B

Coaching = D; whining = A+

I was very happy with the non-conference schedule. I liked the fact Turge rotated players and would have the team look to score. I was disappointed in the melt down in Tucson, and thought he could restore some confidence. I would grade him A+, for winning the NIT, blowing teams out and playing the bench. 15-1 is an A+ anyway you look at it. I don't think there is anyone that would be disappointed with that start to the season.

I would grade the conference schedule as a C-. We had horrible losses to Baylor, OSU, Nebraska at home that are inexcusable. The KSU game was close until the 8 minute mark and then we get blown out.

Overall, I am disappointed because my expectation were high based on being spoiled by the intensity and high performance of the BCG teams.

Overall right now, I would grade him as a C, but he can get extra credit and raise his grade with his teams performance this week and hopefully in the NCAA tournament.

We will have to wait and see on his final grade.

Rangers Lead the Way, NSDQ

D at best, for now.

F, if we fail to get the dance( like if we lose to ISU in the tourney and fail to get the invite)

Let see, if MT can improve in the tourney and the dance.

D+ for now.

B

Who expected to win the Big XII with a new coach in a new system after losing the best player we ever had? Turge did a good job

Answer: Nobody

But nobody expected him to finish 6th in conference and take the consensus #3 team to and 8-8 record either.

Good ??? I guess we can finally figure out how to rationalize Melvin's 0-16 conference record and dumb the standards down to make it acceptable.

C- Coach
A Talent on Team

D
F if we dont make the tourney

B-

I think that he did a solid job. Not great, but solid. The Big 12 is alot tougher this season than last + No Acie has had alot to do with our record, not just Turgeon. For his first year, Turge is still ok by me.

B, anytime you get 20+ wins you have to get some kind of credit.

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Said it all along.
NOT making the tourney is a resounding F

Not if you're loading up on creampuffs. I can coach a good 4A team to 20 wins against the crap we played in OOC play.

C-

Make the tourney = C
Don't make the tourney = F

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I think what you mean is:

B-

He has done what he was supposed to do. He has gotten this team to the Big Dance.

If we stayed in the top 25, I would have given him an A-.

Remember, he is running a motion offense with personnel that are designed for the high-low system. Of course, everyone wants to say that if TKC was here, we would only have two losses. Well of course we would, he would be running his offense with personnel designed for that system.

Turgeon is trying to install his offense. There have been ups and downs, but he has kept the defense true to form. No one scored eighty on us in regulation.

Once Turge gets his types of players in, I expect the offense will be consistent.

C+

C- overall.

F if we miss the tourney.

You can't really grade a regular season until you know where that regular season got you. This is really a stupid thread.

If we make the tournament, he achieved the same things Gillespie achieved here without an All-American PG and a healthy Joe Jones. We certainly wouldn't give a bad grade to Gillespie's past two regular seasons...if we don't make the tournament, well, that's a failure by Turge and the team.

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B-

B- new coach bringing in a new system and running that system using players brought in for a different type of system and still getting 20 wins has to be seen as a very good year. Look at what BCG did at the first part of the year at Kentucky. He was apparently lucky enough at the end of the season to get his players to fully buy into his system and it paid off. If the players here would just trust what the coach is saying I think they will get more than one win in the conf. tourney and the same at the dance. After that the sky is the limit.

I season is incomplete

F.

D

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Wow

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While likely true, it's far from certain. If we lose game 1 in the B12 tourney our situation is tenuous at best. We could be on the outside looking in depending on what goes on among other teams at the bottom of the selection committee's list.

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That, my friend, is a coaching error. You can't change the personnel but you can adapt your coaching to match the personnel. That's what good coaches do. Coach K, which so many people like to use as an example of how the first 3 yrs CAN go, is famous for making adaptations to adjust to the strengths of his players. He didn't run the same offense when he had great big men as he runs now without great big men.

I'll give him a C...average job. Hopefully he'll be able to recruit some better athletes and coach them up.

That was the big take-away for me against KU. They out-athleted us at every position, save the Sloan/Collins match-up which I judge as a push athletically.

KU is hardly a fair comparison for finishing sixth in conference. They have near-NBA talent and more depth than a lower tier NBA team. Talent-wise they are head and shoulders above tu. I believe tu is better coached (and Barnes dresses better).

Turgeon had very good talent. Not great but very good. He did almost nothing to maximize their value. The jury is still out until the dance card is announced, but this is hardly a 3.0-'n-go coaching job.

Compared to BFG: C
Compared to all other A&M men's basketball coaches : A

It's pretty obvious that Turge's teams are going to play "softer" and more inconsistently than BFG's, regardless of talent. I enjoyed that "brief shining moment" that was BFG-ball at A&M. I hope everyone else did too; we won't see anything like it again with Turge at the helm. We could have been fantastic. Now we'll just be merely good.

B

C- (if selected to the Big Dance)

F (if NIT)

400 coaches in American can do better, no matter what

B

We don't have the third best talent in the Big 12.

C average - started season with a lot of B's but ended with too many D's.

The Cox-McFerrin center was not bankrolled with regression to irrelevance in mind.

Saturday Sixpack ticket packages weren't bought up in bunches by people hoping that we'd have a Big XII run that was successful only in comparison to the Davis/Barone/Melvin years of wandering through the desert.

After three years of Gillispie, long-suffering Aggie Basketball fans caught a glimpse of the Promised Land.

If The Guy That Coaches After Gillispie doesn't lead A&M back into the NCAA Tournament with some regularity over the next several years, then Byrne has hired The Wrong Guy.

It's too early to tell. But the early returns leave MUCH to be desired.

Yes, we are missing the best player ever to suit up in an A&M basketball uniform, the all-import point guard straw that stirs the drink in college hoops.

Going into 2005-06, the Ags had lost the highest NBA draft pick in school history (to that point). Remind me... did that roster end up getting better or worse?

For every failure there is a ready excuse. For every success that same excuse was overcome.

The pieces were there for a return trip to the NCAA Tournament. After this regular season, that goal is a big, fat "IF".

Coach Turgeon and his staff:
>> Pre-conference: B (Won the preseason NIT, a bunch of home games over middling-to-decent comp, saw a negative 30-point swing on the road to blow a big lead to a down Arizona program in only road game... which was telling.)
>> Conference: D (Yes, this is tied for the 3rd best finish ever for A&M in the Big XII. If you are willing to drop the context of where we have just been and what returned on this roster, which includes the top rated recruit in the state of Texas, you can blow sunshine. If this is success, then get ready for a half-empty Reed Arena in conference play in the coming years.)

Overall: D+