Thon Maker declaring for the draft

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All jokes aside, glad to finally get a chance to see him play
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And props to him and his agents/handlers for playing the situation perfectly
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The cynic in me wonders if the age thing was thrown out there by some team just as some smoke. You just can't seem to trust what teams are saying/doing before a draft.
Hickory High
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I don't even know what I said or didn't say, but I always knew he was a top 10 talent, especially in this year's weak draft. Never thought he'd go late.
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The cynic in me wonders if the age thing was thrown out there by some team just as some smoke. You just can't seem to trust what teams are saying/doing before a draft.
Probably. Ulterior motives abound when any info is put out the public space
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Rumor floating that okc floating Westbrook for Thon straight up...
Deputy Travis Junior
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Rumor floating that okc floating Westbrook for Thon straight up...


Paint fumes are a hell of a drug.
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Most of those Sudanese refugee kids don't have any idea how old they are.
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Rumor floating that okc floating Westbrook for Thon straight up...


You completely made that up. Not only is it completely stupid, but it would also guarantee KD goes to San Antonio (or wherever else) this summer. Westbrook is OKC's hope to keep KD
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http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/24/nba-draft-team-grades-lakers-bucks-76ers-celtics-timberwolves

SI folks are giving the Bucks an 'F' grade for picking Maker with the 10th pick.

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As inexplicable as the Papagiannis pick was, the Thon Maker pick was worse. The Kings are always going to be the Kings as long as Vlade and Vivek are in charge, but the Bucks could actually be good. You can't just throw away top10 picks like they're nothing.

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There's a way to see Maker as a case of the Bucks doubling down on the weirdness of their roster and putting together the most sciencefiction lineup possible, and maybe that's how it'll play out, but I don't see it. Maker should have been a second rounder, not a top 10 pick. He has raw tools, but not many skills, and this week there were allegations that he's three years older than he claims. These are not good signs. Really, almost every move Milwaukee's made since drafting Giannis and Jabaritrading for MCW, signing Greg Monroe, trading for Grievis Vasquez, inexplicably drafting Rashad Vaughnhas been a failure. Worse, most of these moves were clearly bad ideas at the time.

Mostly, it bums me out because Giannis is absolutely for real, and Milwaukee should be one of the most entertaining teams in the league. But whoever is running things is screwing this up.



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That will be a funny article to bring up in 4-5 years when he's a great player.
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That will be a funny article to bring up in 4-5 years when he's a great player.
It seems like the analysts knock on the pick is that they feel Maker is not a guy who will be ready to do much for at least a few years. They seem him as a long-term project.

Even if 5 years from now he is a good player, if he isn't playing for the Bucks by that point then depending on what they got for him in return, it still might be considered in hind-site a 'bust' pick by Milwaukee. Who knows.
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That will be a funny article to bring up in 4-5 years when he's a great player.


If he's anything less than an All-Star quality by year 3 then he's a waste of a lottery pick. Lottery picks aren't supposed to be used on 5 year project maybes. See also Swift, Stromile
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That's not a "one size fits all" rule though. This draft class was pretty poor. Not a lot of options.
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That will be a funny article to bring up in 4-5 years when he's a great player.
It seems like the analysts knock on the pick is that they feel Maker is not a guy who will be ready to do much for at least a few years. They seem him as a long-term project.

Even if 5 years from now he is a good player, if he isn't playing for the Bucks by that point then depending on what they got for him in return, it still might be considered in hind-site a 'bust' pick by Milwaukee. Who knows.
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As long as he shows promise by year 3 and isn't a knucklehead (which it appears he's not), he'll get a 4th year from Milwaukee. And then Milwaukee almost assuredly would match any offers after year 4, so I'd expect him to be a Buck if he's good.
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That's not a "one size fits all" rule though. This draft class was pretty poor. Not a lot of options.


So we should bank on the 10th pick in a poor draft class becoming a league mvp?
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Reddit thread detailing how Thon could possibly be 21-23. Claims he graduated HS in Australia in 2010
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Reddit thread detailing how Thon could possibly be 21-23. Claims he graduated HS in Australia in 2010

If that's all true (and it looks like it very well is), it changes everything. Maybe that's why his handler wanted Thon to avoid college so bad: he knew colleges would figure that out during enrollment stuff.

Even bigger conspiracy: maybe he NBA knew about this? Would explain why they just decided to overlook their age requirement that they strictly enforce.
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Even bigger conspiracy: maybe he NBA knew about this? Would explain why they just decided to overlook their age requirement that they strictly enforce.
that's a great angle
Method Man
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Did Thon commit statutory rape???
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I heard he's already past his prime.
Hickory High
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Thon just went from "sky is the limit" potential to "he better figure it out quick" potential.
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Relax, sabonis had a late start too and he still got in some good seasons.
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Thon just went from "sky is the limit" potential to "he better figure it out quick" potential.
So are you recanting on the certain MVP prediction?
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Thon just went from "sky is the limit" potential to "he better figure it out quick" potential.
So are you recanting on the certain MVP prediction?

I mean, of course.
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So Mr. Maker's first season is over. Averaged a paltry 4/2 over the regular season, but improved toward the end and then averaged 6.6/3.4 during the playoffs. I'll admit that his 3 point shooting was a lot better than I expected it to be (38% during the regular season, though with very limited volume).

I don't know if he's on the "All-Star within a few years" track, but he at least showed some potential.
Method Man
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He's ok guys. Went from HS cheese dick ball to NBA. I don't think he's an MVP candidate but won't write him off yet.
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Method Man said:

He's ok guys. Went from HS cheese dick ball to NBA. I don't think he's an MVP candidate but won't write him off yet.


It is *probably* safe to write him off as a future NBA MVP candidate and Kevin Durant-ish as some predicted in this thread....if only Lavar Ball had been his dad though and raised him...what could have been...
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Soo Ron Baker actually did have a better season
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Averaging 5/3/1 as a "20" year old

Durant put up 25/7/3 at the same age
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Nice bump. Should be bumped every April.
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Might be older than 20.
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Double Diamond said:

Might be older than 20.

Dynamite drop in
Deputy Travis Junior
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I love this thread. Thon is an MVP caliber player and Giannis is not.
 
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