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In reply to FriendlyAg • 9:06p, 11/16/22
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Closed cell foam 6" minimum on all walls and ceiling. Make sure no air envelope leaks

5/8" green board all around at minimum. You'll want a little humidity in there

Insulation underfloor. Lots of heat soak from your slab if you're in TX.

Plan for lighting but also add plugs as you'll probably change once built and you start looking at lighting once complete.

Get a high quality split cooling unit.
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6:44p, 11/17/22
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Happy Beaujolais Nouveau day!


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8:40p, 11/17/22
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Wine shipping season has begun. I didn't order many 2020 Cali wines so the reallocated funds are bringing in a ton of Bordeaux and Champagnes. With some aged wines and current releases, I probably have enough French wines now to last the rest of my life.
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1:33p, 11/24/22
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Happy Thanksgiving wine thread. It's a shame that Gewurtztraminer doesn't get more love. IMO it's a better pairing than Pinot Noir with a traditional meal.


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8:49p, 11/25/22
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2018 William & Mary Shifflet Ranch Proprietary Red.

I REALLY like this wine. 60/40 Merlot/CF. Napa does the Right Bank and does it right. A smidge more oak than I'd prefer, but otherwise just stellar.
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In reply to cecil77 • 5:46p, 11/30/22
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cecil77 said:
2018 William & Mary Shifflet Ranch Proprietary Red.

I REALLY like this wine. 60/40 Merlot/CF. Napa does the Right Bank and does it right. A smidge more oak than I'd prefer, but otherwise just stellar.


You inspired me to pull the cork.
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In reply to JCA1 • 7:46p, 11/30/22
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7:58p, 11/30/22
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Tasty.
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8:12a, 12/5/22
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Birthday week last week. Not a bad wine week...
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In reply to cecil77 • 1:51p, 12/5/22
damn, quite the range in ages there.

how was that champagne? '12 ready to go with any secondary flavors, yet?
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1:54p, 12/5/22
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It was very good. TBH, we opened it mid afternoon and honestly didn't pay much attention to but it still seemed mostly fresh to me. I'm also not the most experience bubbles taster.
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In reply to bularry • 2:20p, 12/5/22
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There will be very little secondary notes in that bottle right now. It'll be fresh with just a little mellowing. The 08's are just starting to show secondary notes.
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In reply to cecil77 • 2:55p, 12/5/22
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So I take it you like Bordeaux?
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4:30p, 12/5/22
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Well, this past summer, I achieved my Certified Specialist of Wine, and I've started a wine blog.

The Everyday Winers

Check it out, please, when you have a chance and let me know what you think.
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In reply to aggiejumper • 5:41p, 12/5/22
aggiejumper said:
There will be very little secondary notes in that bottle right now. It'll be fresh with just a little mellowing. The 08's are just starting to show secondary notes.
makes sense for the classic houses, just wondering how a vintage no dosage was doing....
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In reply to bularry • 6:01p, 12/5/22
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That's what I was talking about. Non dose growers age in a unique way and not always good/better. Some sugar is needed to balance the acid over long term.
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7:42p, 12/5/22
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The 82 Las Cases and 85 Mouton were both really good, not just "good for their age". Some old time Bordeaux funk too about 30 minutes to dissipate from the Mouton, and was then rich, still a touch of fruit and substantial tannin. Very layered and complex.

The Las Cases was good from the beginning. It's nose was a bit brighter and more pleasing, but was not quite as concentrated or complex, but we're talking shaving with a pretty fine edge here.
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In reply to cecil77 • 8:00p, 12/5/22
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Any recs for readily available Bordeaux in the sub-$50
range that has a good amount of barnyard funk? I've been buying a few random bottles here and there but haven't found anything that hits the barnyard notes.
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In reply to jh0400 • 8:08p, 12/5/22
Why do you hate yourself?
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In reply to jh0400 • 10:16p, 12/5/22
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jh0400 said:
Any recs for readily available Bordeaux in the sub-$50
range that has a good amount of barnyard funk? I've been buying a few random bottles here and there but haven't found anything that hits the barnyard notes.

I'll think about it, but with the prevalence of MOX in Bordeaux now, there's just not nearly as much of it anymore.
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In reply to jh0400 • 9:24a, 12/6/22
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jh0400 said:
If you're going to be in Montalcino you can get really good Brunello and Brunello Riserva for well under $200 per bottle.


I bought this one for my birthday in a few weeks.


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In reply to cecil77 • 1:19p, 12/6/22
cecil77 said:
jh0400 said:
Any recs for readily available Bordeaux in the sub-$50
range that has a good amount of barnyard funk? I've been buying a few random bottles here and there but haven't found anything that hits the barnyard notes.

I'll think about it, but with the prevalence of MOX in Bordeaux now, there's just not nearly as much of it anymore.
I've been told that MOX is back out of fad to use, at least at a large number of houses
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In reply to aggiejumper • 1:20p, 12/6/22
aggiejumper said:
That's what I was talking about. Non dose growers age in a unique way and not always good/better. Some sugar is needed to balance the acid over long term.
interesting...have to think about that
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In reply to bularry • 1:51p, 12/6/22
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bularry said:
cecil77 said:
jh0400 said:
Any recs for readily available Bordeaux in the sub-$50
range that has a good amount of barnyard funk? I've been buying a few random bottles here and there but haven't found anything that hits the barnyard notes.

I'll think about it, but with the prevalence of MOX in Bordeaux now, there's just not nearly as much of it anymore.
I've been told that MOX is back out of fad to use, at least at a large number of houses

Interesting. Hadn't heard that yet. I think it's use has been modified from the massive tank use in the past. Very affordable to do in barrel now with much more control. I could see it being dialed back stylistically though. Certainly more modest use than in the recent past may be a good thing.

We see it as a very useful thing, used properly and judiciously when it can benefit the wine.
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4:21p, 12/6/22
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I'm developing more of a taste for dryer red wines, and I'm finding better luck with French reds. Looking for recommendations in the $40-100 range that are available through distribution (I'm in Frisco).

Some that I just bought based on reviews only but haven't tried yet:

Chateau Gloria St Julien, 2018

Chateau Monbousquet St Emilion, 2016

Chateau Gloria St Julien, 2015

La Croix Ducru Beaucaillou , 2016

Other suggestions? Thanks!
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In reply to cecil77 • 5:23p, 12/6/22
I don't know much, I'm not Bordeaux wise, but had a relatively well informed wine nerd say something along those lines to me. but so many houses and techniques...hard to say
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10:32a, 12/12/22
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This begins in a few minutes so I noticed it a little late.

TAMU webinar on MOX. Sponsored by Enartis.

One of the presenters is Spencer Gatlin who is now our primary winemaker w/ his dad (Dan) overseeing everything.

https://tamu.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_bo7pDadQTJWH7s5pphF6wQ

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In reply to greenband • 11:08a, 12/12/22
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Here's some right bank we enjoy in that price range.

St Emilion
Chteau Fleur Cardinale
Chteau Villemaurine
Ch Beau-Sejour Becot
Ch Tour St. Christophe
Ch Haut Brisson
Ch Bellefont-Belcier

Pomerol
Ch La Patache


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In reply to cecil77 • 11:14a, 12/12/22
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cecil77 said:
Here's some right bank we enjoy in that price range.

St Emilion
Chteau Fleur Cardinale
Chteau Villemaurine
Ch Beau-Sejour Becot
Ch Tour St. Christophe
Ch Haut Brisson
Ch Bellefont-Belcier

Pomerol
Ch La Patache




Thanks - I'll stock up soon!
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9:40p, 12/15/22
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Wife's birthday wines:

2010 Peter Michael Pinot Noir Clos du Ciel
1997 Ridge Monte Bello - just phenomenal, still had tons of life left
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5:52p, 12/18/22
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Skiing wine…

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7:27p, 12/22/22
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Cheers wine thread! The holiday weekend starting now. I'm a big fan of Stonestreet Chardonnays (and wines in general)

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9:16p, 12/22/22
This was $19 and pretty damn good. The person I buy this from said. "Yup. One of my sleepers I can only sell because my other people don't understand Tuscany."
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9:40p, 12/28/22
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First time trying an Arneis tonight. We liked it and wish that we'd run across it when we visited the Piedmont a few years ago.


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In reply to jh0400 • 8:36a, 12/29/22
thought it was very common in Piemonte? surprised you missed it. I'm a fan when done well, sometimes it comes across to me as very heavy and uninteresting, so I don't buy it often since I'm usually making a guess.
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