I don't always understand the logic in the BK offense or defense. Sometimes we look like we go through a set of progressions ( maybe inside-out) and other times it looks like everyone is on the perimeter and we just pass the ball along the outside till the clock is running out and we force whatever we can. It's hard to watch when you have so much talent. The Arizona game; Tyler Davis went 7 for 9. They didn't double down on him, but we didn't take advantage of him shooting 78% in the paint. Instead, he only got 9 touches. I don't understand that. Having said that, Florida did go in with the strategy of clogging the lane, but we have to learn to create with the guards instead of everyone deciding it's their night to "get theirs". It looks like college is shifting to a more "NBA" type of play with either a fast break with a dunk, or just pull up a 3. The main reason why I love college basketball is most successful teams win because they're the most fundamentally sound team; not always the most talented individuals. For this to happen, you have to play unselfishly and have good chemistry with the team. I have yet to see this from the Aggies. I wish them the best of luck.

Good to know the same old Kennedy issues are still around. How many transfers has he racked up now?

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Bob, ur right we don't know, but my thought was that the youngsters were told they needed to step up and Starks might have tried too hard. I don't think it's selfishness as Hop infers. But Kennedy pulled the trigger too quick - Starks played 4 minutes total.

He made a nice layup, missed another on a good drive and had a 3 partially blocked (And I might be wrong but the shot clock could've been winding down when he got the ball).

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I said Starks was selfish? I think I said he wasn't following the coach's instructions and was benched.

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Was it just one game? Do we know when Gilder and Wilson will be back?

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He made a nice layup, missed another on a good drive and had a 3 partially blocked (And I might be wrong but the shot clock could've been winding down when he got the ball).

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There could be more than just his performance on the floor. If he pouted and wasn't engaged in the game after he was taken out, why would BK put him back in?